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That is the conundrum of the law ... the one without did not accuse which is tantamount to throwing the first stone.

this is a picture of the Church soul. don't you think it explains the grace of God in our reality with his angels and saints working with him? and how things are ordered here in our world? I mean, the first verse alone shows the Spirit, the kingdom.

Enoch Chapter 40

Enoch 40:1 After this I beheld thousands of thousands, and myriads of myriads, and an infinite number of people, standing before the Lord of spirits.

Enoch 40:2 On the four wings likewise of the Lord of spirits, on the four sides, I perceived others, besides those who were standing before him. Their names, too, I know; because the angel, who proceeded with me, declared them to me, discovering to me every secret thing.

Enoch 40:3 Then I heard the voices of those upon the four sides magnifying the Lord of glory.

Enoch 40:4 The first voice blessed the Lord of spirits for ever and for ever.

Enoch 40:5 The second voice I heard blessing the Elect One, and the elect who suffer on account of the Lord of spirits.

Enoch 40:6 The third voice I heard petitioning and praying for those who dwell upon earth, and supplicate the name of the Lord of spirits.

Enoch 40:7 The fourth voice I heard expelling the impious angels, (40) and prohibiting them from entering into the presence of the Lord of spirits, to prefer accusations against (41) the inhabitants of the earth.

(40) Impious angels. Literally, "the Satans" (Laurence, p. 45; Knibb, p. 128). Ha-satan in Hebrew ("the adversary") was originally the title of an office, not the name of an angel.
(41) Prefer accusations against. Or, "to accuse" (Charles, p. 119).

Enoch 40:8 After this I besought the angel of peace, who proceeded with me, to explain all that was concealed. I said to him, Who are those whom I have seen on the four sides, and who words I have heard and written down? He replied, The first is the merciful, the patient, the holy Michael.

Enoch 40:9 The second is he who presides over every suffering and every affliction of the sons of men, the holy Raphael. The third, who presides over all that is powerful, is Gabriel. And the fourth, who presides over repentance, and the hope of those who will inherit eternal life, is Phanuel. These are the four angels of the most high God, and their four voices, which at that time I heard.


I think there are 4 gates to the new jerusalem? i can't even remember at this point, i just travel the road. gates and voices are the same expression.

it is good that the law convict. it is part of the revelation of the Father. the Son the revelation of salvation. the Holy Spirit the revelation of creativity and the 8th day. what is the law of our Father? what is the purpose of this reality? anything less than God is sin, that is for sure.


wow... childhood music flashback :0

youtube.com/watch?v=xxTCOR62Cgo
 
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It certainly does.

We tend to think in a fashion that puts truth outside of self, so things become images as to what they are to us based on the natural world we live in. The four gates, and the four rivers are pictures of the same truth as is the four beasts, or four voices, which is even found in such things as quarks which experience the four fundamental interactions, or forces.

Cool song ...
 
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It's a simple enough truth, life is a series of choices and every choice we make effects everyone as much as it effects us.

in one sense they effect us and in another they do not. certainly on the level of this limited reality, with this limited body we might start to get the idea that true reality is structured in such a way. but even a capacity is not a sure thing if you are Gods child, so it is a strange thing in having both a capacity and no capacity. it feels like a cup in the ocean, but I guess i'm a fish that keeps on swimming. a divine fish, lol. i'm a coloring book and I have all kinds of colors on me. I look good. it's such a good drawing the Lords child has made. i'm so happy that God is happy, I just wish we would do more with this reality and world of ours. what kind of lives are we as humans truly supposed to live? I see different people in me and I know all of reality is in me too and God. I have not lost my sense of self so much as I keep finding more of it and at the same time it is nice to be a bit lost in it all too.

I don't like how the world works and is ran. surly Gods children could come up with better ways to make the world? I mean, it is the year 2015 or whatever it is lol. you know, each human being is truly irreplaceable and unique. there is no way that God could make mistakes. I believe all of us have our own soul, our own spirit and freedom. just as much as we are all connected and the same. it is simply better to be both, or at least we had decided on that at some point, since God would never force his hand upon us. this reality would not be without you or me, it would be something completely different.
 
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i'm a spiritual [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse], the smoke of my torment ascends forever. every scar i make, every wound I give to myself is merged with divine glory for all eternity. my wounds are severe, the maggots, they live. the colors of my gore are inexpressible, i can never leave this place I found. but I hide the wounds with a veil.
 
