Is homosexuality an Abomination before the Lord?

[Latreia]

BTW please dont leave unfriendly comments in my rep feature...thank you

Agreed, you don't recognize a Christian in shock and anguish reaching out to you.

This is where I get out of your way.

 

[ReformedChapin]

ok...

 

[Lisa0315]

No analysis needed here. THIS is what is wrong with US. I tell you what. I am very tired of all this backbiting personally. I just cannot understand how some can recognize what they have done and quit and others just continue on and on.

I mean it is like I don't know who is my friend here anymore. Tomorrow you may be hating on me. Next day, you may think I am plum sugar.

Why can't we disagree without it getting personal? I don't care who started it in what thread or who is at fault.

I love all of you. I just don't understand any of you anymore.

It is like my brains say, "Leave, Lisa!", but my heart tells me to stay. I feel like I am being pulled into pieces here.

Lisa

 

[GreenMunchkin]

Please, keep it on topic or we'll have to close the thread.


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[WolfBitnGodSmittn]

Would be interesting to know who voted no, homosexuality is not an abomination.

o well

 

[WolfBitnGodSmittn]

Jim i am curious, do you think we should ordain homosexual clergy, or disallow an ordination based upon their practice?

 

[desmalia]

Agreed, you don't recognize a Christian in shock and anguish reaching out to you.

This is where I get out of your way.

In all fairness, it can be hard to tell the difference at times between someone who is in shock and anguish, and someone who is baiting and then playing the victim.

Either way, the Ignore button is a powerful tool.

 

[Time2BCounted]

What make you think that person is not saved?

Only God can judge a person's heart. The REAL thief is in our hearts. In Proverbs 21:2 "People may think they are doing what is right, but the Lord examines the heart." (NLT). The heart is where God meets us because that is where we make our decisions. I often use my role-model, David, who was never perfect and was a sinner as I am but at the same time, God announced that David was after God's heart. "David son of Jesse is a man after my own heart, for he will do everything I want him to do." Acts 13:22 & 1 Samuel 13:14 (NLT). God meets us in our heart rather than our mind therefore we need to focus on the "heart of the matter".

No Church, No Denomination, No pastors or anyone (including you) can tell me whether I am saved or not. Only the Holy Spirit who able to convict me of my salvation.

So you are argueing that a practicing homosexual is saved... this is not a conservative doctrine at all, you are running contrary to conservative doctirne in my opinion...

Is there a second to this or am i missing something lol

 

[desmalia]

So you are argueing that a practicing homosexual is saved... this is not a conservative doctrine at all, you are running contrary to conservative doctirne in my opinion...

Is there a second to this or am i missing something lol

I'm not sure that's exactly what he's saying. For clarification, I will try asking this: Jim, would you agree that willfully continuing in ongoing sin is potential evidence of an unregenerate heart?

Obviously it's not our job to condemn anyone to hell. However, when we see evidence of unrepentant ongoing sin, we are commanded to treat the person as an unbeliever, in effort to guide them to the truth (this is biblical love). Would you agree with that?

 

[Vambram]

Well, lets see if the term, "a practicing homosexual" can be defined a bit more clearly.
Does the phrase only mean, "someone whom struggles with homosexuality, and often falls to that temptation of the flesh and sins?"

Or is the phrase "a practicing homosexual" better and more accurately defined as someone whom not only regulary engages in homosexual acts, but also believes that there is absolutely nothing at all wrong or sinful with homosexual acts?

 

[Lisa0315]

So you are argueing that a practicing homosexual is saved... this is not a conservative doctrine at all, you are running contrary to conservative doctirne in my opinion...

Is there a second to this or am i missing something lol

nm
Lisa

 

[Time2BCounted]

Well, lets see if the term, "a practicing homosexual" can be defined a bit more clearly.

Or is the phrase "a practicing homosexual" better and more accurately defined as someone whom not only regulary engages in homosexual acts, but also believes that there is absolutely nothing at all wrong or sinful with homosexual acts?

Not one who struggles against the thought, but one who practices the deed or even relishes the thought. One who justifies the rebellion as opposed to one who turns from it

 

[Rhamiel]

Lisa said

It is sin but it is but one sexual sin and is no worse than all other sexual sin. The problem seems to be that GLBT's want it to be classified as something other than sin.

Lisa

well said Lisa, i think of it as bad a sin as fornication, it is interesting how much some people are agianst homosexual acts but look the other way with heterosexual fornication

 

[simmeringabsolute]

Yes, it is, as with other sins. The act should be condemned lovingly and mercifully, but forcefully. Homosexuals who call themselves brethren who are confronted and continue in such behavior should not be associated with by other Christians.

The homosexual agenda that calls the sin normal, acceptable, and a laudable means of self-identification should be fought with all our strength, lest we let its success cause many other brothers and sisters to fall into the clutches of Satan, as so many have due to past agendas relating to heterosexual fornication and adultery.

 

[Vambram]

Lisa said
well said Lisa, i think of it as bad a sin as fornication, it is interesting how much some people are agianst homosexual acts but look the other way with heterosexual fornication

Please do not assume that those of us here whom are talking about the sin of homosexuality "look the other way" concerning fornication and other heterosexual sins. I ask this because I know that I don't look the other way when it comes to heterosexual sins. Also, I believe that one of the main reasons Homosexuality and homosexual sins are often a hot topic is because that there is a relatively outspoken minority of Gays and Lesbians in this world whom have pushed and promoted their agenda so effectively over the last couple of decades, in that it is not extremely common for Americans and other people around the whole world ((including many many various churches)) to accept and also really believe that homosexuality & homosexual sins are indeed NOT sinful, but instead perfectly acceptable to the Lord GOD.

 

[desmalia]

Lisa said
well said Lisa, i think of it as bad a sin as fornication, it is interesting how much some people are agianst homosexual acts but look the other way with heterosexual fornication

That is unfortunate indeed if some people do that. I haven't seen it too much though. Homosexual sin seems to be just more of a hot button issue, so it may appear that some consider it to be worse than other sexual sins, when in fact they may not at all. I do believe it is a more complicated issue, however, because so many gay people self identify with the sin. Adulterers don't generally do that. ya know?

 

[HisKid1973]

BTW please dont leave unfriendly comments in my rep feature...thank you

Now that is rude and immature...

 

[Time2BCounted]

How do you know its rude and immature? Why do you come in to judge something you know nothing about in another persons home, when you have no idea what its about? lol

This is MY home and i know nothing about it except to say its not my business

 

[MrJim]

How do you know its rude and immature? Why do you come in to judge something you know nothing about in another persons home, when you have no idea what its about? lol

This is MY home and i know nothing about it except to say its not my business

I think he was commenting against the folks leaving unfriendly comments on NG's rep feature...

 

[nyj]

I think he was commenting against the folks leaving unfriendly comments on NG's rep feature...

I think so too.

I guess this is a lesson we should learn:
1. We need to be more careful in how we respond to things ... make our point clearly.
2. We need to seek confirmation, and ask questions before assuming we know what the person we're quoting intended.

If we can do these two things, we'll go a long way to having more productive conversations, and less strife.