Dinosaurs

[RickG]

More like you're trying to sterilize jots & tittles.

Context changes over time with many words and phrases. I just think that is something that needs to be considered. Especially when it contradicts.

 

[AV1611VET]

Context changes over time with many words and phrases. I just think that is something that needs to be considered. Especially when it contradicts.

Well thank the firmaments we have you guys to keep us focused on their ignorance.

 

[RickG]

Well thank the firmaments we have you guys to keep us focused on their ignorance.

Always glad to help. Don't hesitate to ask in the future?

 

[Devorim]

Methinks the Irish Rovers didn't know their Bibles very well.

Unicorns were indeed aboard the Ark, as they are mentioned later in the books of Job and Psalms; not to mention Numbers and Deuteronomy.

Indeed! But for some of us, an agreeable story is more fun for us to accept and retell than is TRUTH!!

 

[Split Rock]

That is the definition of Kind......some type of grouping.

Creationists who do "baraminology" actually carry out phylogenetic analysis ans such to determine what the different "baramins" (a baramin being a technical term for Kind) are.

From AIG:

"The desire to classify modern creatures—based on the original created kinds—has spawned a new field of biology known as baraminology. "
https://answersingenesis.org/creation-science/baraminology/

 

[Loudmouth]

"When I explained that only about 600 species of dinosaurs had ever been named, that many species had been named from only a piece of one bone, that many of the species were probably of the same "kind," that many dinosaurs were small, that God wouldn't have brought the largest specimens to Noah, and that, in my opinion, there were probably only around 100 dinosaurs onboard the Ark, with an average size of a cow"John D. Morris, Ph.D.

The Institute for Creation Research

Then where are they?

Why was post flood survival determined by the ratio of isotopes in the rocks that were found above their buried comrades? That's a mystery that no YEC has yet solved.

 

[SkyWriting]

Only not specific in that not every creature was named. However, it is all inclusive of animals with flesh.

"And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female." (Genesus 6:19)
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Good. Your almost getting it.
IT IS NOT SPECIFIC IF IT IS ALL INCLUSIVE!

Examples of increasing specifics:

8. food
7. junk food
6. dessert
5. ice cream
4. premium ice cream
3. Ben and Jerry's ice cream
2. Ben and Jerry's Chunky Monkey ice cream
1. a double-scoop waffle cone of Ben and Jerry's Chunky Monkey ice cream

 

[SkyWriting]

Creationists who do "baraminology" actually carry out phylogenetic analysis ans such to determine what the different "baramins" (a baramin being a technical term for Kind) are.
From AIG: "The desire to classify modern creatures—based on the original created kinds—has spawned a new field of biology known as baraminology. "
https://answersingenesis.org/creation-science/baraminology/

That's nice.
I don't follow creationist groups.
If they think that helps, fine.

 

[pgp_protector]

SkyWriting, never did see a reply to this.

Perhaps none.
Only those "in whose nostrils was the breath of life" were on the Ark.
I'm not sure if they qualified. I don't use that phrase myself.

Gen 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,

and then in Gen 7:21 we have this

21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

So if they weren't on the ark, and every creeping thing not on the ark died, where did they come from?

 

[SkyWriting]

Context changes over time with many words and phrases. I just think that is something that needs to be considered. Especially when it contradicts.

I have found each and every "contradiction" to be a "complimentary"
source of insight.

There are no "contradictions" in scripture
just mistakes due to weak study habits.
These habits can always be improved.

 

[SkyWriting]

SkyWriting, never did see a reply to this.
and then in Gen 7:21 we have this
So if they weren't on the ark, and every creeping thing not on the ark died, where did they come from?

I figured that at some point you would check.
In this case check the sentence before it, Gen 7:20


The first rule of interpretation is to:

#1 Add on the sentence before and after the passage.
Then
the chapter before and after, then the book before and after.

 

[pgp_protector]

I figured that at some point you would check.
In this case check the sentence before it, Gen 7:20


The first rule of interpretation is to:

#1 Add on the sentence before and after the passage.
Then
the chapter before and after, then the book before and after.

7 And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.

4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him.

6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.

7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.

8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,

9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.

15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the Lord shut him in.

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

So where did the beetles come from ?

Still says every living substance was destroyed.

 

[SkyWriting]

Are you quoting Mr Morris's creation research now? Gosh, the institute really is rigorous isn't it!

Did you see any quote marks?
I'm a movie buff.

Velociraptor - About.com Dinosaurs
By Bob Strauss
Dinosaurs Expert

Velociraptor: Facts about the 'Speedy Thief'

 

[SkyWriting]

So where did the beetles come from ?

Still says every living substance was destroyed.

Liverpool, I believe.

 

[pgp_protector]

Liverpool, I believe.

So Liverpool was in the Ark? or was the Bible wrong about every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground ?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Liverpool, I believe.

No, those were Beatles.

 

[Split Rock]

That's nice.
I don't follow creationist groups.
If they think that helps, fine.

I'd say that's to your benefit.

 

[Davian]

 

[Split Rock]

I prefer this idea:
http://s2.hubimg.com/u/209795_f520.jpg

 

[SkyWriting]

So where did the beetles come from ?

Still says every living substance was destroyed.

Which beetles are you concerned about? And where? And when?