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noxot is nothing more than fox rot, a dead angel, but God lives and so does his other. my own brothers see what i see, because they are free. what is reality? God is reality. our love is the only thing that is real and it is the cause of everything. because we are the Trinity in creation. alive and so simple, darkness and light, just that one bright light. one sight, one fight, one plight, one blight, one night

you know that words are only decay, so simple, so stay. lips and lips, no departing. completion. don't focus on the sayings, focus on me and see

I have you, I drown you. confound you, sound you, bound you.

who is you Lord? it's a beautiful name Lord. life is about thee, come and see

you're a dirty, wicked sinner. so come to me, so that i can complete thee, turn your sorrow into joy, and play with you with our toys. your choice - my voice or your rejoice. in heaven I am, in the abyss, there I am. see. and stop the folly

nothing to prove, nothing to abuse. stop with the madness, stop your sadness. only I am your stability, so live a life with me. cling to me for I cling to thee. cast away the fallen humanity and be thee - so free
 
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who persecutes you?!

Blessings

everyone against God. they try to take me away from him. can you believe that? they want me to go and die with them, but I only want to die with him alone.

God persecutes me. can you believe that? but i'm kind of his prisoner now, which actually is a very nice thing. his castle is on a beautiful island. would rather be his prisoner of war anyways. he forces me to eat all kinds of food I have never heard of. they look and smell strange but they taste weird taste I never tasted before. for I was used to eating slime from the rocks in the cave I used to live in. but you know i tasted that slime for so long, everything in a sense taste the same to me. which is good because I heard God wants me to be simple and from such a simple union all things are ours.

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who persecutes you?
 
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you know, the only thing I am now looking for is a true life to live out in this world. because beingness has to be expressed, God offers to us everlasting life. I want something of my own expression with God in this world, I think that is why everyone is here. I know I already have it and it is hard to escape from the simple truths of reality and eternal love. but now i'm in the mystery of living out my life in the world and I am perplexed by it, but I hope to be very spiritually free with God, like Jesus is. because I bet that Jesus wanted the fullness of life for all of us and I think glorifying God means creating a true self in God, rather than just using Gods free gifts to conform self to the symbols of the truth.

but I don't know fully what i want, but I want something new. something that will truly make me happy. and I want everyone to be as happy in this world with God as they can be. I want to watch this reality shift by Gods grace right before my eyes, I want to see his power in action and I want to see me with him. I want those things that were hidden to be out in the open, I want to see heaven in earth and everyone seeing the truth, rather than living a lie.

i can not express how beautiful God is making my soul to be and I can not speak a word as to how many beautiful ones God is showing me.
 
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some people were persecuted for having tried to contribute with something good to the overall salvation in Him, others were prosecuted for causing evil to their neighbor(cohabitant), as for your case, i don't know, neither would dare to intrigue

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some people were persecuted for having tried to contribute with something good to the overall salvation in Him, others were prosecuted for having caused evil to their neighbor(cohabitant), as for your case, i don't know, neither would dare to intrigue

Blessings

I hope to have no part in doing such evils to people and I hope to recognize the good things God has blessed others with to bless me with. I hope that when i speak to someone that they receive of God what it is that God wishes to give them, even if it does not look right. i become unable to properly judge a situation because I don't understand if indeed it is some kind of deep grace of God or if it is someone walking around confused and so when I see someone in confusion I would tell them good words according to my ability and heart, but i'm also aware that in being so limited that confusion can often be the outcome unless a person is wise in God.


but the important thing I think is that I must not live in the evil temptations. I don't desire them while aware of them and I don't desire them when I am unaware of them. but I keep myself hoping in God that I shall be very pure with him and I hope one day to never have any other sight but to be as Jesus was in this world, because he was the perfect human being, what better example to be?

and since those evil temptations do come up, I find it a chance of vulnerability, like a kink in my enemies armor is exposed, because they show themselves and so lots of times when evils occur within me I will cry out to God or I try to have nothing to do with the evils. and further I try to process what is occurring within my body and I try to understand how I can alter it, to fit it towards something good with God. because I believe if I can alter my beliefs/perspectives and the various filters going on in my head and heart, that what was once evil becomes transformed into loving God.

because with my limited knowledge about the brain and from different people I have listened to it is seeming more and more likely that it will not take too much to alter, say intense fears I built up in my brain, to transform into something like joy or some other feeling that will move me more smoothly in and towards God. another example is that some saints fasted to be with God and this seems to have benefited them in various ways which is the entire reason they do those things, to be closer to God. or to have nothing to do with the physical sexual act, to not ever relieve the body, and this makes the sexual feelings build up and they change and you notice it was pure union-type energy that would be better used in loving God with than trying to use it for the pleasure of the body. which I hope to never please the body again in that way, because it feels so much better to use it towards God. because it helps to form attachments to God in a simple love and it becomes a kind of energy that helps us to do good to others.

so in general I wish to rearrange the systems of the body in a more appropriate manner because it seems like sin distorts and directs the body in certain unworthy of spiritual life but i notice the body can change too, and I would say Jesus Christ had a true and perfectly working body and that most humans don't have a body that is truly working like God intended it to, since God intends we be spiritual creatures.
 
