This is Why Homosexuality is Wrong. . .

[LittleNipper]

I know this wasn't directed at me but it caught my eye. What are the mistakes that gay people have made? Its obvious what the mistakes of an adulterer are but homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. In fact, it makes people happy to marry the people they love. So what are their mistakes?

Its ridiculous to me that people can claim to know what homosexuality is about when they're not gay. There is no possible way to get inside someone's head and see if gay people are only lusting or if they're actually in love with someone of the same sex. The only way you can see this is through their actions. And when you see a gay couple leading a normal life taking care of each other, its very hard to say that is all based on lust.

Would you judge the adulterer who, steps into a relationship that belongs to another, and yet not judge the homosexual, who misapplies sex for personal satisfaction. Can you judge one and not the other?

 

[selfinflikted]

Would you judge the adulterer who, steps into a relationship that belongs to another, and yet not judge the homosexual, who misapplies sex for personal satisfaction. Can you judge one and not the other?

Stop spreading lies. You've already been corrected on your assertion that homosexuality = sex. It's not the case, i'm telling you now, so stop spreading mistruths and deceit.

 

[LittleNipper]

No, what you have trouble accepting is that I don't give a damn about what you accept or don't accept. Live your life, live it by the rules you've chosen. If you want to do so by believing in magic and invisible deities so be it. You have no right to condemn the choices I make as long as I'm not harming you. And I'm not. So what do you want? Why must you constantly try to force your belief down my throat? I don't care that you believe it and I even fight to protect your right to believe it. What makes you think that believing it gives you the right to make others live in a way that pleases you?

I have as much right to condemn your opinions and choices as you have with regard to mine. I at least have history and religious conviction to support my concerns and misgivings. I do not disregard the laws of physics either. Every choice has its consequence.

 

[PassionFruit]

Let's go over this again for those of you who don't understand:

Homosexuality can refer to both sexual behavior, sexual attraction, and romantic attachments between people of the same sex, or to a sexual orientation. When describing a sexual orientation, it refers to enduring sexual and romantic attraction toward others of the same sex, but does not necessarily involve sexual behavior.



Why is that so difficult for some people to understand?

 

[selfinflikted]

I have as much right to condemn your opinions and choices as you have with regard to mine. I at least have history and religious conviction to support my concerns and misgivings. I do not disregard the laws of physics either. Every choice has its consequence.

And the option to make that choice shouldn't be decided by you, or anyone else as long as no one is harmed by said choice. Let us deal with the "consequences", no matter how non-existant they are.

 

[naotmaa]

Would you judge the adulterer who, steps into a relationship that belongs to another, and yet not judge the homosexual, who misapplies sex for personal satisfaction. Can you judge one and not the other?

Yes because homosexuality isn't just about sexual satisfaction just as heterosexuality isn't just about sexual satisfaction. Two gay people can be in a loving relaitonship just a straight couple can. But you seem to be ignoring that.

 

[PassionFruit]

Yes because homosexuality isn't just about sexual satisfaction just as heterosexuality isn't just about sexual satisfaction. Two gay people can be in a loving relaitonship just a straight couple can. But you seem to be ignoring that.

Well my friend, people who show hostility towards homosexuality cannot understand that it is possible for them to be in a loving relationship.

 

[naotmaa]

Well my friend, people who show hostility towards homosexuality cannot understand that it is possible for them to be in a loving relationship.

True true.

 

[Phred]

I have as much right to condemn your opinions and choices as you have with regard to mine.

How does what two people do in the privacy of their own bedroom give you the right to condemn them?

I at least have history and religious conviction to support my concerns and misgivings.

Big whoop. Do you hold slaves? History and religious conviction have been wrong more than once. All that shows is that you're either stupid, stubborn or not creative enough to imagine a world that's different from the one you live in today.

I do not disregard the laws of physics either.

I didn't think you could fly.

Every choice has its consequence.

But not from you.

 

[RealityCheck]

I find it terribly funny and interesting that when put to it, LittleNipper couldn't answer my question directly.

Which means, he as much as admits that when he engages in sex, he does NOT do so for the express and sole purpose of procreation, but also for fun and recreation.

Meaning his sex life is just as "disfunctional" as everyone else's.

NEXT!

 

[GwynApNudd]

Of course men and women are sexually attracted to one another, but it doesn't stop there, there is another dimension; it's called the emotional dimension, a dimension which does not exist in the homosexual realm.

It astounds me that people who very apparently don't actually know any gay people (that they are aware of being gay) can make these bigoted pronouncements that all homosexuals are this thing or that thing, as if homosexuals were a different species or something.

Exactly. As far as MrrrrNiceGuy and people like him are concerned, gays aren't human. They are some weird foreign species. That's why they can say (just like they did about blacks) that "They don't feel the same emotions that we do, they only feel animal lust." and they can feel justified in denying them (blacks, gays) all their rights ("in their best interest," of course).

