Does a GLOBAL FLOOD truly seem like the BEST explanation for seashells on mountains? (2)

[ThouShaltNotPoe]

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[AV1611VET]

He has his prejudices and he is satisfied with them.

That's right -- are you satisfied with yours?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ooh, let me see if I can be first here.

Of course not. That would be silly.

ETA: Beaten by AVET. This was supposed to be an answer to the OP and finish off a very silly thread beforeit got restarted.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's right -- are you satisfied with yours?

If reality is a prejudice, then yes.

 

[AV1611VET]

And if you find that it is not your god that is ruling but the Flying Spaghetti Monster, what will you do then?

You'll still be just as wrong, won't you?

(Invoking Paschal's Wager now, are we?)

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Subduction Zone

You either belief in a weak god or a lying god.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET

I'm sure the scientists who observed Jesus dying on the Cross thought the same thing.

Mark 15:31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save.

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Bet they weren't mocking much when Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to heaven
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Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary
Jesus vs the Pharisees

LUKE 16:30 "And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.' "

Yeshua uses the last two verses of this parable as an amazing prophecy of his pending resurrection from the dead. The rich man says that although his brothers may not accept the scriptural evidence for the identity of the Messiah, they will accept the evidence of one who is raised from the dead.
But Abraham answers and plainly tells him that anyone who rejects the Bible's teaching about the Messiah will also refuse to acknowledge the evidence of a miraculous resurrection.

This last verse is a sad prophecy about the Jews who, despite God's resurrection of His son from the power of the grave, have failed to recognize Yeshua as the prophesied Messiah.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You'll still be just as wrong, won't you?

(Invoking Paschal's Wager now, are we?)

Wrong, the question was not about me, it was about you.

And I am not invoking Pascal's Wager.

Besides I have my own improved version of Pascal's Wager that leads to belief in the FSM r

 

[AV1611VET]

What scientists?

You seriously don't know what you are talking about do you?

Oh, I forgot!

They were ignorant, Bronze Age, goat herders, weren't they?

 

[AV1611VET]

Bet they weren't mocking much when Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to heaven

That's true, Steve!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Bet they weren't mocking much when Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to heaven
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Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary
Jesus vs the Pharisees



Yeshua uses the last two verses of this parable as an amazing prophecy of his pending resurrection from the dead. The rich man says that although his brothers may not accept the scriptural evidence for the identity of the Messiah, they will accept the evidence of one who is raised from the dead.
But Abraham answers and plainly tells him that anyone who rejects the Bible's teaching about the Messiah will also refuse to acknowledge the evidence of a miraculous resurrection.

This last verse is a sad prophecy about the Jews who, despite God's resurrection of His son from the power of the grave, have failed to recognize Yeshua as the prophesied Messiah.

Though Jesus very well may have been a real person the belief that he rose from the dead is about the same as believing that Elvis is flipping burgers in Wisconsin:


ELVIS’ TOMB IS EMPTY | Weekly World News

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Wrong, the question was not about me, it was about you.

And I am not invoking Pascal's Wager.

Besides I have my own improved version of Pascal's Wager that leads to belief in the FSM r

Can you post it





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[AV1611VET]

Besides I have my own improved version of Pascal's Wager that leads to belief in the FSM

I won't doubt that one bit.

After all, Nimrod had his version of Noah's account of the Flood ... replete with his "FSMs".

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I would love to see creationists try to reproduce this landform rapidly:

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This photo actually looks like rapid erosion on a large scale. Note the lack of significant wasting on the upper slopes. If the slopes had wasted away over time they would be rather smooth, lacking the definition seen here. They would have had to waste in a very uniform manner to preserve this sharp definition for millions of years.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can you post it





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Sure, it is rather simple. Since there are thousands of gods, and at the very most only one of them can be the true god, and since there is no way to really know which god is the one and only true god, if one exists, then you might as well pick the god with the best heaven. If he is the actual god you win big and if he isn't you don't lose all that much anyway.

So remember, Spaghetti and Meatballs every Friday night and don't forget the sacramental Beer and Parmesan Cheese.

R

 

[Subduction Zone]

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This photo actually looks like rapid erosion on a large scale. Note the lack of significant wasting on the upper slopes. If the slopes had wasted away over time they would be rather smooth, lacking the definition seen here. They would have had to waste in a very uniform manner to preserve this sharp definition for millions of years.

And another swing and another total miss.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

AV has expressed no interest in learning the real facts regarding the Challenger disaster and instead will continue his cruel, ghoulish grave dancing on something he doesn't understand he should either stop talking about/referring to it or expose himself for the unfeeling, ignorant monster he appears to be when making light of the deaths of seven people.

Very true. Saying dreadful things in ignorance is one thing, one can be excused that to a certain extent, but saying them repeatedly and deliberately after having chosen to remain ignorant of how shameful they are is quite another. If he ever does discover his error, his conscience will have a lot to deal with.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Sure, it is rather simple. Since there are thousands of gods, and at the very most only one of them can be the true god, and since there is no way to really know which god is the one and only true god, if one exists, then you might as well pick the god with the best heaven. If he is the actual god you win big and if he isn't you don't lose all that much anyway.

So remember, Spaghetti and Meatballs every Friday night and don't forget the sacramental Beer and Parmesan Cheese.

R

Or the worst "hell"

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

The parable of Lazarus and the rich man has been the foundation for many of the erroneous beliefs about "hell" within traditional Christianity. Some have viewed it not as a parable, but as a true story Yeshua told to give details about the punishment of sinners in hell.

Yet a thorough, unbiased examination of this story will show that the generally accepted interpretations of this passage of Scripture are erroneous and misleading. In this article, we will go through the parable verse by verse to determine what the Messiah was truly teaching.............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GCSWEgZT94

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[Subduction Zone]

Or the worst "hell"

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

The parable of Lazarus and the rich man has been the foundation for many of the erroneous beliefs about "hell" within traditional Christianity. Some have viewed it not as a parable, but as a true story Yeshua told to give details about the punishment of sinners in hell.

Yet a thorough, unbiased examination of this story will show that the generally accepted interpretations of this passage of Scripture are erroneous and misleading. In this article, we will go through the parable verse by verse to determine what the Messiah was truly teaching.............

"Fire" -- I am the god of hellfire! (1968) by Arthur Brown ~ new video - YouTube

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I have a lot of trouble believing in a god that evil.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I have a lot of trouble believing in a god that evil.

I would prefer "Hell" to the eternal (or even temporal) presence of such a god.

 

[AV1611VET]

I would prefer "Hell" to the eternal (or even temporal) presence of such a god.

If God doesn't exist because of the Holocaust, does God exist because of Purim?