Thoughts ...

[Noxot]

with the bounds of known Christianity gone there is the infinite of the abyss waiting to spew forth. if the freedom is enlightened then it will go well if it is darkened then there will be problems. no one shall mock God, you reap what you sow.

but this has been the case no matter what

 

[Nym]

And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters"

"And God called the firmament Heaven. "

 

[Nym]

I don't mind being pushed around by authoritarians but I won't support them with money any more. the death of God leads to tyranny and nihilism. a religion that trys to control its fellows has become dead and dry. when there is no more ability for the spirit to be free in God then all you will be left with is a book and a shallow understanding of it. those who quench the spirit open the doors wide for satan to rule their lives.

I really don't know what so many are scared or concerned about. religion makes me sick.

Religion is a strange word, it can be full of light, or full of darkness, or even a mixture of both, according to one's perception of it. It's very similar to the word ideology, but like any word, they are merely containers for what we put in them.

I think the spirit becomes your adversary, because we make him this.

And Jesus answered and said unto them, I will also ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things. The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me. And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then did ye not believe him? But if we shall say, Of men; they feared the people: for all men counted John, that he was a prophet indeed. And they answered and said unto Jesus, We cannot tell. And Jesus answering saith unto them, Neither do I tell you by what authority I do these things.

 

[Nym]

The Bible shows a progressive unveiling of the truth in us, of this one word that is God.

 

[FanthatSpark]

Nym, Jugg, Nox,

The unveiling of the root of a tree AKA creek , stream, river, sea put to dualism of self by self comes as profound . Mayhap , that's the taint Nym? Even the Word uses darkness for explanation (as you guys already know this). Yet, if I love you as I love self then "I" see/hear/perceive the taint of darkness to show me the light hidden in it as expression of light. Make sense that . This may explain some 1 John 4:1

 

[Nym]

Line upon line, precept upon precept.

 

[Nym]

It does appear Sparky, that we go from naked not ashamed, to naked ashamed, then to the embracing of our nakedness, that sets us free from the thought that we were not the seed to begin with.

 

[FredVB]

God is in reality truly unknowable. It can be understood that from what is seen of creation there is one God who is the Creator. Yet we can know God, in the sense of a relationship with God, though knowing nothing of how God would appear to us should God choose to be manifest before us. It would be through the revelation of Yahweh, who is the one God, shown to us, with what is known of God through that, and it is made possible through Christ, indeed one God, as one being, existing though in three offices of function, and this coming through in the revelation that is shown, with unity as the one being without any conflict between them, of the heavenly Father, Christ who is Logos the Word with God who is God in the incarnation as the Son of God, and the Spirit of God.

Sorry to say this ..... but this statement does not make sense to me, if Christ Himself said "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father" ..... how can we not know what He would manifest as before us?

You would know from that what there is that Yahweh God revealed to you. But with God being the unlimited being of reality, apart from the creation, there is much more to God, and that you won't know. There will more revealed to you with you coming to God when you do, and that is possible with you knowing what you can of Jesus. Yet God is not limited to any expectation of how God would be manifested.

 

[jugghead]

You would know from that what there is that Yahweh God revealed to you. But with God being the unlimited being of reality, apart from the creation, there is much more to God, and that you won't know. There will more revealed to you with you coming to God when you do, and that is possible with you knowing what you can of Jesus. Yet God is not limited to any expectation of how God would be manifested.

Have to agree with you with that last statement ..... He is more than a finite mind can imagine

 

[jugghead]

When a word is unknown (darkness) its meaning/definition is the light of that word, God calls the light out of the darkness and by it even the darkness becomes light

 

[Nym]

When a word is unknown (darkness) its meaning/definition is the light of that word, God calls the light out of the darkness and by it even the darkness becomes light

So true, and the process from seed time to harvest becomes shorter and shorter.

 

[jugghead]

So true, and the process from seed time to harvest becomes shorter and shorter.

So that's another meaning of "if He had not shortened the days", that is so cool

I use the example of either giving a person a million dollars or giving them a penny the first day, 2 cents the second day, 4 cents the third day, 8 cents the fourth day, and so on, doubling the amount each day for 31 days, which would they take?

Most would say the million dollars, but when you figure it out, the full amount after 31 days is $10,737,418.24, which I know you know as the word exponentially, which our heavenly Father describes as a double portion.

 

[Nym]

So that's another meaning of "if He had not shortened the days", that is so cool

I use the example of either giving a person a million dollars or giving them a penny the first day, 2 cents the second day, 4 cents the third day, 8 cents the fourth day, and so on, doubling the amount each day for 31 days, which would they take?

Most would say the million dollars, but when you figure it out, the full amount after 31 days is $10,737,418.24, which I know you know as the word exponentially, which our heavenly Father describes as a double portion.

Totally love it.

There seems like there are very few here to talk to, very few that have begun to enter in to the realities of Christ in them.

Carnal minded is taken as such a harsh term, that in nature it becomes quite deceptive as a place where the good Christian can't possibly be; reminds me of the Pharisees when they said, are we blind also? As if pride has remotely anything to do with it. There is so much pretense, so many adversaries, so much polarization.

