The evidence for evolution for Kenny'sID thread

[amariselle]

I will be short and concise.

You are entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.

As are you, as are we all. What's your point?

 

[USincognito]

Alright, understood.

But now, since you clearly equate personal thoughts on matters with "conspiracy theories," I hope I don't see you sharing any of your own thoughts on anything either, because that would just be hypocritical.

Spare me the meta debate. Either address the OP and 5 subsequent posts or go find another thread to play in.

 

[Loudmouth]

Did that already.

In which post did you address the evidence surrounding sonic hedgehog?

 

[amariselle]

Spare me the meta debate. Either address the OP and 5 subsequent posts or go find another thread to play in.

Since you came into this conversation late, perhaps you should "spare" me your accusations and go back and read where I DiD address the OP and subsequent posts.

Perhaps if you actually did so, you wouldn't end up making false accusations. Just a thought.

 

[Loudmouth]

Since you came into this conversation late, perhaps you should "spare" me your accusations and go back and read where I DiD address the OP and subsequent posts.

Where did you discuss sonic hedgehog?

 

[amariselle]

Then perhaps you're in over your head on the subject and might want to do some reading first.

I've provided evidence for evolution in the OP and 5 subsequent posts. Why don't you address that content. As far as the image that posted, if the progression of 15 skulls is "far too fragmentary" then you just being willfully blind.

Why so coy? Don't allude. Give us actual examples.

Again, reading an entire conversation rather than posting blind, might help you understand more fully what I'm actually referring to.

 

[USincognito]

Micro-evolution does not involve new genetic information, for macro-evolution to be possible, new genetic information must be somehow added.

Clearly you didn't read my OP then. No genes were lost when whales lost their hind legs. They still have the gene package for making them.

And "new information" comes about from mutations. Did you take any of the links about genome duplication in agnathans and how that lead to a variety of globin genes in modern vertebrates.

 

[Loudmouth]

Again, reading an entire conversation rather than posting blind, might help you understand more fully what I'm actually referring to.

In which post did you discuss sonic hedgehog?

 

[amariselle]

Please stop lying. You addressed nothing in my OP or any subsequent post on the first page.

I don't know who you think you're fooling with this sort of garbage. Now address the content of the posts from the first page or go find another thread to play around in.

Oh, right....I forgot, you started this thread with the intention of baiting a certain member of this forum and disputing his beliefs. I came here to support a fellow Christian who was being attacked and singled out. My apologies.

I'll just be leaving now so you can continue playing games with people's faith.

Bye.

 

[USincognito]

Like the frauds and fakes that HAVE been discovered, unfortunately for them.

Since you don't seem able to address the posts on the fist page, perhaps you could list this supposed "frauds and fakes".

 

[Loudmouth]

Oh, right....I forgot, you started this thread with the intention of baiting a certain member of this forum and disputing his beliefs. I came here to support a fellow Christian who was being attacked and singled out. My apologies.

I'll just be leaving now so you can continue playing games with people's faith.

Bye.

A frank admission that the facts of science contradict creationism.

 

[amariselle]

A frank admission that the facts of science contradict creationism.

Look at the title of this thread. That says everything anyone needs to know.

 

[amariselle]

Since you don't seem able to address the posts on the fist page, perhaps you could list this supposed "frauds and fakes".

I told you why I came here. But good job trying to discredit someone's faith by starting a thread just to single them out personally.

I think you failed by the way, you didn't convince him that you're right and he's wrong, like it seems you were hoping you would.

 

[Astrophile]

Not evolution in general, the kind of evolution that claims God didn't create anything, but that we are the result of random chance. That view does in fact "take God out of creation," and it denies His word.

everything in our world was created with a purpose by a loving and creative God

When a child is born of rape or as a result of what is crudely called a one-night stand, is that the result of random chance or is it done for a purpose by a loving God? When Maria Schicklgruber conceived and gave birth to a child (later called Alois Hitler) by an unknown man, was that random chance, or was it done for a purpose by a loving God? When Alois Hitler married Klara Pölzl and they had a son named Adolf, was that random chance, or was it done for a purpose by a loving God?

 

[USincognito]

Macro and micro evolution are not the same thing. Micro evolution involves variations WITHIN a particular species, macro-evolution claims that genetic information can be added to DNA and that one species can therefore become and entirely different species.

Please give us a hypothetical example of the part on bold. Far too often Creationists think evolution is like Pokemon or an iguana hatching a clutch of puppies which actually would falsify evolution.

 

[amariselle]

Please give us a hypothetical example of the part on bold. Far too often Creationists think evolution is like Pokemon or an iguana hatching a clutch of puppies which actually would falsify evolution.

No thank you. You reminded me why you really started this thread.

I thank you for your honesty in that, and as such I have no further need to continue.

However, just before I go...I really have no idea what you mean by that absurd analogy. It's not how I view evolution in any case.

But oh well. You failed to convince me that I'm wrong to believe God created the world, and it seems you failed to convince the member this thread was directed at too.

What you DID convince me of is some people really are here only to discredit the faith of Christians.

Have a nice night.

 

[USincognito]

Since you came into this conversation late, perhaps you should "spare" me your accusations and go back and read where I DiD address the OP and subsequent posts.

Perhaps if you actually did so, you wouldn't end up making false accusations. Just a thought.

You mean my thread that I read over before starting to reply? My thread where neither you nor Kenny have addressed the evidence for evolution I posted?

Again, reading an entire conversation rather than posting blind, might help you understand more fully what I'm actually referring to.

I don't care what you're actually referring to. I'm talking about my thread and the subject of my thread - which is six posts presenting evolution, none of which have been addressed by any of the Creationists thus far. As Loudmouth asked you several times, did you address Sonic Hedgehog?

Oh, right....I forgot, you started this thread with the intention of baiting a certain member of this forum and disputing his beliefs. I came here to support a fellow Christian who was being attacked and singled out. My apologies.

I'll just be leaving now so you can continue playing games with people's faith.

Please stop lying about me. The motivation to which you have ascribed the purpose of this thread is a figment of your imagination. Here is the real reason for it. In my thread about the origin of life and evolution Kenny was continually going off topic so I offered to start a new thread where we could discuss the evidence for evolution.
http://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-origin-of-life-and-evolution.7953819/page-9#post-69813809
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1)Since you are already aware you can't prove evolution true, why even bother with the question in the OP?

Off topic. If you would like to start a thread about the evidence for evolution, feel free to do so.

4)If so, am I to take form all this, there is essentially no way to prove evolution true since the very science that appears to be exactly what folks are using to convince us, is not valid proof? Right?

5)Or is there a way of proving evolution true, without proving it? And if so, what is that?

Sorry, but your shtick is old and tired. If you'd like to discuss the evidence for evolution, we can do so in an different thread.

In fact I'll start a thread and we'll see if you're sincere in actually wanting to discuss the evidence.
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So, can we stop with the meta debate and the lies impugning my character and motivations and finally, actually have you address the evidence for evolution?

 

[bhsmte]

As are you, as are we all. What's your point?

My point was in the words I wrote.

 

[bhsmte]

This has become, the cognitive dissonance thread.

 

[USincognito]

Look at the title of this thread. That says everything anyone needs to know.

The title of this thread is "evidence for evolution". The content of the first five or six posts contain said evidence.