Assault on marriage!!!

[Carey]

The confusion I have is that Jesus was entirely divine, and entirely man. Not half and half. That's just not reflective of scripture.

Anistrum, I'll get to your points later.

Please quote the scripture you are referring to and I will explain.

 

[CoreyTheMagnificent]

I was not dodging, thought i answered it.

Unnatural man-made objects are not wrong unless, as you put it, negatively affects the world. Unnatural relationships cannot be compared to Unnatural devices. The Unnatural relationship is not as God had intended it to be. We may have similar characteristics as animals, but are made to find relationships with opposite gender to have romantic relations. That is NATURAL...

What animals supposedly have homosexual acts, again? I have heard but do not remember.

You are right the Bible is my foundation. I am asking... what is your foundation for making Homosexuality RIGHT???

Homosexuality is wrong, I thought that was clear... the person is in sin. As scripture states it is unnatural relationship, and in God's eyes they are being in a wicked relationship. It saddens God's heart, and I am sadden aswell. As I said before I hate the sin, not the person.

Okay okay, I thought the point you were trying to make about homosexuality is that it is wrong because they are doing something that would appear to be against what your God wanted and is an artificial. That was why I asked the question about the kid without legs, to me the scenario that I presented is the same type of deal, but it isn't to you; that's good enough for me.

Here is a link to an old National Geographic article about gay animals http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
Like I said, this article is a little old, so there may be more info out there, I'm just in a hurry.

At this point in my life to decide what is right and wrong I think of what negatively affects the world. Considering the current population issues homosexuality is obviously not a case of this.

I understand that you feel this way because of your religion, and that is fine, but why is the Christian community so split on this?

Dude, your red text hurts my eyes and makes you seem very angry hahaha. Whenever I read your posts it feels like I am being yelled at.

 

[CoreyTheMagnificent]

Who are to judge my relationship with my goat??

You knw our relationship asside from the sex is quite fulfilling thank you. And what we do behind closed doors is our own affair.

Carey I think you are just messing with me and it is funny and all, but in case you are serious please just follow my line of logic from previous posts and ask a specific question.

 

[Carey]

Carey I think you are just messing with me and it is funny and all, but in case you are serious please just follow my line of logic from previous posts and ask a specific question.

Do you think we should act like dumb animals?? Apes
maybe??


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[CoreyTheMagnificent]

Because we all know that only dumb animals have sex, eat, sleep, fight, communicate, and ect.

 

[Ainustorm]

Okay okay, I thought the point you were trying to make about homosexuality is that it is wrong because they are doing something that would appear to be against what your God wanted and is an artificial. That was why I asked the question about the kid without legs, to me the scenario that I presented is the same type of deal, but it isn't to you; that's good enough for me.

Here is a link to an old National Geographic article about gay animals http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
Like I said, this article is a little old, so there may be more info out there, I'm just in a hurry.

At this point in my life to decide what is right and wrong I think of what negatively affects the world. Considering the current population issues homosexuality is obviously not a case of this.

I understand that you feel this way because of your religion, and that is fine, but why is the Christian community so split on this?

Dude, your red text hurts my eyes and makes you seem very angry hahaha. Whenever I read your posts it feels like I am being yelled at.

Sry... red stands out better for me. I can clearly see what I said faster. No, it is not red bc I am mad, lol Blue is ok, but red was better. But i did think that mayb someone might take it that way. SORRY!

 

[Carey]

Because we all know that only dumb animals have sex, eat, sleep, fight, communicate, and ect.

Yep they role in fowl smelling things , eat dung, smell each other behinds, pic fleas off each other and eat them giving them tapeworms,etc.

So I guess we should adopt some of their bad habits as long as they make us feel good while doing them.

I understand theri are people that like many dogs have an attracion to dung.

 

[Ainustorm]

Because we all know that only dumb animals have sex, eat, sleep, fight, communicate, and ect.

The problem Corey is, Carey and I see that it is ok to be homosexual because they "find" Homosexuality in animals. So we should be like the animals ?

 

[Candide]

Please quote the scripture you are referring to and I will explain.

Oooor, you could post your scripture. I'm sorry, but I've never seen a verse saying that Jesus was half man half God, and I'd be very intrigued if you could find one.

