Death Penalty for Abortion

Would you support the death penalty for abortion?


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Relate it to; comforting lies, vs inconvenient truths.

What, you mean the truth that atheists can't handle? Now I understand why all truth is very inconvenient for atheists. What is that old saying...a lie a day keeps the truth away.
 
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You have a slight problem, it wasn't his definition of baby, but how these things that are called "dictionaries" define baby.

I believe it was you, who posted something that looked like a dictionary definition, but you altered it to meet your needs.

Intellectual dishonesty, would best describe this.

And you definitely have a problem as you don't understand the basics of debate. That fact that he posted that definition he made it his definition. Otherwise why did he post it? By your definition, everything that is posted from another source is not relevant because it is not the person's own comment. That means we can completely disregard everything that an atheist says if it comes from another source, like the one that posted a link that proved you were born homosexual (which it didn't).

If it wasn't his definition, why are you criticizing me for posting a definition of a baby from a dictionary? I am only doing what he did, so if my definition is not valid, neither is his so he has no argument.

I would like to know where you get your magical powers from because I can't work out how you know I altered my dictionary definition (which I didn't) as you don't know which dictionary it came from? You're not one of those mediums that claims to hear all that mumbo jumbo from the other side are you?
 
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And you definitely have a problem as you don't understand the basics of debate. That fact that he posted that definition he made it his definition. Otherwise why did he post it? By your definition, everything that is posted from another source is not relevant because it is not the person's own comment. That means we can completely disregard everything that an atheist says if it comes from another source, like the one that posted a link that proved you were born homosexual (which it didn't).

If it wasn't his definition, why are you criticizing me for posting a definition of a baby from a dictionary? I am only doing what he did, so if my definition is not valid, neither is his so he has no argument.

I would like to know where you get your magical powers from because I can't work out how you know I altered my dictionary definition (which I didn't) as you don't know which dictionary it came from? You're not one of those mediums that claims to hear all that mumbo jumbo from the other side are you?

Which dictionary did it come from? I asked you to post the link yesterday.
 
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and she had lots of support and help, who knows, maybe a lot of happily ever after stories of mothers and children would happen.
I happen to agree with you but just where is this help?
What I hear most often from pro-lifers is take away free medical care, so what then for her and her unborn child. And take away subsidies such as HUD, medical care, food stamps, etc. which are all necessary to pro-life.
I think I'm about done voting for anyone who says they are PRO-life but are so greedy they would vote to take away the very necessities of life from that child they say they are pro-life about.
 
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I happen to agree with you but just where is this help?
What I hear most often from pro-lifers is take away free medical care, so what then for her and her unborn child. And take away subsidies such as HUD, medical care, food stamps, etc. which are all necessary to pro-life.
I think I'm about done voting for anyone who says they are PRO-life but are so greedy they would vote to take away the very necessities of life from that child they say they are pro-life about.

You musn't judge everything and everyone by what you know and don't know. The world is bigger than that. All over my country there are countless churches and pregnancy support centres that have helped mothers to carry their baby to full term and then stood by them whilst they adjust to motherhood. Today there are countless numbers of children alive because of the valuable work they do. Without that support they would have been forced into an abortion they didn't want.
 
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You have convinced yourself that I agree with you?

Your defense mechanisms are potent, congrats.

Sorry, you have convinced me that you agree with me. Atheists hate being proved wrong so when someone posts something that is the truth that they cannot refute, you know that you are right and they cannot deny it. So in many ways, atheists are a Christian's best friend.
 
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Sorry, you have convinced me that you agree with me. Atheists hate being proved wrong so when someone posts something that is the truth that they cannot refute, you know that you are right and they cannot deny it. So in many ways, atheists are a Christian's best friend.

Well, you keep claiming what you like.
 
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If the definition of a baby is not my definition of a baby then it is not a definition of a baby. So typical of an atheist who has made it very clear his religion is me, myself and I. In other words, NOTHING outside of my little and irrelevant world has any validity.

What??? You even admitted to being caught in a lie... Come on, baby defender.
 
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I happen to agree with you but just where is this help?
What I hear most often from pro-lifers is take away free medical care, so what then for her and her unborn child. And take away subsidies such as HUD, medical care, food stamps, etc. which are all necessary to pro-life.
I think I'm about done voting for anyone who says they are PRO-life but are so greedy they would vote to take away the very necessities of life from that child they say they are pro-life about.
You have a point there. Many of the pro life folks in the US seem to be wvid warmongers, and display little compassion. However, God really hates baby killers and I strongly suggest that they repent this moment. He is watching.
 
