Is homosexuality an Abomination before the Lord?

[pgp_protector]

If in the question you're asking about the sexual act itself, then yes.
If in the question you're asking about the attraction / orientation, then no.

 

[SolomonVII]

Amen i agree

I voted yes, God condemns homosexuality and calls it an abomination.

Homosexuality therefore is not acceptable before God, but the homosexual can repent and be as saved as any adulterer or glutton or thief or any sinner.

All sin is rebellion against God, but the blood of God was shed to recover and restore those who repent and believe no matter the depth of their sin as long as the Holy Spirit is not blasphemed.

Some churches may preach differantly, but God has been consistant from the old testament to the new saying...

Romans 1
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.
29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.



i have to side with the scriptures

You feel no need to qualify what you are saying, Time, by pointing out the myriad of other things that are classified as sins as well?

What makes you so different?

 

[MrJim]

...this is a "Lord hath said" passage...

Ezek 22:11 And one hath committed abomination with his neighbour' wife; and another hath lewdly defiled his daughter in law; and another in thee hath humbled his sister, his father' daughter.

So while homosexuality is an abomination, so is "plain old" adultery...what moves something from simply sin (if there is such a thing) into "abomination" class?

 

[SolomonVII]

If in the question you're asking about the sexual act itself, then yes.
If in the question you're asking about the attraction / orientation, then no.

Am am asking for your vote on the phrase itself, without any qualifications.

 

[pgp_protector]

Am am asking for your vote on the phrase itself, without any qualifications.

The phrase itself is a phrase, and not a sin.

 

[Lisa0315]

Being attracted so the same sex is a sin, but is likely the result of our fallen nature rather than committing the sin itself. One cannot help the fallen nature. One can turn their lives over to Jesus Christ to overcome the old man.

Lisa

 

[SolomonVII]

Should have made the vote public, it doesn't matter if you say "CC's only."

I rely on the honor system. Anyone that is not a CC and votes anyways dishonors themselves, in their own eyes alone.

I have no desire to see someone dishonoring themselves.

 

[JimfromOhio]

...this is a "Lord hath said" passage...

Ezek 22:11 And one hath committed abomination with his neighbour' wife; and another hath lewdly defiled his daughter in law; and another in thee hath humbled his sister, his father' daughter.

So while homosexuality is an abomination, so is "plain old" adultery...what moves something from simply sin (if there is such a thing) into "abomination" class?

You made a good point. To me, ALL sins are abominations to God. We must be careful about how we react to the sins of others. We must not accuse others of things we are uninformed about that we are to examine ourselves to GOD. Self-righteousness is terrible among Christian community because it is very naturally that we judge everyone by what/who we are because it is usually smug satisfaction with self (make them look better than others).

 

[ReformedChapin]

I rely on the honor system. Anyone that is not a CC and votes anyways dishonors themselves, in their own eyes alone.

I have no desire to see someone dishonoring themselves.

Honor system doesn't work with liberals

 

[Time2BCounted]

...this is a "Lord hath said" passage...

Ezek 22:11 And one hath committed abomination with his neighbour' wife; and another hath lewdly defiled his daughter in law; and another in thee hath humbled his sister, his father' daughter.

So while homosexuality is an abomination, so is "plain old" adultery...what moves something from simply sin (if there is such a thing) into "abomination" class?

Wouldnt it be true that all rebellion against God is an abominable thing in His sight?

Some sins might seem more or less socially acceptable in the opinions of some, but this has nothing to do with how God may detest it.

 

[JimfromOhio]

Honor system doesn't work with liberals

You assume so.

 

[JimfromOhio]

Wouldnt it be true that all rebellion against God is an abominable thing in His sight?

Some sins might seem more or less socially acceptable in the opinions of some, but this has nothing to do with how God may detest it.

Depending how "YOU" define sins rather than God defining.

I truly think you want to add to God's laws and make it tougher.

That's being truly honest and blunt. Forgive me but I needed to say it.

 

[ReformedChapin]

You assume so.

I didn't know blasphemers had honor...

 

[SolomonVII]

Being attracted so the same sex is a sin, but is likely the result of our fallen nature rather than committing the sin itself. One cannot help the fallen nature. One can turn their lives over to Jesus Christ to overcome the old man.

Lisa

It is an interesting question as to whether the sin lies in the act itself, or if the adultery is already committed in the heart, so to speak, before any act is even committed.

I think, if I am not mistaken, that the Catholic Church teaches the attraction itself to be an aberration, almost a medical or "fallen nature" sort of statement, and the actual sin comes about through the act itself.

Thanks for the reply before this, btw. Some acronyms leave me baffled.

 

[LilLamb219]

Warnings & Infractions are now effective.

Please do not cut down other members when posting. Keep your postings on topic and remember to keep the new rules in mind as you post. I'd rather not close yet another thread today because of constant bickering.

 

[WolfBitnGodSmittn]

You feel no need to qualify what you are saying, Time, by pointing out the myriad of other things that are classified as sins as well?

What makes you so different?

HUH? lol
I didnt qualify anything i posted scripture

 

[SolomonVII]

Honor system doesn't work with liberals

Going by the results, and how many liberals were online herre when the poll was posted, it is in fact working quite well with everybody.

....which was my main point of the poll in the first place... to determine whether such a poll can be discussed here without being reported, and to determine whether or not conservatives themselves could discuss such things among themselves without foaming at the mouths.

 

[Lisa0315]

It is an interesting question as to whether the sin lies in the act itself, or if the adultery is already committed in the heart, so to speak, before any act is even committed.

I think, if I am not mistaken, that the Catholic Church teaches the attraction itself to be an aberration, almost a medical or "fallen nature" sort of statement, and the actual sin comes about through the act itself.

Thanks for the reply before this, btw. Some acronyms leave me baffled.

No probs. Many of my personal beliefs on subjects like this are very Catholic in flavor.

However, I also think while the innate attraction may be there, call it the seed, thinking about it, pondering it, looking at porn, experimenting, is water and fertilizer that feeds the fallen nature and results in the conception and delivery of a sin action.

So, yes, if you think and ponder and wonder and even fantasize in your heart and mind, that in of itself is sin, just like Jesus said.

I understand the humanity of it, trust me. I do know that if one does have these kinds of attractions, then, one must stay very very close to God to be delivered from the temptation.

Lisa

 

[WolfBitnGodSmittn]

Depending how "YOU" define sins rather than God defining.

I truly think you want to add to God's laws and make it tougher.

That's being truly honest and blunt. Forgive me but I needed to say it.

Isnt sin any rebellion against God, and isnt any rebellion as bad as witchcraft? Whats wrong with that definition?

 

[Annabel Lee]

Honor system doesn't work with liberals

Why do you think that?