Of course.
What does this have to do with Adam dying physically because he was mortal not because he sinned?
A mortal man does not live forever. Genesis 3:22
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Of course.
What does this have to do with Adam dying physically because he was mortal not because he sinned?
A mortal man does not live forever. Genesis 3:22
Why did Jesus have to die? This is the question posed. Most of us will come back with a programmed response, but who among us have deeply studied this question? I think this question deserves a measured and studied response. If your response is "to save us", please feel free to elaborate specifically what His death is saving us from and how it accomplished that purpose.
Which is exactly why he died. He was never immortal.
No, he died because God in His mercy prevented him from eating from the tree of life, otherwise he would have lived physically forever. Just as scripture clearly tells us.
OK, so I might be repeating what others have said, and my knowledge of Judaism might be rusty, but here goes...Why did Jesus have to die? This is the question posed. Most of us will come back with a programmed response, but who among us have deeply studied this question? I think this question deserves a measured and studied response. If your response is "to save us", please feel free to elaborate specifically what His death is saving us from and how it accomplished that purpose.
Which also proves he was not immortal so he died because he was mortal as I have been saying. Old age killed Adam and that was not caused by sin.
Spiritual death comes through sin, and before Jesus died, he said "It is finished" in regards to the power of sin, being overcome, finished with.
Then Jesus died to engage the power of death, to overcome death, mens' and womens' greatest enemy, a curse that came through Adam and Eve sinning, and Jesus proved victorious in the resurrection. Physical death is defeated!
Paul then asks "death, where is your sting?" Revelations says that those who take part in the first resurrection will have power over death...
Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. Romans 6:9 KJVNo. His Earthly mission was finished.
No again. Physical death continued and still continues today. Jesus did not come to end physical death. God cares about stopping the second death not the first death.
The second death.
Nothing in the Genesis account shows physical death was a result of his sin in fact since he died the day he sinned we know physical death was not the death promised to him to happen that same day. There was no "you will die that day, then you will die hundreds of years later also" as part of his punishment.
Physical death is purely a result of being created mortal. Any human will die whether they are sinless or they have sinned or sinned and were forgiven.
Why did Jesus have to die? This is the question posed. Most of us will come back with a programmed response, but who among us have deeply studied this question? I think this question deserves a measured and studied response. If your response is "to save us", please feel free to elaborate specifically what His death is saving us from and how it accomplished that purpose.
Adam was direct of God, if he remained in grace and never sinned, how long do you think he would have lived?
Death came through sin, remember the words of the apostle Paul. Through one man death reigned. Jesus is the second Adam, who gives life.
Death is a spirit, not merely entropy.
This makes us go back to how to interpret Genesis. Bearing in mind fossils... There is theistic evolution, but then there is also a passage in which God breathes life into Adam personally, and later creates from him a female. To this comes the problem that, chimps and orangutans share 95% or more DNA in common with us.
I don't really understand this either, tbh, bc God could have forgiven debts without the sacrifice of Jesus' life.
He can't just forgive because He is just and holy. Sin must be punished appropriately and that's by a suitable blood sacrifice (lest a person pay for their sins eternally and be cut off from God forever). I recommend you listen to one or more of the sermons I posted in #73.
k, I'll look back at your post. That still doesn't make sense to me. God is God. He can forgive as he chooses.
He is a holy God and cannot abide with sin. He is also just. If He "just forgave" He would not be just. There's a price to be paid for sin. The first sermon I posted is probably my favorite (I can remember the title and main Scriptures five years later) but all of them are excellent and he explains it well. This is really foundational to the gospel. Jesus wouldn't have died if He didn't have to do it in order to redeem us.
I think God can do anything. I think forgiving would be showing grace. Having grace isn't abiding w sin.
This is another q. Why did Jesus ask why he was being forsaken by God?