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From that article. "It was so unthinkable that an Israelite woman should desire an abortion that there was no need to mention this offense in the criminal code." [6] All that was necessary to prohibit an abortion was the command, “You shall not murder”

Nice try dad. Yes the author did quote one of the Ten Commandments using the term "murder." However, when it came time to identify abortion as murder he failed to do so. Rather he identified abortion as killing.

Again, murder is the illegal killing of a human being with malice aforethought.

Babies are from God and formed by God. They do things like prophesy in the womb! To perform such Satanic and ghoulish ritualistic murder of millions of innocents a year is a crime so vile that even supporting it is a great crime. It is supporting terrorism.

In your opinion. I certainly do not share your opinion that abortion is terrorism. However you are certainly entitled toi your opinion, just as I am entitled to mine.

It becomes sickening to hear people piously hold up the rare exceptions as the excuse for the butchering and burning and hacking to death of young folks, when it is but a cover for the blasphemous attack on God that is in their hearts.

Hold on. This thread is not a general discussion about whether abortion should be permitted, although you seem to be attempting to turn it into such a thread. This thread is about whether the Death Penalty should exist for Abortion. I have limited my discussion to incidents involving rape because I do not see how any reasonable person could justify putting a rape victim to death for having an abortion. First we punish her with the rape, then we execute her for having an abortion. Perhaps that is a case of "when life gives you lemons make lemonade to you, but ist certainly is not to the rape victim.

Like the one poster here who at least had the guts to admit he supported a woman in any wish to kill kill kill all the babies she wanted that God had allowed to be placed temporarily in her care. Your turn. Do you support a woman's right to abortion with few restrictions yes or no? Be brave.

What do you mean "be brave." This is a discussion forum. It is proper to answer questions when they are asked, although some on here seem to feel that they don't have to.

Yes, I believe that a woman should be permitted to have a legal abortion under the circumstances set out in the Roe decision. However, that is not what I am addressing here. I am specifically asking whether a rape victim should be permitted to have an abortion.

I would suggest that godly education be offered, so that people are not scared out of their mind to have babies, even in circumstances where the dad is M.O.A. or a bad guy. You have sown the wind with Satanic godless education and you are starting to reap the whirlwind.

"Hi rape victim. I know this pregnancy wasn't your doing, but you are going to carry this fetus to term whether you like it or not because when life gives you lemons, make lemonade."

So much for the concept of loving your neighbor as yourself. Perhaps you have not come accrossed that concept. It is in this book called the Bible.

It is terrible. But life is not a bowl of cherries. The man who (probably was raised with godless education also) forces his way on a woman to become the dad. Now sometimes dads get killed in wars, at work, or otherwise disappear from the picture. Yet children and moms do OK, sometimes finding a father also. If it was known that murdering kids was illegal and carried a price, in whatever country the woman lived in, and she had lots of support and help, who knows, maybe a lot of happily ever after stories of mothers and children would happen. Yes, the article pointed out how babies are people and from God. The bible does not say 'don't mutilate, and kill old ladies above the age of 77'!

So it is up to you, a man who will never become pregnant, to forcfe a woman to carry a fetus to term against her will.

You have not a hope in hell of making a case for that not being murder than for children under the age of 9 months!

Read the definition.
 
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And there is no doubt that you are doing your best to avoid the fact millions of babies murdered in the womb is a sizable number and the fact that you believe they have no right to a voice in their defence. You would rather allow millions of babies to be murdered so that a handful in comparison can have their rights dealt with.

But I am limiting my discussion to allowing women who have suffered rape to have abortions. The topic in this thread is whether the Death Penelty should apply for abortions. Do you honestly believe that a woman who has been raped should be forced to carry the spawn of her attacker to term and should bne killed if she refuses to do so and has an abortion?

if you weren't so morally dishonest, you would argue that the millions of babies murdered because of, in the main, the selfishness of the parents should not be destroyed and torn to pieces because of babies conceived because of rape. if you had a moral bone in your body you would be arguing that babies conceived because of rape can have the choice of abortion and all the others which are the product of selfishness should take responsibility for their actions and carry the baby to full term and then if they don't want it there are plenty of people out there who would love to adopt the child. Killing millions of babies because of the unfortunate situation caused by rape smacks of moral turpitude.

I have been polite to you in this thread. I have not made any false accusations against you. I expect you to be polite in response. Since you apparently cannot be this discussion is over.
 
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