Evolution is just a theory!

[Colter]

Perhaps but when you "derive" your authority from the Bible, then you are trusting in God to be the final authority. Because He tells us that He will watch over His word to perform it. So when God says it, then that settles it. We do not always understand what God is saying, so people have been know to make errors and mistakes, but God does not have an eraser on His pencil, He does not every make any mistakes. Of course He has the advantage of actually being able to look into the future to see how things turn out. We do not have that advantage. Also He can go back in time to fix things. If we went back in time to try to fix something we may end up with a bigger mess then what we started with.

Jer 1 12 The LORD said to me, "You have seen correctly, for I am watching to see that my word is fulfilled."

We do not trust in man and we do not trust in ourselves or our own ability. We trust in God and in what He is able to do.

"Look into the future to see how things turn out"????? LOL! That's not what the man made Bible says.

 

[Colter]

The point being the ability to record events from the past.



You're introducing your imaginations again.



'Distortion' is simply a biased word used in your personal opinion.

No other culture on earth has the story the Jews re-created about their history. But they didn't claim to be writing the word of God, that's a creation of the later priesthood perpetuated by the followers.

 

[justlookinla]

No other culture on earth has the story the Jews re-created about their history.

"Re-created" is a view fueled by your imagination.

But they didn't claim to be writing the word of God, that's a creation of the later priesthood perpetuated by the followers.

Again, a view fueled by your imagination.

 

[Job8]

Pretenders of what?

Pretending to be wise they became fools.
Pretending to be Christians they became unbelievers.

 

[Colter]

"Re-created" is a view fueled by your imagination.



Again, a view fueled by your imagination.

No, it's a view formed by a sound mind that doesn't have a religious bias to defend.

The term imagination would apply to the Jews rewriting of their dubious past, taking ordinary secular history and converting it into a miraculous fiction. Jesus was accurate when he said to them "your father is the devil."

 

[joshua 1 9]

No other culture on earth has the story the Jews re-created about their history. But they didn't claim to be writing the word of God, that's a creation of the later priesthood perpetuated by the followers.

Gilgamesh wrote a store about Noah. It was after the flood and he wanted to talk to Noah and so he went looking for him. Eventually he found Noah and got answers to his questions. So there are books about Noah before Moses wrote about him in the Bible.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Gilgamesh wrote a store about Noah. It was after the flood and he wanted to talk to Noah and so he went looking for him. Eventually he found Noah and got answers to his questions. So there are books about Noah before Moses wrote about him in the Bible.

From a historical perspective, it is highly unlikely that Moses wrote any portion of the bible. Especially considering the fact that it would be odd to refer to oneself constantly by name if that were the case.

 

[Colter]

Gilgamesh wrote a store about Noah. It was after the flood and he wanted to talk to Noah and so he went looking for him. Eventually he found Noah and got answers to his questions. So there are books about Noah before Moses wrote about him in the Bible.

My Gosh, I'm sorry, that is an incredibly silly thing to say in light of the fact that everyone on earth, with the exception of Noah and his family, were supposedly drowned by God in a year long, world wide flood.

 

[Colter]

From a historical perspective, it is highly unlikely that Moses wrote any portion of the bible. Especially considering the fact that it would be odd to refer to oneself constantly by name if that were the case.

.....and narrate his own funeral. Moses may have written some thing but it wasn't in Hebrew and it was all redone in Babylon.

 

[lupusFati]

This thread is about evolution. How on earth did it turn into a debate on the Flood of the Bible?

 

[PsychoSarah]

.....and narrate his own funeral. Moses may have written some thing but it wasn't in Hebrew and it was all redone in Babylon.

Plausible, if he actually existed. I wouldn't be shocked if the biblical Moses had some basis in reality, but I hardly doubt the biblical description is perfect.

 

[PsychoSarah]

This thread is about evolution. How on earth did it turn into a debate on the Flood of the Bible?

This thread is also about creationism, inherently by virtue of being a part of this subforum.

 

[lupusFati]

This thread is also about creationism, inherently by virtue of being a part of this subforum.

Then I pose the same question. How did it become about the Flood from the Bible? The Flood didn't create anything. It was an act of destruction, not creationism, nor evolution.

It's wildly off topic in my mind.

 

[Colter]

Plausible, if he actually existed. I wouldn't be shocked if the biblical Moses had some basis in reality, but I hardly doubt the biblical description is perfect.

I believe Moses existed, but my skeptical side notices that, if the authors of the Bible books were trying to create a consistent fraud, the narratives don't read like they were very carful to do a good job of it.

 

[Colter]

Then I pose the same question. How did it become about the Flood from the Bible? The Flood didn't create anything. It was an act of destruction, not creationism, nor evolution.

It's wildly off topic in my mind.

Its goes top the reliability of the Genesis narrative.

 

[lupusFati]

Its goes top the reliability of the Genesis narrative.

Still not relevant imho to the title of the thread, though. I was posing a serious question anyway but I guess that will go unanswered.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Then I pose the same question. How did it become about the Flood from the Bible? The Flood didn't create anything. It was an act of destruction, not creationism, nor evolution.

It's wildly off topic in my mind.

It is relevant as a concern of genetic bottlenecks. If the biblical account of the flood were accurate, evolution would have to occur at a ridiculous pace to the point that we would almost see stuff as crazy as cats giving birth to dogs. That, or every living creature should have variation comparable to the cheetah (every cheetah can be a tissue donor to any other cheetah).

 

[lupusFati]

It is relevant as a concern of genetic bottlenecks. If the biblical account of the flood were accurate, evolution would have to occur at a ridiculous pace to the point that we would almost see stuff as crazy as cats giving birth to dogs. That, or every living creature should have variation comparable to the cheetah (every cheetah can be a tissue donor to any other cheetah).

Oh okay. Now it makes sense. Thanks.

 

[Colter]

Oh okay. Now it makes sense. Thanks.

Yes, according to Bible worshipers there would have been a rapid regeneration of life on earth after the flood, even of races and cultures, NONE of which has any tradition about being related to a guy named Noah. The creators of Genesis didn't think about these complications.

Also, we have NEVER found one skeleton with the dinosaurs killed by a world wide flood. Much would have been preserved in a consistent sediment.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes, according to Bible worshipers there would have been a rapid regeneration of life on earth after the flood, even of races and cultures, NONE of which has any tradition about being related to a guy named Noah. The creators of Genesis didn't think about these complications.

Also, we have NEVER found one skeleton with the dinosaurs killed by a world wide flood. Much would have been preserved in a consistent sediment.

And while there are quite a few flood stories around the world, that is easily explained by the fact that in the past, most people lived by large sources of fresh water, which would often flood.