You are under the wrong impression. The earth is not sacred, nor is it even ground...it is not the Creator, but the creation.
Your quite right. As I look around I see the anguish of the earth as we desecrate her. God is very much alive in the earth. When we desecrate the earth, we are desecrating God. When our focus is on otherworldly rewards at the expense of the earth...well, just looking around at what we have done to the earth speaks volumes to me about how wrong we have been in our spiritual trajectory.
Your projecting. I'd say that we are spirit housed in a physical body. And that spirit is an activity of God. That's pretty much the reverse of what you are projecting onto me.
I understand the good news that Jesus taught as being Love, Compassion and Service to those in need. Jesus spent most of His time teaching those very things. I truly do believe that if Christians had spent the past 2000 years spreading and being what Christ taught (Love, Compassion and helping those in need) that the world today would be a much better place. Instead we spread the doctrine of otherworldly afterlife rewards for correct belief...and the earth and it's inhabitants suffer.
Through the years I've found myself committed more and to the spiritual Christ flowing through all of the cosmos and less to the man named Jesus. I've come to see that kind of perspective gives me a more complete and fuller understanding of the depth of the physical and spiritual aspects, which I do enjoy very much. It's such a blessing to see Christ in the wonders of life, everywhere I look.
You prove my point. When the earth is not seen as sacred, we rape and desecrate her. Which we have done in a grand scale. We have failed the earth so badly that she now is shaking us off her with our own poison and pollution we have pumped into her. I see that as a failed theology.
As I look through the projected image, I see the presence of God. With God as my reality, how could it be otherwise?
The "Light" IS the energy of God breaking through into the physical. That light and energy just doesn't come from nowhere.
There is no physical. It's imagery, period.
In that way of thinking, one could not "believe" anything.
There are mystics who say that we are the universe being aware of itself. Replace the word "universe" with the word "God", and you get the spiritual sense of their meaning. God being aware of Him/HerSelf is about as circular as you can get.
Which just gives wholesale approval to desecrate the earth because the spiritual aspect of her is not seen or appreciated.
Not at all. That is not what I said. I explained, that anyone who knows the purpose or the Creator, would never do anything to desecrate. We also know that there are many who do not know the Creator, who are ecology-minded, and would never. Meaning, that even though there are still others who don't know the Creator and are not ecology-minded...it's two against one, and they will loose. There is every reason to be hopeful.
The difference between believing science and believing the bible. Is science admits it gets it wrong and corrects itself. The bible and faithful never admit to be wrong, even when the bible contradicts itself.
As I look out at what we have done to the earth and the examples we see, all I can say is that it crystal clear that very few people know the Creator. I feel my argument still stands. People are way more focused on their own personal afterlife rewards at the expense of this Creation. I see this trajectory as the natural results of the theology they are a part of.
I would have to say that is not the case.
God says, "Taste, and know that I am good."
But Time IS indeed in question...which makes BOTH versions of the age of the universe irrelevant.
"It is finished." What more is there to say?
But you are missing the point: The earth IS expendable (passing away).
We rape the world and pay to heed to the cries of Mother Nature. And all I've seen you do is justify it as the earth being "expendable". That in itself makes what your claiming as truth, a faulty theology, IMHO.
I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
I've wondered how far you take the earthly things as being expendable. For you, does earthly things include the animals and trees? How about our human body? Is it expendable? And if so, to take it a step further, is the rape and desecration of children not a big deal because the body is expendable as well? The relationship I see you arguing is that like the earth, that child's body is just an earthly body, so let it suffer. So no big deal because there's a bigger picture that you see. I can't and won't support that kind of theology.I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
I'm having a hard time putting my mind around that thought. The earth has a soul, how can any soul be expendable?
You have allowed your emotions to demonize me.
The physical evolves. The physical does not go away. The physical is how the spiritual takes form. What we do to the spiritual now effects what it looks like in the future. So, when we do violence to the physical like we do to the earth, that reaches out to the spiritual and touches it in kind. The physical is way more than energy and light. It has life as well. And life has spirit.
