Where is your evidence creationists?

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Yes, and instead of spreading the gospel, you come here and tells every "infidel" to just shut up. Very Christian message. When sinners go to your church do you turn them away too?

Depends whether they've turned up just to start an argument...
 
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eh,???
I quite literally don't understand your point...

Please correct me if I am wrong, but this is what I am getting from this discussion: you said you don't welcome atheists if they are there to start arguments. I am saying that if an atheist goes to a church and doesn't start an argument, he is not an atheist, but someone that converted before going to church. So to me, really what you are saying is that you don't welcome anybody that is not a Christian already.
 
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Please correct me if I am wrong, but this is what I am getting from this discussion: you said you don't welcome atheists if they are there to start arguments. I am saying that if an atheist goes to a church and doesn't start an argument, he is not an atheist, but someone that converted before going to church. So to me, really what you are saying is that you don't welcome anybody that is not a Christian already.

Ok. I'm not saying that.

Outside of "normal" church services we often have mid-week discussion groups to discuss common objections to "religion", God and Christianity.

I personally would welcome any atheist and their opinions to this - no problem.

So are you interested in coming to church then?
 
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Ok. I'm not saying that.

Outside of "normal" church services we often have mid-week discussion groups to discuss common objections to "religion", God and Christianity.

I personally would welcome any atheist and their opinions to this - no problem.

So are you interested in coming to church then?

Excellent, believe it or not, I go at least once a month. I rather enjoy the fellowship. I guess that if mdancin4theLord was in the church that I go to, she would be trying to kick me out of there too and say that it was only for "Christians"...
 
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Excellent, believe it or not, I go at least once a month. I rather enjoy the fellowship. I guess that if mdancin4theLord was in the church that I go to, she would be trying to kick me out of there too and say that it was only for "Christians"...


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I just love the way evolutionists actually demonstrate that evolutionary woffle has any substance after 150 years or more of instability and falsifications. Any faith, including TOE, based on evolutionary woffle is doomed to fail, I am afraid. The evolutionary garbage bin of delusions past is 'proof' of it.
 
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I just love the way evolutionists actually demonstrate that evolutionary woffle has any substance after 150 years or more of instability and falsifications. Any faith, including TOE, based on evolutionary woffle is doomed to fail, I am afraid. The evolutionary garbage bin of delusions past is 'proof' of it.

Don't you get tired of spreading lies around?
 
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I love seeing atheists on Christian forums. It says alot about the quality of their life.......

You are absolutely correct.


I mean why on earth would an athiest hang here for years...and years debating that which they find untrue......I don't get it.

I would never waste my time on some athiest website.
 
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I mean why on earth would an athiest hang here for years...and years debating that which they find untrue......I don't get it.

I would never waste my time on some athiest website.

o·pen-mind·ed. adj. Receptive to new and different ideas or the opinions of others.
 
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That's cute. You guys all banding together to rip a concept you don't understand and refuse to try to understand because you think it's evil. Aw...

Except, here's the thing... I'm more right than you are. And even if I'm someday proven wrong I'm still more right than you are. That's not an opinion or boasting. It's a proven fact. If you can prove you're reading these words then I can prove I'm more right than you are because only if the world exists in such a state that we're not really communicating by these words is it possible that I'm not more right than you are.


This post hilarious.......Your more right than we are.......yea.

Then you tell me what that first cause is......what is it? It is not a proven fact and you are naive if you think so.

The only think your right about is your need to hang around with Christians on a Christian website. Now that says a lot...........hahaha

It means to me at least.....your not so sure...or you have no life.....or you want to just be cruel and mean and horrible to people who happen to believe in God. Is your life so empty that you have to make pot shots at ours?

You know I am going to share my day...

Today a close friend of mine died. Her name was Marie and she was my brother in laws mother...she was like a mother to me after mine died. She had an orange sized cancerous tumor in her brain and went in one week. She went to be with the Lord today at 3:15. The whole family was there and we prayed and talked about her life...until she took her last breath. For the life of me...I can't understand people who just think that this life is all there is. They can't prove there is no after life...but for them...everything ends...the end of the road...hitting the wall...emptiness...thats it. What do you say to a dying person for comfort ? Hey your done..nice knowin ya will never see ya again. The mothers and fathers who lose children...what do they think, say? What an empty and sad worldview...I can think of nothing more sad than following a belief system that excludes God. Where is the meaning in pain and loss for the athiest? Will athiesm give hope to anyone? And where is antitheism when it hurts?
The only hope that makes sense come from God...the hope for life after death. Where there is no answer for death, hopelessness invades life.
 
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o·pen-mind·ed. adj. Receptive to new and different ideas or the opinions of others.

Open minded? Oh yea right. I know of one athiest I have met on here that has been actually very very nice and respectful of my faith.
 
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The thing is, you're wrong.

