This is Why Homosexuality is Wrong. . .

[RealityCheck]

It is the only logical purpose for sex of any kind ---- propagation of the species. Anything else is a disfunction ---- no matter how much "fun" to those participating.

I see... so you never engage in oral sex, sexual play, self-pleasure, and never ever enjoy it. Right? Because every time you have sex, you do so expressly for the purpose of having a child. Right?

 

[LittleNipper]

Homosexuality is about being attracted (physically, emotionally) to a member of the same sex... it's not that hard to understand.

No, homosexuality is about having sexual interaction with one of the same sex, as though that individual was from the opposite sex. I certainly have male friends whom I love deeply ----- I do not share sex with them. I love them far too much for that diversion.

 

[IzzyPop]

It is the only logical purpose for sex of any kind ---- propagation of the species. Anything else is a disfunction ---- no matter how much "fun" to those participating.

Good thing we are not creatures of pure logic, then. So the use of birth control is bad? I currently have 1 child and don't really want another one. Should my wife and I quit have sex?

 

[RealityCheck]

Good thing we are not creatures of pure logic, then. So the use of birth control is bad? I currently have 1 child and don't really want another one. Should my wife and I quit have sex?

Yes, according to his logic.

 

[LittleNipper]

I see... so you never engage in oral sex, sexual play, self-pleasure, and never ever enjoy it. Right? Because every time you have sex, you do so expressly for the purpose of having a child. Right?

I have sex with the full understanding that I may (LORD willing) foster a child from my interaction. Can any homosexual honestly say that?

 

[RealityCheck]

I have sex with the full understanding that I may (LORD willing) foster a child from my interaction. Can any homosexual honestly say that?

No no. My question is this: when you engage in sex, do you do so thinking "I would like to have a child, so let's have sex," or do you think, "I'd like to have some fun, a child might be the end result or might not" ?

 

[LittleNipper]

Good thing we are not creatures of pure logic, then. So the use of birth control is bad? I currently have 1 child and don't really want another one. Should my wife and I quit have sex?

I believe you should allow GOD to decide and not assume that role for yourself.

 

[RealityCheck]

I believe you should allow GOD to decide and not assume that role for yourself.

Aren't we given free will?

 

[IzzyPop]

I believe you should allow GOD to decide and not assume that role for yourself.

And given the fact that I do not believe in God, I pretty much have to assume that role for myself.

And to equate sex with only procreation is a horrible way to view sex. Why? Because I've done it both ways. Try it some time. My wife had an irregular cycle. You have to have sex whenever the thermometer says so and what you are feeling towards your partner, how your day is going, what pressures you have at work, or anything else does not matter. That is sex for procreation and I thought I would never say this, but it is bad sex. No fun most of the time. Rote, robotic, and the only goal is the end itself, not the journey to the end. (Not all the time, but enough to tarnish my view on the subject.). And then 9 months or so later you get to do it all over again to help her go into labor. But this time in awkward positions.

And this leads to another question. Once the woman is pregnant, does that mean the couple should not have sex because there is no chance of her getting pregnant?

 

[NeTrips]

Former Activist Writes About Emptiness of Homosexuality

Posted on Aug 8, 2007 | by Erin Roach

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--Even when he was deep in the sin of homosexuality, Michael Glatze knew it was wrong. And now Glatze, a former leader in the homosexual movement, is telling the story of his former life while exposing homosexuality for the empty, lustful lie it is.

"Homosexuality, delivered to young minds, is by its very nature pornographic," Glatze wrote in a column published by WorldNetDaily in July. "It destroys impressionable minds and confuses their developing sexuality; I did not realize this, however, until I was 30 years old."

Although Glatze's new religion of Mormonism denies essential elements of Christianity, his story of leaving homosexuality is nonetheless significant. The founding editor of Young Gay America magazine, Glatze declared himself "gay" at age 20, and two years later he launched an ambitious and successful career of recruiting other young men to embrace the homosexual lifestyle. A favorite interview source for major media outlets, Glatze was atop the ladder of something that was supposedly groundbreaking and invigorating. But he knew something wasn't right.

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This article obviously speaks for itself. No comment.

Thanks for posting this great article. Just be aware that now that Glatze has shown that homosexuality is not fixed and can be overcome, he is the #1 target by those continuing to deny that change is even possible.

I liked his quote below:

"God is regarded as an enemy by many in the grip of homosexuality or other lustful behavior, because He reminds them of who and what they truly are meant to be," Glatze wrote. "People caught in the act would rather stay 'blissfully ignorant' by silencing truth and those who speak it, through antagonism, condemnation and calling them words like 'racist,' 'insensitive,' 'evil' and 'discriminatory.'"

 

[Phred]

I believe you should allow GOD to decide and not assume that role for yourself.

