Dinosaurs

[RickG]

The same as anyone makes wild-S guesses about the past....they make up fictional stories that will please the greatest number of people. It should sound plausible if possible. The more plausible and reasonable and in line with what most people think, the more likely the fiction will be well received.

You mean creation science? No, my affiliation is with mainstream science.

 

[Hammster]

There was no ark.

I mean, its dimensions are literally impossible using the construction abilities of that period and the materials used; not to mention all of the upkeep and such of the animals. It wouldn't be able to fit all of said animals, nor could they be reliably cared for in any fashion.

So the point of the story is...?

 

[DerelictJunction]

Or written by a human. Humans are prone to generalizations
which creates grey areas of accuracy but aids in the
passing of knowledge. But no, that's not how accuracy
and precision works. Not every arrow hitting the target is a bulls eye.

Since it was written by Moses, does that mean the entire book of Genesis could simply be Moses' "generalizations"?

Your example of accuracy and precision are the measurement definition not the generally accepted layman's definition of accurate.
Since we are talking past each other, perhaps we should use the terms correct and incorrect.
Is the Genesis account of Noah's flood correct?

 

[7angels]

were dinos allowed on the ark?

i have heard and saw proof that dinos were around after the flood. look at all the drawings of early civilization where there are pictures of beasts fighting man. also who says that all the creatures brought on the ark were adults? research shows that baby dinos were not that big when born. reptiles according to science never stop growing as long as their environment will allow it. also there is proof of dinos attacking or being attacked around the world that look similar to the early versions of dinos looked like.

i will have to find the source if you are interested. it has been about 6 months since i came across it.

God bless

 

[RickG]

They were.

Interesting. How is that determined?

 

[Hammster]

Interesting. How is that determined?

Scripture.

 

[RickG]

Scripture.

I see how that can be assumed, however, I do disagree based on the knowledge that were no dinosaurs during that period of history.

 

[Hammster]

I see how that can be assumed, however, I do disagree based on the knowledge that were no dinosaurs during that period of history.

None at all?

 

[RickG]

None at all?

Humans and dinosaurs did not coexist.

 

[Hammster]

Humans and dinosaurs did not coexist.

So really, then, your thread was started under false pretenses. I cannot respect that.

I'll bow out now.

 

[RickG]

So really, then, your thread was started under false pretenses. I cannot respect that.

I'll bow out now.

I clearly ask the question in the OP, "Why were dinosaurs not allowed on the Ark?" Please explain how that is false pretenses.

 

[JacksBratt]

Yes, especially when I see misinformation being presented in a field of science I am quite familiar with.

But it's not misinformation.

That has nothing to do with what I asked you. Yes, not only the Cretaceous, but the Jurassic and Triassic also had more atmospheric oxygen than we have today. The said flood event would be an Oligocene event, not a Mesozoic event. You need to show different oxygen level before and after the flood.

IT has everything to do with it. You can use all your fancy names and mythical time periods. Even the info I posted is stating millions of years, which is bogus...
The fact is, the O2 level and barometric pressure changed and the large dino's didn't have the ability to survive at that level. The smaller O2 breathing creatures had the lung capacity to handle the 20% O2 levels.
This is why we still have crocs and aligators, lizards and other little dinosaurs.
Man would of had to adjust but it was obviously not a change we couldn't handle. Living at 35% O2 and 14 PSI would not be fatal to us.

Atmospheric pressure includes all gases, not just oxygen. By your analogy, all life would be extinguished. And not only that your analogy is the opposite of what you are suggesting, more oxygen being toxic.

I thought you were an expert. Our atmosphere is 78% nitrogen and 21% O2 (five or take due to altitude and climate). The other 1% is other gases. This miniscule amount is negligible.

Again, by your analogy, no life would exist and you still have presented no data to back your claims. Why didn't Noah and all other life die? They lived in the same environment requiring the same amount of oxygen according to you.

Again. Humans can adjust to that change from 35 to 21 and 14 PSI to 7. The lung capacity of the large beasts were not able to supply the O2. Our bodies easily could. It was the large life forms that were affected the most.

 

[JacksBratt]

Humans and dinosaurs did not coexist.

Check this picture.

Also this scripture:

“Please observe[a] Behemoth,[b] which I made along with you.
He eats grass like an ox.
16 Now take a look at the strength that he has in his loins,
and in the muscles of his abdomen.
17 His tail protrudes stiffly, like cedar;[c]
the sinews of his thigh interlink for strength.
18 His bones are conduits[d] of bronze;[e]
his strong bones are like bars of iron.

 

[Shemjaza]

IT has everything to do with it. You can use all your fancy names and mythical time periods. Even the info I posted is stating millions of years, which is bogus...
The fact is, the O2 level and barometric pressure changed and the large dino's didn't have the ability to survive at that level. The smaller O2 breathing creatures had the lung capacity to handle the 20% O2 levels.
This is why we still have crocs and aligators, lizards and other little dinosaurs.
Man would of had to adjust but it was obviously not a change we couldn't handle. Living at 35% O2 and 14 PSI would not be fatal to us.

Got any evidence for those numbers?

Also, why are basically all of the small dinosaurs and mammal like reptiles dead? Why are the trilobites gone?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Check this picture.

Check these. Pay careful attention to the toes.

Some people have admitted to carving fake man-tracks alongside dinosaur tracks. The one you showed is not very convincing.

 

[Oafman]

Got any evidence for those numbers

He hasn't, but I have.

If we had evolved in an atmosphere with significantly higher than 20% oxygen, we would have much lower concentrations of haemoglobin in our blood.

More nonsense easily debunked.

 

[Split Rock]

Check this picture.

Also this scripture:

“Please observe[a] Behemoth,[b] which I made along with you.
He eats grass like an ox.
16 Now take a look at the strength that he has in his loins,
and in the muscles of his abdomen.
17 His tail protrudes stiffly, like cedar;[c]
the sinews of his thigh interlink for strength.
18 His bones are conduits[d] of bronze;[e]
his strong bones are like bars of iron.

Is that supposed to be a human foot... or a weird comb? Seriously.... do you really find that photo convincing??

 

[JacksBratt]

Got any evidence for those numbers?

Also, why are basically all of the small dinosaurs and mammal like reptiles dead? Why are the trilobites gone?

The numbers are in the link I left in post #95.

Are they all dead? I think some, probably many, are still around. The ones that did die... Well lots of things have gone extinct for many reasons.

I thought evolution believed that all kinds of animal species died and others carried on the torch?

 

[JacksBratt]

He hasn't, but I have.

If we had evolved in an atmosphere with significantly higher than 20% oxygen, we would have much lower concentrations of haemoglobin in our blood.

More nonsense easily debunked.

Everyone has different levels of hemoglobin in their blood. It depends on climate, diet, altitude and a number of other factors. The human body can easily adapt to living at high altitudes and different oxygen levels.

The Geology site that is pro evolution is where I got this info....

A house divided against itself will not stand....

 

[JacksBratt]

Check these. Pay careful attention to the toes.

Some people have admitted to carving fake man-tracks alongside dinosaur tracks. The one you showed is not very convincing.

Of course it's not convincing. You can't see the truth and won't believe it even when it's in your face.

Evolutionists have been faking, altering, hiding, dismissing, and ignoring data for years.