Evolution is Not Atheistic

[Job8]

Most Christians accept Evolution. Notice I say accept rather than believe.

Perhaps that should be "most theologically liberal Christians" accept evolution. And since evolution does not take into account the Creator, it is definitely atheistic.

Evolution does NOT explain how life came from nonlife.

Neither does it affirm that life came from God.

 

[bhsmte]

Perhaps that should be "most theologically liberal Christians" accept evolution. And since evolution does not take into account the Creator, it is definitely atheistic.

Neither does it affirm that life came from God.

No other scientific theory affirms God either. Do you have a problem with all scientific theories?

 

[Butterfly99]

No other scientific theory affirms God either. Do you have a problem with all scientific theories?

This whole thread is just beyond weird exactly cause of what you wrote.

 

[crjmurray]

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Aw, what were you gonna say? I know it was addressed to me.

 

[patrick jane]

By jzeidler of TOL
To claim atheism you forfeit the ability to claim inalienable rights for yourself. See, our founding fathers knew the truth that our rights don't come from the government, ourself, or a king. Our rights come from God. To deny the existence of God you loose the source of your rights. Thus, not giving you a foundation upon which to stand on them. This then allows anyone to take your rights away from you.

Atheism is more dangerous to our freedom and our republic than we give it credit.

Atheism has a possibility of being a danger because it has no grounding to claim inalienable rights. If rights are given by the state they can take them away at any time and if rights are given by self someone more powerful can take them away. But if rights are given by God then no one has the ability to take rights away.

From jzeidler of TOL

 

[bhsmte]

By jzeidler of TOL
To claim atheism you forfeit the ability to claim inalienable rights for yourself. See, our founding fathers knew the truth that our rights don't come from the government, ourself, or a king. Our rights come from God. To deny the existence of God you loose the source of your rights. Thus, not giving you a foundation upon which to stand on them. This then allows anyone to take your rights away from you.

Atheism is more dangerous to our freedom and our republic than we give it credit.

Atheism has a possibility of being a danger because it has no grounding to claim inalienable rights. If rights are given by the state they can take them away at any time and if rights are given by self someone more powerful can take them away. But if rights are given by God then no one has the ability to take rights away.

From jzeidler of TOL

Tell it to the judge.

 

[Job8]

No other scientific theory affirms God either. Do you have a problem with all scientific theories?

No other scientific theories pretend to explain how God created all the species of creatures which exist, and no other scientific theories pretend to intrude on the supernatural. But here is what evolution teaches (in direct contradiction to Divine revelation, and based on PURE SPECULATION):

Highly energetic chemistry is thought to have produced [SPECULATION] a self-replicating molecule around 4 billion years ago, and half a billion years later the last common ancestor of all life existed. The current scientific consensus is that the complex biochemistry that makes up life came from simpler chemical reactions. [SPECULATION] The beginning of life may have included self-replicating molecules such as RNA and the assembly of simple cells [SPECULATION].... Prokaryotes inhabited the Earth from approximately 3–4 billion years ago. No obvious changes in morphology or cellular organisation occurred in these organisms over the next few billion years. The eukaryotic cells emerged between 1.6–2.7 billion years ago. [SPECULATION] The next major change in cell structure came when bacteria were engulfed by eukaryotic cells, in a cooperative association called endosymbiosis.The engulfed bacteria and the host cell then underwent coevolution, with the bacteria evolving into either mitochondria or hydrogenosomes. Another engulfment of cyanobacterial-like organisms led to the formation of chloroplasts in algae and plants. [PURE SPECULATION]

The history of life was that of the unicellular eukaryotes, prokaryotes and archaea until about 610 million years ago when multicellular organisms began to appear in the oceans in the Ediacaran period. [MORE SPECULATION] The evolution of multicellularity occurred in multiple independent events, in organisms as diverse assponges, brown algae, cyanobacteria, slime moulds andmyxobacteria. Soon after the emergence of these first multicellular organisms, a remarkable amount of biological diversity appeared over approximately 10 million years, in an event called the Cambrian explosion. Here, the majority of types of modern animals appeared in the fossil record, as well as unique lineages that subsequently became extinct. Various triggers for the Cambrian explosion have been proposed, including the accumulation of oxygen in the atmosphere from photosynthesis. [NO REFERENCE TO THE CREATION ACCOUNT WHATSOEVER] About 500 million years ago, plants and fungi colonised the land and were soon followed by arthropods and other animals. Insects were particularly successful and even today make up the majority of animal species. Amphibians first appeared around 364 million years ago, followed by early amniotes and birdsaround 155 million years ago (both from "reptile"-like lineages), mammals around 129 million years ago, homininae around 10 million years ago and modern humans around 250,000 years ago.However, despite the evolution of these large animals, smaller organisms similar to the types that evolved early in this process continue to be highly successful and dominate the Earth, with the majority of both biomass and species being prokaryotes. [ALL GUESSWORK]

Quoted from Wikipedia

 

[bhsmte]

No other scientific theories pretend to explain how God created all the species of creatures which exist, and no other scientific theories pretend to intrude on the supernatural. But here is what evolution teaches (in direct contradiction to Divine revelation, and based on PURE SPECULATION):
Quoted from Wikipedia

No scientific theory mentions God, nor does evolution. If it doesn't mention a God, how can you claim it explains how God created?

