How can the grace of God be resisted by some yet received by others?

[MennoSota]

John 6:37
All that the Father gives Me

will come to Me,

and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

What is it about "All that the Father gives me" that people don't understand?

It is wonderfully joyful to know the Father chooses and gives them to the Son.

All that God chooses absolutely come to Jesus and the Son never tosses them away.

It is great to read God's promises to his elect. Can I get an Amen!

 

[EmSw]

John 6:37
All that the Father gives Me

will come to Me,

and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

What is it about "All that the Father gives me" that people don't understand?

It is wonderfully joyful to know the Father chooses and gives them to the Son.

All that God chooses absolutely come to Jesus and the Son never tosses them away.

It is great to read God's promises to his elect. Can I get an Amen!

But you said you didn't 'come' to Jesus, so God didn't give you to Him.

 

[ToBeLoved]

But you said you didn't 'come' to Jesus, so God didn't give you to Him.

Yup. Another good point.

The confusion is real.

 

[MennoSota]

It's interesting when people stop reading what John 3:37 says.

The Father (God) gives to the Son (God).

After that, the ones chosen by God the Father, come to the Son.

Yes, after God chose me, I came to follow Yeshua.

God chose me. I come to Yeshua after that.

It is the only way the Bible describes it. God makes dead people come alive then they follow Yeshua.

I love God's ways and His word. John 3:37 is a great verse. I am very glad the Ew and TBL shared it for us.

 

[bottomofsandal]

It's interesting when people stop reading what John 3:37 says.

The Father (God) gives to the Son (God).

After that, the ones chosen by God the Father, come to the Son.

Yes, after God chose me, I came to follow Yeshua.

God chose me. I come to Yeshua after that.

It is the only way the Bible describes it. God makes dead people come alive then they follow Yeshua.

I love God's ways and His word. John 3:37 is a great verse. I am very glad the Ew and TBL shared it for us.

Amen!

 

[bottomofsandal]

Ew & TBL both argue that dead people come to God.

 

[EmSw]

It's interesting when people stop reading what John 3:37 says.

The Father (God) gives to the Son (God).

After that, the ones chosen by God the Father, come to the Son.

Yes, after God chose me, I came to follow Yeshua.

God chose me. I come to Yeshua after that.

It is the only way the Bible describes it. God makes dead people come alive then they follow Yeshua.

I love God's ways and His word. John 3:37 is a great verse. I am very glad the Ew and TBL shared it for us.

You said you DIDN'T 'come' to Jesus. Which is it?

Jesus said you 'come' to Him to have life. How is it you by-passed what Jesus said?

 

[MennoSota]

You said you DIDN'T 'come' to Jesus. Which is it?

Jesus said you 'come' to Him to have life. How is it you by-passed what Jesus said?

I answered.

God chose. God made me alive. I follow Yeshua.

That is what John 3:37 says. Thanks for sharing a great verse that makes my point for me.

I can't help you if you cannot follow that sequence outlined in the Bible.

God choses.
God makes us alive.
We respond and follow Yeshua.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

..moved..

 

[EmSw]

Again, no evidence ?
Perhaps there's a difficulty in the software or english perception that the rest of us cannot see ?

Lemonade, read the sign, lemonade. You are the one acting difficult.

Here is his post #1297 -

Many passages have been shared by those who let God speak about choosing His children. There is nothing left to be said. God is good and His word is clear. I am at peace. God has redeemed me, a sinner who never willfully came to Him. No, God came to me and saved me. I am eternally grateful.

Any more false accusations?

 

[EmSw]

I answered.

God chose. God made me alive. I follow Yeshua.

That is what John 3:37 says. Thanks for sharing a great verse that makes my point for me.

I can't help you if you cannot follow that sequence outlined in the Bible.

God choses.
God makes us alive.
We respond and follow Yeshua.

You have it wrong and you know it.

John 6:45
It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard (1) and learned (2) from the Father comes to Me (3).

You hear and learn first, then 'come' to Him for life.

I've already given you the meaning for 'learn', but I'm sure you trampled it underfoot by now.

 

[MennoSota]

You have it wrong and you know it.

John 6:45
It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Therefore everyone who has heard (1) and learned (2) from the Father comes to Me (3).

You hear and learn first, then 'come' to Him for life.

I've already given you the meaning for 'learn', but I'm sure you trampled it underfoot by now.

The verse YOU shared says God chooses and gives them to the Son, then we follow. It is right in the verse you quoted. Now you say that the verse is stating things backward. I cannot help you if you claim God's word is backward.