That's what you believe. Spiffy. That's not what I or most thinking people believe. We believe it's a biological function that happens without the interference of magic beings. So how exactly does your deity cause a woman to become pregnant or not? Nevermind, you don't know. It's magic. Absolutely indistinguishable from a simple biologic function. Either the sperm meets the egg and it implants or it doesn't. But don't let that stop you from believing there are gods in your woman's womb. Let's just hope they wash their hands.

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

One word: bonobos. (As in: matriarchal apes who touch, couple and genital-rub all day long without any procreative purpose.)

Granted, men are not bonobos, and our development clearly took a different turn at some point, but the argument that sex is solely for the purpose of siring offspring is nullified by this furry little jungle-dweller, several dozen times a day.

 

[Bombila]

It's no use. It's like beating your head against a wall. Married faithful samesex couples are the most invisible people on the planet to these guys. My dear friends do not even exist as far as these prurient "gaysexislust!" ranters are concerned. Thankfully, my friends live in Canada, where homophobia is as frowned on (even if they personally think the physical part is 'icky') by the mainstream public as racism.

 

[LittleNipper]

That's what you believe. Spiffy. That's not what I or most thinking people believe. We believe it's a biological function that happens without the interference of magic beings. So how exactly does your deity cause a woman to become pregnant or not? Nevermind, you don't know. It's magic. Absolutely indistinguishable from a simple biologic function. Either the sperm meets the egg and it implants or it doesn't. But don't let that stop you from believing there are gods in your woman's womb. Let's just hope they wash their hands.

Well, well, well..... So it comes down to that. You are absolutely right. One MUST either accept that there is a GOD whom believers SHOULD trust and disbelievers ARE ignoring, OR that there is no GOD. All this nonsense, surrounding various imaginings of various gods and goddesses who really could care less about what one does sexually is simply just an excuse to engage in anything that pleasures those involved. I cannot accept that GOD is not far more superior to such notions.

 

[LittleNipper]

Aren't we given free will?

FREEWILL does not preclude RESPONSIBILITY, nor its consequences.

 

[chaz345]

One mans personal problems does not make everyone elses choices wrong, no matter how similiar.

That being the case it would be great if the personal failings of an individual, perhaps well known Christian, were not used as ammunition, often by atheists, against all of Christianity.

 

[LittleNipper]

It's no use. It's like beating your head against a wall. Married faithful samesex couples are the most invisible people on the planet to these guys. My dear friends do not even exist as far as these prurient "gaysexislust!" ranters are concerned. Thankfully, my friends live in Canada, where homophobia is as frowned on (even if they personally think the physical part is 'icky') by the mainstream public as racism.

By frowned on, do you simply mean that those that speak out could go to jail for an open opinion?

I hold fornicators and adulterers in the very same regard as I do the homomsexual who gives up. Everyone has issues and crosses to bear. Everyone makes mistakes. Mistakes are not corrected by simply ignoring them or calling them right.

 

[naotmaa]

I hold fornicators and adulterers in the very same regard as I do the homomsexual who gives up. Everyone has issues and crosses to bear. Everyone makes mistakes. Mistakes are not corrected by simply ignoring them or calling them right.

I know this wasn't directed at me but it caught my eye. What are the mistakes that gay people have made? Its obvious what the mistakes of an adulterer are but homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone. In fact, it makes people happy to marry the people they love. So what are their mistakes?

Its ridiculous to me that people can claim to know what homosexuality is about when they're not gay. There is no possible way to get inside someone's head and see if gay people are only lusting or if they're actually in love with someone of the same sex. The only way you can see this is through their actions. And when you see a gay couple leading a normal life taking care of each other, its very hard to say that is all based on lust.

 

[Phred]

Well, well, well..... So it comes down to that. You are absolutely right. One MUST either accept that there is a GOD whom believers SHOULD trust and disbelievers ARE ignoring, OR that there is no GOD. All this nonsense, surrounding various imaginings of various gods and goddesses who really could care less about what one does sexually is simply just an excuse to engage in anything that pleasures those involved. I cannot accept that GOD is not far more superior to such notions.

No, what you have trouble accepting is that I don't give a damn about what you accept or don't accept. Live your life, live it by the rules you've chosen. If you want to do so by believing in magic and invisible deities so be it. You have no right to condemn the choices I make as long as I'm not harming you. And I'm not. So what do you want? Why must you constantly try to force your belief down my throat? I don't care that you believe it and I even fight to protect your right to believe it. What makes you think that believing it gives you the right to make others live in a way that pleases you?

 

[selfinflikted]

One word: bonobos. (As in: matriarchal apes who touch, couple and genital-rub all day long without any procreative purpose.)

Granted, men are not bonobos, and our development clearly took a different turn at some point, but the argument that sex is solely for the purpose of siring offspring is nullified by this furry little jungle-dweller, several dozen times a day.

C'mon, Jane. We both know that man (and bonobos) do this because of the fall! The fall is to blame! *runs and hides*