Interesting enough, there is a place beyond the double portion (the book of Job ends with the portion of one son), a glory before the world was, yet a present truth we live in.

The becoming of one son is part of the process.

 

[jugghead]

Totally love it.

There seems like there are very few here to talk to, very few that have begun to enter in to the realities of Christ in them.

Carnal minded is taken as such a harsh term, that in nature it becomes quite deceptive as a place where the good Christian can't possibly be; reminds me of the Pharisees when they said, are we blind also? As if pride has remotely anything to do with it. There is so much pretense, so many adversaries, so much polarization.

Interesting enough, there is a place beyond the double portion (the book of Job ends with the portion of one son), a glory before the world was, yet a present truth we live in.

The becoming of one son is part of the process.

Couldn't agree more, the comment I made here that you responded to about the meaning of a word being light, I posted it on another board where I knew it fit perfectly, but no response and that is because I do not believe they know what I am speaking of, which I know you do (and others).

And when you speak of harsh terms, I see that as fitting also with the word evil (hurtful) and the word sin (missing the mark), what came to mind about this was how a story gets exaggerated as it takes its coarse from one person to the next, (also generation to generation) which can also happen with words, especially the word grave to a place of eternal torment; now that is a perfect example of the theory of evolution. On the lighter side, a fisherman's tale, the fish in the story was bigger than it actually was in reality, according to the fisherman who caught it.

When the mind doesn't believe what is in the heart, the heart just waits patiently for the mind to come around. The heart already lives in what the mind believes is yet to come.

Love speaking with you and Noxot and Fanthatspark, miss x141, but you remind me of him, often wondered if you were his daughter.

Blessings

 

[Nym]

"The heart already lives in what the mind believes is yet to come."

I like that, it's concise.

If I've not learned anything from my Pop, its that truth is in everything, it is where we find our self. Our testimony is his, and nothing less than it, or it is not ours.

And was that a fish, or a serpent swimming through the seas : )

Tends to make those who have control over the delete button trigger happy; not that I mind though, and actually I don't give it the first thought.

As you, I have nothing to prove.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

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Interesting enough, there is a place beyond the double portion (the book of Job ends with the portion of one son), a glory before the world was, yet a present truth we live in.

The becoming of one son is part of the process.

Hmn I find the end of the book of Job to depict the inheritance of Job's three daughters as the one factor changed, Job 42:15

 

[Nym]

Hmn I find the end of the book of Job to depict the inheritance of Job's three daughters as the one factor changed, Job 42:15

Me as well.

I believe all of it to be a picture of the process in us, the different components reflecting the interaction of what they depict; the sum of it (which is relative) being about the end of Job, who gets knew children (the pivoting door (in reference to what a door is in scripture), the three daughters) and what these numerically represent, of the process in us), but not a new wife.

 

[FanthatSpark]

Hi vessels,

Firstly , big ole 's all around in good cheer as this is to set the mood of the reader to find their place of joy & love .

How does one respond to perfection of a post . Thus, not many people respond . This vessel visits here a lot and wants to convey an uplifting (as far as this format allows ) perception that what we write is not ignored but filled with a truth/truths for selves and God to hash out . The content here-in (from a perception) requires meditation and those that hear need not to respond to light for light gives truth to self . In picture it looks like, the good in you spoke to the same good in me (even in a condemnation to self) and the "willingness" to view me from you (yet the post is in general ) in a truth of my own lacking that produces a further willingness to change.


With that said, certain posts get likes (in an attempt to show it is not ignored) weather it talks to self (and they usually do ) or not for the vessel has already traveled that road yet truth is in the post.

On a personal note this is THE THREAD , where people of all customs, races and religions begin in the journey back through the same Spirit referred to by many names but the same love/Spirit/God for God is love. Also, most here are (borrowed from 2knowhim ) in the third wisdom between self & God as we meditate. So... posts are read yet applied to selves between us and God.

Keep em comen for the content is awesome !!! ,,.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Me as well.

I believe all of it to be a picture of the process in us, the different components reflecting the interaction of what they depict; the sum of it (which is relative) being about the end of Job, who gets knew children (the pivoting door (in reference to what a door is in scripture), the three daughters) and what these numerically represent, of the process in us), but not a new wife.

It is all a process within that experience relates to. The friends of Job are just legalistics trying to play a role during the process of losing self. Has anyone ever heard of another child actually replacing the one who has died? No, they are separate entities altho the former went nameless. The inheritances placed on the latter 3 daughters is in the name Job 42:14 ; they became living stones (with a future) upon which a name is written (does God keep things secret from His friends?) Revelation 2:17 That explains the change in the woman but in effect Job's wife remained the same. Again is in the process of Adam (both male and female) wheither one sins with the lips or not, becoming the new Adam. The pivotal door being for those who are learning in integrity to overcome. Just some thoughts for this morning
ETA the #3 of course is the processed God to whom we have to deal in dividing of soul, spirit and flesh.

 

[Nym]

ETA the #3 of course is the processed God to whom we have to deal in dividing of soul, spirit and flesh.

It's amazing how many forms this comes in.