 

[CoreyTheMagnificent]

The problem Corey is, Carey and I see that it is ok to be homosexual because they "find" Homosexuality in animals. So we should be like the animals ?

I like your blue text, very soothing .

What I am trying to say is that humans are like animals in many ways and homosexuality is just one of them and should not be considered any different than the other habits we share with animals.

 

[Carey]

Oooor, you could post your scripture. I'm sorry, but I've never seen a verse saying that Jesus was half man half God, and I'd be very intrigued if you could find one.

Did Jesus have a human mother/???The scripture says so.

Did Jesus bleed?? The scripture says so.

Did Jesus die ?? the scripture says so.

Can the divine die.??????

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Oooor, you could post your scripture. I'm sorry, but I've never seen a verse saying that Jesus was half man half God, and I'd be very intrigued if you could find one.

"The Father and I are one." Jesus in John's Gospel

 

[Candide]

Right. So that would suggest, that Jesus and God are....ONE. Not two. Right? Right.

 

[Carey]

"The Father and I are one." Jesus in John's Gospel

Together we stand divided we fall.

My families moto too

 

[Carey]

Right. So that would suggest, that Jesus and God are....ONE. Not two. Right? Right.

Or that God the head, the Dad, masuline figure of his family are a single unit like families should be.

 

[Candide]

But that makes no sense. How can you just say that the Bible is saying something that it isn't saying, while saying that those who prefer to allow historical context, etc. influence their interpretation of scripture (specifically concerning homosexuality) are wrong?

 

[CoreyTheMagnificent]

Together we stand divided we fall.

My families moto too

This is so clearly an individual interpretation it's ridiculous!
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[Carey]

But that makes no sense. How can you just say that the Bible is saying something that it isn't saying, while saying that those who prefer to allow historical context, etc. influence their interpretation of scripture (specifically concerning homosexuality) are wrong?

It is common sense when it says the Father and I are one does not mena literally.
When he prayed he would have been praying to himselfif he were literally one.

When a husband wife become one flesh like the Bible says do they become adjoined twins??

Here is proof Jesus is not and never was God .

1 Corinthians 15 : 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own turn: Christ,
( was resurrected already ) the firstfruits;( will be resurrected at Christs return ) then, when he comes, those who belong to him.( at the Judgement) 24Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father( because he is not God the father ) after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25For he ( JESUS )must reign until he ( JESUS )has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For he ( JESUS )"has put everything under his feet."[c] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself,( WHO JESUS IS NOT ) who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son ( JESUS )himself will be made subject to him ( GOD )who put everything under him, so that God ( THE FATHER WHO JESUS IS BOT )may be all in all.

 

[CoreyTheMagnificent]

So who is jesu-wait! What was this thread about?

 

[gwynedd1]

It is common sense when it says the Father and I are one does not mena literally.
When he prayed he would have been praying to himselfif he were literally one.

When a husband wife become one flesh like the Bible says do they become adjoined twins??

Here is proof Jesus is not and never was God .

1 Corinthians 15 : 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own turn: Christ,
( was resurrected already ) the firstfruits;( will be resurrected at Christs return ) then, when he comes, those who belong to him.( at the Judgement) 24Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father( because he is not God the father ) after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25For he ( JESUS )must reign until he ( JESUS )has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For he ( JESUS )"has put everything under his feet."[c] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself,( WHO JESUS IS NOT ) who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son ( JESUS )himself will be made subject to him ( GOD )who put everything under him, so that God ( THE FATHER WHO JESUS IS BOT )may be all in all.

Carey,

That is a bomb shell. Jesus is not God?

We have John 8

Your ancestor Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day; he saw it and was glad.’ 57Then the Jews said to him, ‘You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?’* 58Jesus said to them, ‘Very truly, I tell you, before Abraham was, I am.’ 59So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.

And Isaiah 9

6For a child has been born for us,
a son given to us;
authority rests upon his shoulders;
and he is named
Wonderful Counsellor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

As just a start.

Most people seem confused about how there can be two manifestations of God. That is because they have not thought about it. My hand is me but less than the rest of me and conforms perfectly to my will. Jesus is the begotten Son of God
meaning He comes from the stuff of God and is not created. However all things have lessor and greater elements of themselves such as my foot verse my head. My head is greater than my foot and yet are one. God is identified by the single uncreated Will and Jesus is part of this.