Why does the earth rotate?

[dad]

We know the history of the ideas about the universe.

True, God spoke to us since the garden.

They idea that the universe is ancient was not presupposed.

Worse than than, invented.

What was presupposed was that the earth and stars and sun and planets go back to about 4000+ BC.

Way back to creation week actually.

Now we have learned better, but it is not presupposed, the knowledge of the size and age of the universe came in stages as we made more and more discoveries.

Stages of delusion that turned into stages of rigor mortis.

 

[ecco]

bump

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Trusting in your same state past religion over God's word is a bad thing.

You can trust the direct Word of God revealed in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes.

 

[dad]

You can trust the direct Word of God revealed in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes.

His word was revealed only through His Son, and prophets. The misguided delusions of what the creation says by godless little mice and men are less than nothing.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

His word was revealed only through His Son, and prophets. The misguided delusions of what the creation says by godless little mice and men are less than nothing.

Strangely, the Bible you say you believe says otherwise.

Ps 19:1
The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
NASU

Its clear you only believe the parts of the Bible you agree with.

 

[dad]

Strangely, the Bible you say you believe says otherwise.

Ps 19:1
The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
NASU

Yes, despite the demonic doctrine of devils that try to interpret the stars and created heavens as hot speck barfed non created confusion, I look at the heavens and see that they actually declare the glory of God. Those who know Him do that.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Yes, despite the demonic doctrine of devils that try to interpret the stars and created heavens as hot speck barfed non created confusion, I look at the heavens and see that they actually declare the glory of God. Those who know Him do that.

The above weird communication was typed by a man with thousands of retroviral inserts in his DNA, matching place by place with identical retroviral inserts in chimpanzees and gorillas, a thing impossible except for common descent.

 

[AV1611VET]

The above weird communication was typed by a man with thousands of retroviral inserts in his DNA, matching place by place with identical retroviral inserts in chimpanzees and gorillas, a thing impossible except for common descent.

So gorillas came from chimpanzees, did they?

 

[dad]

The above weird communication was typed by a man with thousands of retroviral inserts in his DNA, matching place by place with identical retroviral inserts in chimpanzees and gorillas, a thing impossible except for common descent.

False. Only impossible as long as present state nature existed. That doesn't say much. We do see your repeated obsession of trying to deny Jesus created man and animals, and claiming we are all kin loud and clear though. Thanks for that.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

We know the history of the ideas about the universe. They idea that the universe is ancient was not presupposed.

Says who?

Once again, if we continue to incorrectly translate "Hayah", or insist others do - then one can never understand the truth.

The earth "became - hayah" desolate and waste. And darkness "became - hayah" upon.... Comet, meteor? Either is fine. Then all new life sprang up where it did not exist before. In all of the 5 past global creation and extinction events.

What was presupposed was that the earth and stars and sun and planets go back to about 4000+ BC. Now we have learned better, but it is not presupposed, the knowledge of the size and age of the universe came in stages as we made more and more discoveries.

Agreed, presupposed by those that incorrectly translate the original Hebrew. But what's your argument when we translate it correctly?

 

[Loudmouth]

So gorillas came from chimpanzees, did they?

I would ask if you descended from your cousins, but I am afraid you would answer in the affirmative.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Says who?

Once again, if we continue to incorrectly translate "Hayah", or insist others do - then one can never understand the truth.

The earth "became - hayah" desolate and waste. And darkness "became - hayah" upon.... Comet, meteor? Either is fine. Then all new life sprang up where it did not exist before. In all of the 5 past global creation and extinction events.




Agreed, presupposed by those that incorrectly translate the original Hebrew. But what's your argument when we translate it correctly?

But that is your present understanding of the earth's history.

What were the earliest interpretations of the earth's history we can find? They are those that presuppose an earth aged 6000 to 10000 years.

Therfore, coming to understand that the earth has billions of years of history instead of thousands is NOT a presupposition. It came LAST not first.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

So gorillas came from chimpanzees, did they?

There was a common ancestral species. But I don't know which speces, of gorillas or chimpanzees, most resembles that original common ancestral species.

 

[AV1611VET]

There was a common ancestral species.

What's its binomial?

Or, as I suspect, is it just an unnamed dot on a piece of paper in a game of connect-the-dots?

 

[The Barbarian]

Paul of Eugene OR said: ↑
You can trust the direct Word of God revealed in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes.

Dad disagrees:

His word was revealed only through His Son, and prophets.

Not if we can trust the Bible:

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.

 

[Kylie]

That may be so, but when I go see Mr. Roddenberry, I can't claim I never heard of Mr. Spock, can I?

So, now, once you understand why me quoting Star Trek isn't going to convince you that Spock is real even though you have heard of him, maybe you'll understand why you quoting the Bible at me isn't going to convince me that God exists, even though I've heard of him.

Get it now?

 

[Kylie]

Science make claims. Oodles of them. Godless little nippers the claims are, too. Nasty.

Yeah, and the claims made by science have support and evidence.

Yours do not.

Big difference.

 

[dad]

Yeah, and the claims made by science have support and evidence.

Yours do not.

Big difference.

Great so evidence the smash up that caused earth to spin! Busted ye be.

 

[Kylie]

Great so evidence the smash up that caused earth to spin! Busted ye be.

Whoa, hold on there, buckaroo...

Show me some legitimate scientific source that is accepted by mainstream scientists that claims that the Earth is only spinning because of an impact.

 

[dad]

Whoa, hold on there, buckaroo...

Show me some legitimate scientific source that is accepted by mainstream scientists that claims that the Earth is only spinning because of an impact.

What would you say did it? Do tell. I seem to recall the OP had a link?