It also appears, you are confusing abiogenesis with evolution, which is a common issue, with creationists. Evolution, does not deal in how life began.

 

[justlookinla]

Perhaps that should be "most theologically liberal Christians" accept evolution. And since evolution does not take into account the Creator, it is definitely atheistic.

Neither does it affirm that life came from God.

Depends on what view of evolution is being promoted. Some Christians embrace a form of theistic macro evolution while rejecting Godless Darwinist macro evolution. Other Christians reject any view of macro evolution but embrace micro evolution.

 

[justlookinla]

No other scientific theory affirms God either. Do you have a problem with all scientific theories?

The 'scientific theory' of Darwinist evolution definitely rejects God. God isn't needed, wanted or permitted in that particular view of evolution.

 

[patrick jane]

Tell it to the judge.

Jesus Christ will judge -

2 Corinthians 5:10 -

Acts 10:42 KJV - And He commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is He which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead

Acts 17:31 KJV - Because He hath an appointed day, in the which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained; whereof He hath given assurance unto all men, in that He hath raised Him from the dead.

John 5:22 - John 5:30 - John 8:15-16 -


And we will judge - 1 Corinthians 6:3-4 KJV

 

[As I was saying]

Glad you can learn.

I only wish atheists had that ability, but, unfortunately it doesn't seem as though it is going to happen. They seem to be rusted onto a failed ideology that produces nothing more than pain and degradation. So sad when they could be full of the life that is in Christ and not fill themselves with such cynicism, negativity, hopelessness and nothingness.

I have yet to find a single atheist that seems to be happy and has a reason for living other than this is all there is so get over it.

 

[As I was saying]

Perhaps that should be "most theologically liberal Christians" accept evolution. And since evolution does not take into account the Creator, it is definitely atheistic. Neither does it affirm that life came from God.

Yes, the atheists seen to have a blockage when it comes to the term christian. They seem to apply any meaning to it as long as they can make it mean what they want it to mean. As a result they make claims and accusations that just don't hold water.

I have been an evangelical Christian for 62 years in three countries and I have yet to find one that believes in evolution. From my experience I have to assume that most christians do not believe or accept evolution.

If they do I can only guess that their christianity is devoid of some of the basic essentials of the faith. One of which is that in the beginning, GOD created the heaven and the earth and everything in it. Nowhere have I read God say you can take that or leave it so for the true believer, God created the heavens and the earth and all that is in it.

The atheist/evolutionist can dispute the fact and come up with all sorts of speculation as to why God didn't create the heavens and the earth but until they can prove otherwise, the true believer will stick with what God says, not conjecture as to what atheists say.

And let's face it, atheists admit they can't prove that God did not create the heavens and the earth and all that is in it. Therefore we do not have to lose any sleep over trying to prove to atheists that God did create the heavens and the earth and everything in it.

The main difference between the true believer and the atheist is that the true believer has faith, fact and conviction. The atheist only have speculation which they claim is fact when we all know that it is not. Basing your faith on nothing but speculation is not my idea of fun but atheists prefer to do things that way so they have made their bed and have to lie on it.

When you believe in nothing as atheists do, it is very hard to be convinced that believing in someone is plausible. Even the fact that 2.4 billion believe doesn't seem to register with them so all I can say is it is your funeral.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And...........

As a Christian, it behooves you to not be arrogant, since that certainly how you have come across in practically all your posts.
You just post claim after claim, and if someone tells you that you are wrong, you get quite angry and rude.

 

[As I was saying]

As a Christian, it behooves you to not be arrogant, since that certainly how you have come across in practically all your posts.
You just post claim after claim, and if someone tells you that you are wrong, you get quite angry and rude.

I am autistic on the high end scale which means that we don't get angry because we cannot. Our brain does not allow us to get angry. I think you are confusing it with telling the truth which in general atheists can't handle.

As for being rude, I don't even know the meaning of the word as it is an emotion which we have very little ability to express. We tell it like it is because we are so open and straightforward. Rudeness is in the eye of the beholder and I am pleased to say that I don't get upset if other people are rude towards me whatever it is.

 

[AV1611VET]

Saying that their ideology 'produces nothing more than pain and degradation' is not only ridiculous blase, but also just incredibly insulting.

If I may ask ... how do you know?

You're a deist.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If I may ask ... how do you know?

You're a deist.

Used to be an atheist. Plus I also am friends with people who are atheists.

 

[AV1611VET]

Used to be an atheist. Plus I also am friends with people who are atheists.

You and your friends must be incredibly sensitive then, as I hear all the time how Christianity/creationism is responsible for our country being behind in the World Smarts Competition; and I take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You and your friends must be incredibly sensitive then, as I hear all the time how Christianity/creationism is responsible for our country being behind in the World Smarts Competition; and I take it with a grain of salt.

Well, two things:

1. I'm British and,
2. I do not believe that it's religion that's put the USA in the state it's in. People misusing religion, aye, but not religion by itself.

 

[AV1611VET]

I do not believe that it's religion that's put the USA in the state it's in. People misusing religion, aye, but not religion by itself.

Others do though.

And I don't find it 'incredibly offensive.'

In fact, over the years here, I've come to believe that people act offensive, just for [whatever reason].

Especially at the saying: "There are no atheists in foxholes."