 

[WatersMoon110]

I have as much right to condemn your opinions and choices as you have with regard to mine.

Everyone has the right to an opinion. But can you actually defend yours? Because as soon as one starts with the "well I have a right to believe what I want", one is more or less admitting that they can't address the points they are replying to.

I at least have history and religious conviction to support my concerns and misgivings.

Personally, I find it horrible that anyone would use a religion of love to justify hate. I believe that Jesus the Christ (who spoke of loving thy neighbor) would agree with me on this point.

I do not disregard the laws of physics either. Every choice has its consequence.

Social dynamics do not fully operate by the laws of physics. While every choice might effect basic biological change in the mind and body of the decision maker (through response to emotional chemicals), it is an over simplification to try to apply a Fundamental Physical Law to any human action outside the realm of Science.

You might think it very profound to say, basically, "doing stuff leads to other stuff happening", but really that doesn't justify condemning people just because you appear to believe that the Christian God doesn't like what they do in their bedrooms.

 

[LittleNipper]

Everyone has the right to an opinion. But can you actually defend yours? Because as soon as one starts with the "well I have a right to believe what I want", one is more or less admitting that they can't address the points they are replying to.
Personally, I find it horrible that anyone would use a religion of love to justify hate. I believe that Jesus the Christ (who spoke of loving thy neighbor) would agree with me on this point.
Social dynamics do not fully operate by the laws of physics. While every choice might effect basic biological change in the mind and body of the decision maker (through response to emotional chemicals), it is an over simplification to try to apply a Fundamental Physical Law to any human action outside the realm of Science.

You might think it very profound to say, basically, "doing stuff leads to other stuff happening", but really that doesn't justify condemning people just because you appear to believe that the Christian God doesn't like what they do in their bedrooms.

You condemn people (like me) for only our opinions and beliefs, and yet you feel it is unjustifiable (for people like myself) to be concerned with the actions of others and to express those concerns openly.

 

[chaz345]

Personally, I find it horrible that anyone would use a religion of love to justify hate. I believe that Jesus the Christ (who spoke of loving thy neighbor) would agree with me on this point.

Maybe, maybe not. But I am pretty sure He'd be annoyed at how quick many are to throw out the hate card. Believing that homosexuality is wrong , and saying so, is not now, nor will it ever be the same as hating the person.

 

[MrrrrrNiceGuy]

Hmm. As a 52-year-old woman who never looks at pornography, I wonder what this makes me. I am a lesbian, and I have been a lesbian my entire life. But I have never had encounters with pornography.

That is a lie. Common sense says so.

 

[MrrrrrNiceGuy]

Thanks for posting this great article. Just be aware that now that Glatze has shown that homosexuality is not fixed and can be overcome, he is the #1 target by those continuing to deny that change is even possible.

I liked his quote below:

"God is regarded as an enemy by many in the grip of homosexuality or other lustful behavior, because He reminds them of who and what they truly are meant to be," Glatze wrote. "People caught in the act would rather stay 'blissfully ignorant' by silencing truth and those who speak it, through antagonism, condemnation and calling them words like 'racist,' 'insensitive,' 'evil' and 'discriminatory.'"

Well, I am glad that at least 1 other person on Christian Forums agrees with the article. Anyone else wanna give a ?

Yup, you're right. That quote adds up to the way I am being unfairly treated here, unfairly treated just for telling the truth, that is.

 

[MrrrrrNiceGuy]

Maybe, maybe not. But I am pretty sure He'd be annoyed at how quick many are to throw out the hate card. Believing that homosexuality is wrong , and saying so, is not now, nor will it ever be the same as hating the person.

Thank you for making that point. I have a cousin who is gay, but do I hate him? Absolutely not! Do I hate his sinful lifestyle? Absolutely! There's a difference.

 

[selfinflikted]

Well, I am glad that at least 1 other person on Christian Forums agrees with the article. Anyone else wanna give a ?

Yup, you're right. That quote adds up to the way I am being unfairly treated here, unfairly treated just for telling the truth, that is.

You wouldn't know "truth" if it bit you on the butt.

That is a lie. Common sense says so.

Calling someone a liar, then adding a silly emoticon after doesn't make it ok.

 

[Phred]

Thank you for making that point. I have a cousin who is gay, but do I hate him? Absolutely not! Do I hate his sinful lifestyle? Absolutely! There's a difference.

And as a result of hating his "sinful lifestyle" what will you do?

 

[chaz345]

Because as soon as one starts with the "well I have a right to believe what I want", one is more or less admitting that they can't address the points they are replying to.

Same thing can be said about one who instantly jumps to accusations of homophobia or hate.