Is homosexuality an Abomination before the Lord?

[JimfromOhio]

Again i think we must side with scripture...

John 19:11
Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.


Jesus says there are greater, and therefore lesser sins


Jim, what scripture would justify one who remains within homosexuality, still claiming salvaiton? We become new creatures, a repentant homosexual would have turned from his sin

Greater sin is rejecting Salvation. Is there any other sins greater than that?

 

[Lisa0315]

Okay, I have a question. For those who believe there are degrees of sin, is homosexuality more or less of a sin than adultery. Please explain.

Lisa

 

[ReformedChapin]

There will ALWAYS be false Christians who are within our faith and using Christianity to lead us from the truth. How you go about it is wrong. We all are bound to confront unexpected challenges that will strike us with the fear of the unknown. We have to remember that faith is effective when there is unity.

Judging based on appearance and doctrines are man-centered more than God-center. Appearance is one thing but fruit of the Spirit is the other. "You should not judge", is not the same as "fruit inspector", or "discerning true and false teachings". People who don't discern are those who are "ignorance". Its really interesting about people are mixing "judging" and "discerning". Jesus gave us the formula for finding out "false prophets," but the devil are using people to tell us we should "not judge." So people are telling us: "God didn't make you a judge so therefore do not inspect fruits." Jesus gave us wonderful examples and one of His great example is "By THEIR FRUITS you shall know them" Christians are too look at the WHOLE package of a Christian. Do not have a tunnel vision" based on their teachings alone. You need to look at their whole being. By THEIR fruits, you shall know them. The problems when we look at their fruits, we judge based on doctrine rather than spiritual salvation.

I believe that each of us, as an individual, have a responsibility before God, to determine what is true about God and also what is false. What is true about God impacts every aspect of our lives.

For AN EXAMPLE, I could even consider you a false believer because of how you believe and how you control the forum. ( I am not saying you are, but you are doing this). Using knowledge without facts can easily lead us to a clearly false conclusion. Conclusions drawn in this manner are usually overgeneralizations.

"I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch that doesn't produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more." Jesus Christ John 15:1-2

Are we allowing God's will in pruning us so we will bear more fruit?

Are we judging Christians and non-Cristians? For as we judge others so we will be judged by God. Are we heavenly minded or earthy minded? In Romans 14:5 "One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind." 1 Corinthians 10:28-29 "both for the sake of the man who told you and for conscience' sake, the other man's conscience, I mean, not yours. For why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience?" Romans 14:10 "You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat."

gee that addressed nothing of what I said...not to mention a personal adhomenim

 

[JimfromOhio]

Okay, I have a question. For those who believe there are degrees of sin, is homosexuality more or less of a sin than adultery. Please explain.

Lisa

homosexual, fornication and adultry are all equal. Sin is sin.

 

[JimfromOhio]

gee that addressed nothing of what I said...not to mention a personal adhomenim

That's my view whether you like it or not. Or didn't see it that way.

You know I am not the only one doing this.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Okay, I have a question. For those who believe there are degrees of sin, is homosexuality more or less of a sin than adultery. Please explain.

Lisa

same...both are abominations...and yes the lines aren't very clear

 

[Lisa0315]

Okay, both sides agree that sexual sin is sexual sin, so can we get back to the OP, please?

Lisa

 

[ReformedChapin]

That's my view whether you like it or not. Or didn't see it that way.

You know I am not the only one doing this.

I already knew that I just wish you would address the topic at hand and not attack me and my character.

 

[JimfromOhio]

I already knew that I just wish you would address the topic at hand and not attack me and my character.

Welcome to the club. I felt the same way today.

 

[JimfromOhio]

Okay, both sides agree that sexual sin is sexual sin, so can we get back to the OP, please?

Lisa

This is a good time to turn on the TV and watch some college FOOTBALL

 

[ReformedChapin]

Welcome to the club. I felt the same way today.

where exactly was your character attacked?

 

[JimfromOhio]

where exactly was your character attacked?

I guess you missed them or could'nt see them.

 

[ReformedChapin]

I guess you missed them or could'nt see them.

Can we stick to this thread? Or are straw mans and miss direction permitted here too?

 

[JimfromOhio]

Can we stick to this thread? Or are straw mans and miss direction permitted here too?

You know what? I am done with this thread. You can keep going.

I have had my share of problems since this morning in this forum by those who have judged me.

 

[Latreia]

Two guys arm wrestling. That's all I can see.

And for what? To prove which one is right.

At least take this rivalry to another forum, like one for Formal Debate.

Don't take down CCC this way.

 

[Lisa0315]

Two guys arm wrestling. That's all I can see.

And for what? To prove which one is right.

At least take this rivalry to another forum, like one for Formal Debate.

Don't take down CCC this way.

Amen! Let it be as it is written!

Lisa

 

[ReformedChapin]

Two guys arm wrestling. That's all I can see.

And for what? To prove which one is right.

At least take this rivalry to another forum, like one for Formal Debate.

Don't take down CCC this way.

ROFL

there is no formal debate forum...have you been there?

 

[Latreia]

And what will you do then, when there is no longer CCC for your arena?

 

[ReformedChapin]

And what will you do then, when there is no longer CCC for your arena?

wha...

 

[ReformedChapin]

BTW please dont leave unfriendly comments in my rep feature...thank you