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i remember some believers who always showed goodwill outwardly preaching a love to the neighbor, but were full of hatred/enmity inside and knew many ways to curse and hurt others spiritually, even to the extent of killing someone, actually they managed to ruin many harmless people, and many were killed by them, even my mother (although they wanted from me to make her attend their temple(s) ostensibly for her own good, thank God i never brought her there), they still want to be first in the God's Kingdom by being evil as much as possible, and though they even till now brought only desolation with their religion and were sued in curt for pedophilia and many other abuses by hundreds of their ex-followers (including their ex- proselytes, brothers in faith, worshipers, and children), they continue to try inculcating their religion in the lives of all people and enslaving all humankind to their spiritual and pyramidal bondage, but intend to substitute the true Lord God with another and even with many others delivering many to the devilish spirits - full satanists, but pretending to be holiest worshipers and spiritual servants

Blessings
 
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i remember some believers who always showed goodwill outwardly preaching a love to the neighbor, but were full of hatred/enmity inside and knew many ways to curse and hurt others spiritually, even to the extent of killing someone, actually they managed to ruin many harmless people, and many were killed by them, even my mother (although they wanted from me to make her attend their temple(s) ostensibly for her own good, thank God i never brought her there), they still want to be first in the God's Kingdom by being evil as much as possible, and though they even till now brought only desolation with their religion and were sued in curt for pedophilia and many other abuses by hundreds of their ex-followers (including their ex- proselytes, brothers in faith, worshipers, and children), they continue to try inculcating their religion in the lives of all people and enslaving all humankind to their spiritual and pyramidal bondage, but intend to substitute the true Lord God with another and even with many others delivering many to the devilish spirits - full satanists, but pretending to be holiest worshipers and spiritual servants

Blessings

it would amaze me if there are people like that in the world. it is very sad that there could be souls as such. but I have heard from my brothers, whom love God very much, that human souls can degrade and become fallen powers in the world. but so too are the saints and prophets good angelic forces in the world, not to mention all the invisible and yet very real good spirits that the Lord works with to bless and not curse the world. in truth, evil is far outnumbered by the good. that is why evil so values deception and lies, because they don't have much else but empty sorrow, pain, and death.

the types of people you described need prayers more than most. they need to see the light the most. they are truly insane if they think they can have anything without real love. they are already burning in hell.

I hate how it seems that many spiritual people are really just evil, doing things so wicked that it is not worth talking about. but satan has found that it is best to attack that which would appear to supposed to be the best, as he disguises himself as an angel of light.

innocent people who diligently seek God with all they are will not be deceived. but it is up to each person to not accept the mark of the beast and to not be a harlot. God calls us to freedom. it is our responsibility. many people do not want to take up their cross and so they fall into various pits. but this all serves as a kind of light for all of us, and who among us has not fallen into various deceptions from time to time? but the Lord is good and delivers us from our enemies.

I don't believe in first or last, I only believe in the kingdom of God. and I desire to be like a child, for it is well pleasing to God. the angel of repentance told me and many others that God so loves an innocent person and that those ones are greatly blessed. so i desire to be that.
 
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i'm the opposite of what you spoke about. I like to see the good and deep spiritual truths in things that appear evil to me. God has opened my eyes many times to see true spiritual growth and development where I thought nothing could grow. so I rejoice in so many exotic foods in Christ as we feast and I desire to make a good thing that I may bless others with. to give spiritual newness and realness to whomever desires it. because I don't believe God is done pouring out his Holy Spirit upon us. and many of my brothers said that the end is going to be more blessed than the past. so i take hope in that. because the greatest darkness should have the greatest light, and the darker the darkness, the easier the light can shine.

one of the things I desire the most is to see those who where greatly evil, to then turn and be very good. so i hope those evil people do turn and see the light and if not I pray the Lord set up a remedy. because evil only spoils itself and all it touches, its only value is the rejection of it.

we must conquer evil with good, for it is very obvious by now that evil can not conquer evil. good does not conquer good either, for obvious reasons. the kingdom of caesar can not solve the problems of the world, it only knows how to be itself. the kingdom of God is the solution to everything.

and obviously innocent ones deserve people who can truly bless them. I have been very blessed with many good people in my life. I am happy that the Lord showed me that their hearts are true.
 
