Is Mary a source of Holiness?

[IamAdopted]

Oh man... are you afraid you are going to incriminate yourself if you just say yes?

No need to explain to me how you celebrate it..

BTW- does this explanation mean you think we honor Mary on Christmas day and not Jesus?

We don't...

It's all bout the baby in her arms.

But I must ask, at what ever church you atted on Chritamss, do they put on a play with Mary Joepsh and the baby Jesus?

No I am not afraid of what you say.. We don't focus on the birth.. We focus that we will sing Happy birthday..We do our service a bit different if Christmas is on Sunday.. We do have a Christmas Eve Service but it is more focused on why He came and when He comes again.. Not on the birth of Christ...

 

[Benedicta00]

No I am not afraid of what you say.. We don't focus on the birth.. We focus that we will sing Happy birthday..We do our service a bit different if Christmas is on Sunday.. We do have a Christmas Eve Service but it is more focused on why He came and when He comes again.. Not on the birth of Christ...

what church is this, out of curiosity?

i have never heard of any denomination who went out of their way to ignore Mary at Christmas or who ignores Christmas eve.

 

[sunlover1]

IF these things are true, they MIGHT honor her (I'm not so sure), and IF these things are false they dishonor Our Blessed Lady, offend and hurt her - and therefore her Son.


Therefore, to ME, it's not moot but critical if these things are true.



MY rather unpopular perspective.


Pax!


- Josiah



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I agree.
Good points.
I would hope we are all more concerned with truth than being 'right'!

 

[IamAdopted]

what church is this, out of curiosity?

i have never heard of any denomination who went out of their way to ignore Mary at Christmas or who ignores Christmas eve.

I am in a non denominational gathering.. A body of believers that take God at His word and put it into daily practice..

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

I have given the greek words in an above post.. These tell us the truth of the greek word.. Not someones view of them..

IAA, they will twist this till it is in a tight knot before admiting, brother is brother. Period. NOT cousin. I am done trying to convince these people. Let them believe what they want.

 

[IamAdopted]

IAA, they will twist this till it is in a tight knot before admiting, brother is brother. Period. NOT cousin. I am done trying to convince these people. Let them believe what they want.

Aye sister I can see some doing this.. Only God can change the heart.. But He can even change the heart of a King...

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

When Jesus said he will be with us until the end of time- Does that mean the time after that- he will not be with us?

WHEN is the end of time?? Time doesn't end...it goes till eternity. SO I think Jesus will be with us TILL the end of time........ya think?

 

[vrunca]

I am done trying to convince these people. Let them believe what they want.

Well that's a good thing, because you were wasting your time. We choose to respect and love instead of tear apart and demean and disrespect the Mother of God.

God Bless, you are certainly in my prayer intentions tonight!!

 

[Benedicta00]

I am in a non denominational gathering.. A body of believers that take God at His word and put it into daily practice..

Okay...

I've never hard of this before so excuse me while I take this in...

you really do not celebrate Christmas in the traditional sense? No nativity, no tree in Church, No play with a baby Jesus, no sermon about the wise men and the star in the east? or the angle singing glory to God in the highest? ...no Christmas hymns?

and if Christmas is not on Sunday, no service?

What about Easter- do you celebrate that?

 

[Benedicta00]

IAA, they will twist this till it is in a tight knot before admiting, brother is brother. Period. NOT cousin. I am done trying to convince these people. Let them believe what they want.

that's how I feel...

 

[PassthePeace1]

I give my children gifts yes. We sing happy birthday to Jesus Yes.. Do we reflect on Mary.. NO.. So I guess we celebrate it differently than some.. We look forward for His second entry into the world..

Contrary to public opinion, Catholic don't just focus only on Mary during Christmass time...it's more on the Nativity story on a whole, which is about the Holy Family...St. Joseph, St.Mary, and God Incarnate...baby Jesus.

It's a wonderful story, of obedience, trust, faith, and complete surrender to God's Will, on both the parts of Mary and Joseph.

