Jesus abolished the entire Old Testament.

[Steve Petersen]

NC = Jeremiah 31 thru 34.

 

[bbbbbbb]

The 10 C's are part of the NC

Nine of the C's are to be found in the New Testament, but the tenth is not mentioned, is it?

 

[bbbbbbb]

NC = Jeremiah 31 thru 34.

Amazing! You just abrogated any purpose for the New Testament. If all we needed was Jeremiah 31-34, we could have settled for an abbreviated book of Jeremiah, as well as a briefer Old Testament.

 

[listed]

I fellowship with Messianics .. IMO true Israel.

Just what I thought. You are part of a pseudo group.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Amazing! You just abrogated any purpose for the New Testament. If all we needed was Jeremiah 31-34, we could have settled for an abbreviated book of Jeremiah, as well as a briefer Old Testament.

It describes the NC.

Read before you blurt.

 

[listed]

but if Jesus has not said (for example) "Ye have heard that it hath been said (e.g. An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth) But I say unto you (e.g. That ye resist not evil)"(Matthew 5), then many could (continue to) follow the inimical ordinances of the old covenant (even including many christians), and so they would not be saved, moreover many engaged couples would be stoned to death just because they made love without having a registry marriage, and many women - just because their physical virginity could not be proven enough (because what would be e.g. if some girl unawares lost the integrity of her physical virginity(hymen) in case the law of the testament says "stone such a woman to death"(Deuteronomy 22:13-21)?!), and if the devil has not been completely and permanently cast out of the inner/domestic power of God, then it would be able to continue inculcating laws/requirements inimical to the humans in the covenant and so there would have been no New Testament i.e. perfectly good, and thus there would be no full salvation for so many people, moreover the principalities(spiritual systems) of the wicked would have the power to affect many more people with defilements such as homosexuality, psychopathy, villainy, etc. and then the greater possibility to judge them for becoming/being sinful so (just think how great guile is that)

Blessings

Well written.

It is amazing that so many are so vocal about the and physically extremely passive and unwilling to enforce it I bet even within their groups.

 

[listed]

The 10 C's are part of the NC

No more than sin. It also is mentioned.

 

[listed]

That's like saying the OC is the NC.

That is their famous claim.

 

[listed]

It describes the NC.

Read before you blurt.

Why do you not accept it?

 

[Steve Petersen]

Why do you not accept it?

Accept what?

 

[VictorC]

The 10 C's are part of the NC

Was it too hard to answer with a 'yes' or a 'no'?

You simply can't reconcile this myth with the Jewish believers having been delivered from the Mosaic covenant (Romans 7:6-7, Galatians 4:4-7) and the Gentile believers being instructed to cast off the Mosaic covenant (Galatians 4:21-30), or with Jesus taking away the Mosaic covenant to establish the new one (Hebrews 10:9).

Now a message from the memory hole, lest we forget....
Your quote from the OP of this thread:

I have just discovered that Jesus abolished the entire Old Testament, not just the law.

Your job, should you choose to accept it, is to reconcile these two quotes from you and produce a coherent conclusion that can be likewise reconciled and/or directly supported with Scripture.
Good luck, Mr Elder111.
This tape will self-destruct in five seconds.

 

[ananda]

That may be your opinion, but it is not supported in scripture.

Thank you for your opinion

Just what I thought. You are part of a pseudo group.

Thank you for your opinion

 

[VictorC]

Nine of the C's are to be found in the New Testament, but the tenth is not mentioned, is it?

Sure it is!
The quote 'You shall not covet' in Romans 7:6-7 is from Exodus 20:17 and Deuteronomy 5:21, and identifies the Law 'we' (who know the Law) have been delivered from, that held us in the past tense when this epistle was penned.

 

[bbbbbbb]

It describes the NC.

Read before you blurt.

I did read. What you posted was "NC = Jeremiah 31 thru 34." This clearly means that those chapters equal (are the same as) the NC, not that they merely describe the NC.

 

[bbbbbbb]

Sure it is!
The quote 'You shall not covet' in Romans 7:6-7 is from Exodus 20:17 and Deuteronomy 5:21, and identifies the Law 'we' (who know the Law) have been delivered from, that held us in the past tense when this epistle was penned.

I apologize for the misunderstanding. I did not mean the last of the ten C's, but the fourth commandment. In posting it I merely intended to say that nine of the 10 C's are mentioned in the new testament, but one (the fourth) is not.

 

[bbbbbbb]

Thank you for your opinion

Not my opinion, just the facts. Your opinion is not supported by scripture. If it is, please prove me wrong.

 

[Steve Petersen]

I did read. What you posted was "NC = Jeremiah 31 thru 34." This clearly means that those chapters equal (are the same as) the NC, not that they merely describe the NC.

I meant that the NC is described there.

 

[ananda]

Not my opinion, just the facts. Your opinion is not support by scripture. If it is, please prove me wrong.

Just as Jacob wrestled with God for His blessings and so earned the name "Israel", all those who earnestly wrestle with God for His blessings is true "Israel" - whether ethnically Jewish or Gentile.

 

[Cribstyl]

Just as Jacob wrestled with God for His blessings and so earned the name "Israel", all those who earnestly wrestle with God for His blessings is true "Israel" - whether ethnically Jewish or Gentile.

That's not scripture.......... Commentary is not always truth.

 

[ananda]

That's not scripture.......... Commentary is not always truth.

"I will not let thee go, except thou bless me ... And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for thou hast striven with God and with men, and hast prevailed." Gen 32:26,28

I see God clearly linking the name "Israel" with those who "strive and prevail with God" for His blessing.