John 6:37-39
[37]However, those the Father has given me will come to me, and I will never reject them.
[38]For I have come down from heaven to do the will of God who sent me, not to do my own will.
[39]And this is the will of God, that I should not lose even one of all those he has given me, but that I should raise them up at the last day.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

..moved..

 

[MennoSota]

QUOTE="EmSw, post: 70262005, member: 351959"]Lemonade, read the sign, lemonade. You are the one acting difficult.

Here is his post #1297 -

Many passages have been shared by those who let God speak about choosing His children. There is nothing left to be said. God is good and His word is clear. I am at peace. God has redeemed me, a sinner who never willfully came to Him. No, God came to me and saved me. I am eternally grateful.

Any more false accusations? QUOTE
Yes, I noted you just made some more.
BEFORE YHWH made PROVISIONS and TOOK ACTION for our SALVATION,
for sinners opposed to HIM,
WE NEVER WILLFULLY CAME TO HIM ! NONE OF US. We all were HIS enemy !
This includes you.
He never posted that he is not following Y'SHUA.
He gave all glory and thanks and praise for his salvation to YHWH or Y'SHUA.
Every post he made indicated he is following Y'SHUA,
according to YHWH'S WORD, and in all things he is only
giving glory to YHWH and to Y'SHUA.

Your posts were for weeks accusatory, and still are, and without evidence still, and not giving glory to YHWH nor to Y'SHUA nor based in YHWH's WORD .



QUOTE="MennoSota, post: 70261302, member: 382998"]Hmmm...
who was it that chose the ones who who respond to Jesus?
Anybody willing to answer that question?
It's right in the verse, in case you can't figure it out.
What comes first, the response to Jesus or the Father's choice? Hmmm...
Once again, I am grateful to God for his gracious choice of me, a sinner. I run to Yeshua with a thankful heart.
I love the Bible and John 3:37 for clearly presenting God's work first and then my response second.
God is good. QUOTE

It should be noted, I meant John 6:37, not John 3:37. There is no 37th verse in John 3.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

..moved..

 

[EmSw]

Yes, I noted you just made some more.
BEFORE YHWH made PROVISIONS and TOOK ACTION for our SALVATION,
for sinners opposed to HIM,
WE NEVER WILLFULLY CAME TO HIM ! NONE OF US. We all were HIS enemy !
This includes you.
He never posted that he is not following Y'SHUA.
He gave all glory and thanks and praise for his salvation to YHWH or Y'SHUA.
Every post he made indicated he is following Y'SHUA,
according to YHWH'S WORD, and in all things he is only
giving glory to YHWH and to Y'SHUA.

Your posts were for weeks accusatory, and still are, and without evidence still, and not giving glory to YHWH nor to Y'SHUA nor based in YHWH's WORD .

And you turn right around and start accusing me. I see how you are.

I willfully 'came' to Him in order to have life. Why does that bother you? If you are unwilling to 'come' to Him, you will not have life. For your information, that is God's word.

How does one 'come' to Him if not willingly? How does one have life if they are unwilling to 'come' to Him?

Have you willingly 'come' to Him in order to have life? Yes or No!

 

[EmSw]

The verse YOU shared says God chooses and gives them to the Son, then we follow. It is right in the verse you quoted. Now you say that the verse is stating things backward. I cannot help you if you claim God's word is backward.


John 6:37-39
[37]However, those the Father has given me will come to me, and I will never reject them.
[38]For I have come down from heaven to do the will of God who sent me, not to do my own will.
[39]And this is the will of God, that I should not lose even one of all those he has given me, but that I should raise them up at the last day.

Where does it say 'God chooses'?

 

[MennoSota]

Where does it say 'those God chooses'?

How does the Father give them to Yeshua if God did not choose them? Choice is obviously implied in the verse.

I know you claim to have chosen to follow God and you truly believe it. You can continue to believe that if you want. You just can't get it from John 6:37. John 6:37 presents God's choice first before you ever follow. Give God His due praise in choosing you who, like me, were never worthy of His gracious choice, yet He chose you anyway.

 

[ToBeLoved]

I answered.

God chose. God made me alive. I follow Yeshua.

That is what John 3:37 says. Thanks for sharing a great verse that makes my point for me.

I can't help you if you cannot follow that sequence outlined in the Bible.

God choses.
God makes us alive.
We respond and follow Yeshua.

You really can't make the point that you follow the Bible if your not listing out supporting BIBLE verses in your post. What you are really doing is sharing your opinion

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

..moved..