Why does the earth rotate?

[TLK Valentine]

No. He cannot lie.

Not directly, but He's got spirits who can do it for Him...

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

So how would this fool an astronaut who is in space looking at the earth rotate?

I don't think you can have understood the post if you ask that question.

 

[dad]

Not directly, but He's got spirits who can do it for Him...

God does send strong delusion where it is warranted.

 

[dad]

I don't think you can have understood the post if you ask that question.

Sorry, the universe revolving around the earth is too foolish to take seriously.

 

[TLK Valentine]

God does send strong delusion where it is warranted.

Which is whenever He wants.

Therefore, God can lie. You were wrong.

 

[dad]

Which is whenever He wants.

Therefore, God can lie. You were wrong.

No. He wants truth. If depraved men require delusion because they rejected Truth, one cannot claim God wanted them to wander off to la la delusion land.

 

[TLK Valentine]

No. He wants truth. If depraved men require delusion because they rejected Truth, one cannot claim God wanted them to wander off to la la delusion land.

But they can claim God made them wander off to delusion land...

 

[dad]

But they can claim God made them wander off to delusion land...

I can check His word. No worries.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I can check His word. No worries.

Be sure to check 1 Kings 22:22 and 2 Thessalonians 2:11.

 

[dad]

Be sure to check 1 Kings 22:22 and 2 Thessalonians 2:11.

Been there done that, be sure to ask God for |His spirit to be able to show us what stuff actually means.

 

[Kylie]

Then you have no point from Scripture.

And why would I ever want to make a point from something I consider flawed?

One does not point to other books to determine Scripture is a certain way.

So you just decide your book is true and other books are wrong, despite the fact that anyone can easily make the same argument about their own holy book.

I am not discussing demon writings here. Neither do I deny they exist.

Oh, name calling. And a double standard.

Childish nonsense.

But true. Although I've seen that you often resort to ridicule when you can't propose a rational counter argument.

Don't try to cover up a lack of comprehension.

You've said nothing comprehensible.

Science does that. God simply doesn't expect man to understand all things yet. We consider most of His doings magic.

I take that as an agreement that you are invoking magic.

Sometimes the answer is no.

If God didn't want it to happen (as evidenced by his "no" answer, why did he allow science to allow me to fall pregnant? Or can God's will be subverted by science?

 

[Kylie]

I try not to lean on just the wisdom of man or my own understanding.

Then don't. Lean on the wisdom of the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

Sad.

Yes, it is sad when people are ridiculed for being the people they feel they are.

Well, many people claim that some docs profit from the drug trade. Example..

"

Is Your Doctor Being Paid Off For Prescriptions?

Doctors are making money – LOTS of money for prescribing drugs to you and your family. How much? Check out the detailed infographic below for the shocking statistics. These kickbacks sway their prescribing decisions and any doctor who claims otherwise is in La La Land."

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/is-your-doctor-getting-drug-kickbacks/

First of all, that doesn't strike me as a particularly reliable resource.

Secondly, in Australia, we are free to get a generic medicine instead of the brand name pills.

Often it is. But the system is what it is.

So is this agreeing with my point?

 

[dad]

And why would I ever want to make a point from something I consider flawed?

Because, in lieu of proof from science, nothing else matters!

So you just decide your book is true and other books are wrong, despite the fact that anyone can easily make the same argument about their own holy book.

I have been honest enough to test it and look into it, and can come to no other conclusion but to admit it is oh so true.

But true. Although I've seen that you often resort to ridicule when you can't propose a rational counter argument.

Bet I could if I knew what you were on about.

I take that as an agreement that you are invoking magic.

The ineptness of science to comprehend the great mysteries of creation appears to be magic to them.

If God didn't want it to happen (as evidenced by his "no" answer, why did he allow science to allow me to fall pregnant? Or can God's will be subverted by science?

He works with what is available, even in a sinful world.

 

[dad]

Secondly, in Australia, we are free to get a generic medicine instead of the brand name pills.

Maybe there are exceptions to every rule.

 

[Kylie]

Because, in lieu of proof from science, nothing else matters!

False dichotomy.

I have been honest enough to test it and look into it, and can come to no other conclusion but to admit it is oh so true.

Please describe in detail how you have tested the Bible, including the methods you had in place to eliminate bias and correct for errors.

Bet I could if I knew what you were on about.

Maybe if you sat down and actually studied what I am talking about instead of just trying to find a way to just diss it...

The ineptness of science to comprehend the great mysteries of creation appears to be magic to them.

So magic.

He works with what is available, even in a sinful world.

Yet you claim he once created EVERYTHING that was available, which means the lack of stuff to work with shouldn't ever be a problem, should it. He can just create some more!

 

[Kylie]

Maybe there are exceptions to every rule.

And maybe the USA's healthcare system is seriously messed up.

I can't remember the last time I had to pay to go for a general check up at the doctor.

 

[dad]

False dichotomy.

Not true, what matters is of uttmost relevance.

Please describe in detail how you have tested the Bible, including the methods you had in place to eliminate bias and correct for errors.

I searched the scriptures, and in them found fulfilled prophesy, and a power that works.

Maybe if you sat down and actually studied what I am talking about instead of just trying to find a way to just diss it...

Maybe you are not all right and should learn something.

So magic.

To science, or to cave menit may seem that way.

Yet you claim he once created EVERYTHING that was available, which means the lack of stuff to work with shouldn't ever be a problem, should it. He can just create some more!

One should not take that to mean that He should kill all sinners, and start over. His plan of salvation included sinners.

 

[dad]

And maybe the USA's healthcare system is seriously messed up.

Maybe other countries experience drug companies that influence doctors also?

I can't remember the last time I had to pay to go for a general check up at the doctor.

Your point seems to be that one country is much better than another country. It may be true that in the area of medical care, that your country has some points that are better than the US. Whoopee do. The world itself is sick with sin.

 

[Kylie]

Not true, what matters is of uttmost relevance.

I don't think you know what a false dichotomy is.

I searched the scriptures, and in them found fulfilled prophesy, and a power that works.

There are plenty of people who find fulfilled prophecy in the Koran and other holy texts as well.

And that is not detail.

Please provide specific examples of clear unambiguous prophecy from the Bible as well as verifiable non-Biblical sources to show that the prophecy was fulfilled. Bear in mind that you must also show that the prophecy was written BEFORE the event that allegedly fulfilled it.

Maybe you are not all right and should learn something.

Oh, lovely. More name calling. I don't agree with you, therefore I am not "all right".

To science, or to cave menit may seem that way.

To the only tools that have actually provided provably accurate information about the real world, as well.

One should not take that to mean that He should kill all sinners, and start over. His plan of salvation included sinners.

Irrelevant. My point remains valid. As far as God is concerned, it does not matter what is available and what is unavailable, since he can do ANYTHING.

 

[Kylie]

Maybe other countries experience drug companies that influence doctors also?

Must be. That's why I can buy an asthma inhaler for my daughter here for less than $10 when the same product in the USA is between $30 and $60.

Yeah, drug companies in Australia are definitely influencing the cost of things here. *rolls eyes*

Your point seems to be that one country is much better than another country. It may be true that in the area of medical care, that your country has some points that are better than the US. Whoopee do. The world itself is sick with sin.

Sin is an imaginary illness invented to sell an imaginary cure.