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what does it mean to be spiritual in this world? what is the purpose of life? what am I supposed to do in this reality and with what measurement do I measure with? what is supposed to be in this world?
 
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what does it mean to be spiritual in this world? what is the purpose of life? what am I supposed to do in this reality and with what measurement do I measure with? what is supposed to be in this world?

there should be peace and love in the world, the love is the goodness/good treatment as a whole, or as the Lord says: "Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets."(Matthew 7:12), because it even till now was a matter of choice whether or not to be good, whereas there are Holy principles of the faith, exhorting us not to do spiritual iniquity, that are not just principles, but even Commandments of God commanding us not to commit spiritual iniquity, the spiritual is (in) the basis of each thing in the universe, God is Spirit and His kingdom is Spiritual, the devil is also a spirit and its kingdom is also spiritual, that is why the spiritual iniquity is the original sin, the very sin, and even the only, because it is the cause and the source of all other evils and iniquities, and they cannot exist/live without it - this is the secret of the Gospel, because the humankind was not well-informed mostly in regard to the spiritual iniquity, for it ever was the most invisible and indistinguishable to the humans due to the fact that the spiritual is the most invisible matter and the most possessing thing, that is why the essence of the Holy law includes Commandments such as: "you must not have any god/lord(christ) but only That Who really is the true One"(Exodus 20:3), and "you must not make spiritual beliefs/wisdom/creeds/commandments and practices/activities/exercises/rituals of yourselves with/in reference to any thing either in the heaven, or on the earth, or in the sea, neither must you worship such things, nor serve them (including if they are made so by someone else/others)"(Exodus 20:4-6)

because who would prefer to be affected by something harmful, unpleasant or at least insufferable, even if someone initially agreed to suffer so?!, here is how the infliction of evil is unacceptable/unwelcome/unwanted to everyone

Blessings
 
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the darkness is freedom, it was made by God denying himself out of love. but the darkness, in being denied, has lost it's enlightenment. and so out of darkness may come anything since it is irrational. from it comes good and evil, though it would not be so if it was divine. but the darkness is not evil of itself, it is because of love and desire inside of God. darkness is a means of God revealing himself within himself, he finds his other and his other finds him and they together make the kingdom of heaven.

spiritual iniquity is anything less than God. you can not have self-love unless you count God as yourself as well, otherwise it is satanic, blind, evil that rejects God. you can not truly reject yourself if you accept God, because you reject yourself that you may be with God, thus all you rejected was anything that rejected God. because God loved us so much that he denied himself, because he had to give us freedom. but he wants a loving reflection as well. he wants our love. he deserves our love. we want his love. we deserve his love.

evil is the manifestation that says "this is what i am without you God". if it was okay and good then God would let it be forever, but it is not so, because in eternity there are three revelations and from before eternity God saw it was not good that man be alone nor did God want to be alone, because God loves man so much that he became man and he wants us to become his son in freedom, not by just necessity and lack of freedom, because if an accidental good was good enough then it would have remained forever but since God has other plans, namely, that love and freedom can not be separated, for it is unworthy of God. but God deserves to be loved freely because he freely loves.

but the sacrifice was his emptying out of himself that we become revealed within him, since we have always been super-united to God. it is strange to speak about God since his processes are not logical, as they are just what he does and is. it is reality. it is not a secondary image, though it comes out that way.

it is absurd to believe that a kingdom of evil would be forever, because it never was as God and his other would make sure of that, even if it would be allowed for the sake of freedom for a season. only the kingdom of heaven is eternal. but we have to each pick up our cross, be free and find God and be with him. because evil will be until it goes away. but there is no doubt, it was destroyed, it is contained within systems of creation, since that is as powerful as it could ever be, for God is not created, he is the creator. but evil is the degradation of the good creation, and thus it can only 'exist' if it has some goodness to parasite and distort. but goodness would never ruin itself if it was fully aware and with God.
 
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it is absolutely true that we must be with God to the utmost and no secondary thing should ever be in the way. all things are only good with God, because God is love. but evil does not know love and that is why it suffers. but God blesses our suffering and makes us whole, he comforts us and makes even our suffering and sorrow into love.
 
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