Over those 150 years many aspects of evolution have been shown to be innacurate, but those are absolutely dwarfed by the things that have been verified.
That is incorrect. Everything within evolutionary science has been falsified to give rise to new ideas. Extrapolations of adaptation have been speculated to demonstrate a mouse deer can poof into a whale.
Evolution can be used to make predictions - for example, Darwin himself predicted the existence of a genetic code some 100 odd years before DNA was discovered. (Well, it had been discovered before but no one knew what it was... and we probably still wouldn't if not for Darwin.).
TOE has no predictive ability eg Y chromosome, chaos theory
It has been used to determine - with immense accuracy - where certain fossils will be found, for example the fossils of Titkaalik Roseae.
Tiktaalic has been falsified as the first landing by tetrapod footprints dated to 395mya, much like, coelecanth the walking fish that is not walking anywhere, much to evolutionists embarassment. If coelecanth had not been found alive they would still be shoving it down creationists throats.
It's been verified over and over again with such predictions, as well as countless other things such as ERV markers, vestigal organs, clear fossil progression from increasingly more ancient species, the list goes on.
Vestigal organs have been falsified eg Appendix one of your best examples. The definition of vestigal organ has been changed to suit from a similar organ with NO function to a similar organ with different function

ERV's have turned mankind into a walking virus and gone from non functional throwing ridicule at creationists to erv functionality being found. How does an entire viral sequence cross the germ line and not kill the organism? It doesn't. There is no clear fossil progression. There is chaos

Almost everyone in any field of biology will refer to the Theory of Evolution as "The Unifying Theory of Biology.".
It is the unifying theory of delusion
The fact is, every aspect of biology is linked together through evolution - EVERY aspect. It unifies biology on more levels thn you can clearly comprehend.
It is a unity of delusion and misrepresentation
But, then, you'll stick your fingers in your ears and sing "Lalalalalalalala!" and intentionally fail to understand it simply because it disagrees with your stone-age religious "woffle".
Evolutionists are the ones in La La land
As for the relatively miniscule, and mostly arbitrary, aspects of evolution that have been falsified, well... that was 150 years ago, expecting Darwin to get it perfect, spot on, first time is like saying gravity is wrong because Newton didn't understand the Theory of Relativity.
You evos are more confused than Darwin with more questions than answers
What we have gotten wrong we've corrected, and that's only served to strengthen and validate the theory.
Rubbish
I'm afraid - for all you creationists - as time goes on our understanding of evolution will only increase as we discover more, and refine the theory to be more accurate and you'll be made to look more the fool by saying things like "Any faith, including TOE, based on evolutionary woffle is doomed to fail".
TOE is worse than it ever was
For example, do you know why you have to have a flu jab every year? Because the flu virus evolves - and so to must the vaccine.
and they remain virus. Adaptation is not evolution my dear. Adaption is not anti creationist. You lot speculate and call that fact.
Do you know why you have to complete an entire course of anti-biotics in order for it to work? Because you have to make sure you wipe out the entire infection, any of it survives and itevolves to become immune to that anti-biotic, meaning you'd have to take another course of a completely different anti-biotic.
Woffle and desperation trying to believe a bacteria will sprout legs.
You see, evolution is used in the medical field on a daily basis, it has to as diseases and viruses evolve so to must our means of treating them.
Rubbish


The day evolutionists peered into the complexity of the cell was the day you lot should have realized there must be a God and abiogenesis was a delusion.

Amino acids are required for life and metabolism and will never poof into a complex factory which requires the sum of its parts to survive and multiply.
 
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This post hilarious.......Your more right than we are.......yea.

Then you tell me what that first cause is......what is it? It is not a proven fact and you are naive if you think so.

The only think your right about is your need to hang around with Christians on a Christian website. Now that says a lot...........hahaha

It means to me at least.....your not so sure...or you have no life.....or you want to just be cruel and mean and horrible to people who happen to believe in God. Is your life so empty that you have to make pot shots at ours?

You know I am going to share my day...

Today a close friend of mine died. Her name was Marie and she was my brother in laws mother...she was like a mother to me after mine died. She had an orange sized cancerous tumor in her brain and went in one week. She went to be with the Lord today at 3:15. The whole family was there and we prayed and talked about her life...until she took her last breath. For the life of me...I can't understand people who just think that this life is all there is. They can't prove there is no after life...but for them...everything ends...the end of the road...hitting the wall...emptiness...thats it. What do you say to a dying person for comfort ? Hey your done..nice knowin ya will never see ya again. The mothers and fathers who lose children...what do they think, say? What an empty and sad worldview...I can think of nothing more sad than following a belief system that excludes God. Where is the meaning in pain and loss for the athiest? Will athiesm give hope to anyone? And where is antitheism when it hurts?
The only hope that makes sense come from God...the hope for life after death. Where there is no answer for death, hopelessness invades life.

Some of this lot aren't even employed. They are here day in and out. What a life getting onto Christian and theist forums and going on with the same old gobble going on about outdated evo support eg Tiktaalic. Many are fanatical.

They are here to preach their philosophy of naturalism. They are not open minded and have lost all power of observation.

At least theist evolutionists have belief in God. Most of the time it is one creationist having to deal with a plethora of atheists, some of which pop in going over the same old evo arguments.

I see the evidence for creation, no matter which variety, is the irreduceable complexity of a living cell eg Bacteria. Naturalists suggest dead elements poofed into a complex factory. Creationists believe the power of God created.

Of the two I see creationists having the upper hand.
 
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I mean why on earth would an athiest hang here for years...and years debating that which they find untrue......I don't get it.

I would never waste my time on some athiest website.


The head and developmental psychology is my baby and there is something terribly amiss with the life of someone that has nothing better to do than hang around forums delighting in the ridicule of theists.

I would recommend getting a life also.
 
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Don't you get tired of spreading lies around?


No I am sick of waiting for you lot to actually refute my post that strongly suggests evolutionist have no idea what they are talking about.

There was one attempt but that failed badly. You lot should not bring up your mistakes...it just makes it too easy......eg Tiktaalic, vestigal organs, ervs, LUCA, 200 years of evo theory, all of which and much more just opens the door to debunking evolution.

Better still, all of you should not speak to any evidence for evolution because it can be trampled so easily. You lot are better off keeping evo supports out of any discussion about evolution and sticking to "It all evolved because we said so".......That at least is unfalsifiable.
 
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