The celebration of the Nativity Story, not only accurately retells the historic and miraculous events, of the Incarnation of God. It is also an important life lesson and model for us and our responses to God's Will in our own lives.

Peace be with you...Pam

 

[vrunca]

that's how I feel...

Don't give up on them!!! Pray for them!!! We have a lot of people praying for some of the people who are so filled with rage and hatered in here over in OBOB. Pray, pray, pray...it will work!!

 

[IamAdopted]

Okay...

I've never hard of this before so excuse me while I take this in...

you really do not celebrate Christmas in the traditional sense? No nativity, no tree in Church, No play with a baby Jesus, no sermon about the wise men and the star in the east? or the angle singing glory to God in the highest? ...no Christmas hymns?

and if Christmas is not on Sunday, no service?

What about Easter- do you celebrate that?

If Christmas is not on a Sunday we do not celebrate it at our gathering.. We do like I said have a Christmas Eve Service.. We do sing Christmas Hymms such as The little drummer boy and Songs that focus on Christ.. We do not put on Christmas Plays. Our sermon is usually preached about why Christ came into this world. We talk about His coming again and How we are to be prepared..We read the scriptures in Isaiah and the Wise men.. This last year we focused on why the birth in the stable..

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

Don't give up on them!!! Pray for them!!! We have a lot of people praying for some of the people who are so filled with rage and hatered in here over in OBOB. Pray, pray, pray...it will work!!

Number one, I am NOT filled with hate and rage thank you. SO, count me out of that prayer.

Number two, HAVE you read in any of MY posts where I have said I do not respect Mary or tore Mary apart and disrespected her??? NO???? YES, I respect what she did. THAT IS IT! Nothing more. STOP making accusations against me please and thank you. Why pray for me to respect someone I said I DO!?@? YOU are confusing me. Please, DON'T pray for me to fall into what I consider false teaching. Mary is blessed..period. THAT is it..that is what Scripture calls her..NOT Queen of heaven, queen mother..my mother adopted or otherwise...SO lets cool it with that ok? Thanks.

 

[Benedicta00]

WHEN is the end of time?? Time doesn't end...it goes till eternity. SO I think Jesus will be with us TILL the end of time........ya think?

I would appreciate it if you would tone down the hostility.

There is no "time" in eternity, that's why it's called eternity.

"time" means the here and now, this world... until his second coming.

so obviously the word 'till' signifies the limit of the appointed time but does not exclude the time thereafter.. or Christ would never have used that word.

we use this all the time in our speech too...

 

[Benedicta00]

If Christmas is not on a Sunday we do not celebrate it at our gathering.. We do like I said have a Christmas Eve Service.. We do sing Christmas Hymms such as The little drummer boy and Songs that focus on Christ.. We do not put on Christmas Plays. Our sermon is usually preached about why Christ came into this world. We talk about His coming again and How we are to be prepared..We read the scriptures in Isaiah and the Wise men.. This last year we focused on why the birth in the stable..

okay...thanks for sharing.

 

[IamAdopted]

Don't give up on them!!! Pray for them!!! We have a lot of people praying for some of the people who are so filled with rage and hatered in here over in OBOB. Pray, pray, pray...it will work!!

what would we need prayer for may I ask? We are not walking in darkness or displaying Hate.. We do uphold the word of God as truth..If you are praying that we become Catholic then you might as well save this prayer for we are founded in the word of God.. We are His by His shed Blood.. We are sealed with His Holy Spirit and we take His word as truth and protray it to the world. If we are hated for this Jesus has already promised us we would be..

 

[Uphill Battle]

I would appreciate it if you would tone down the hostility.

There is no "time" in eternity, that's why it's called eternity.

"time" means the here and now, this world... until his second coming.

so obviously the word 'till' signifies the limit of the appointed time but does not exclude the time thereafter.. or Christ would never have used that word.

we use this all the time in our speech too...

disagree on your concept of time.

Of what value is eternity, if it is not measured against time?

Eternity is the complete and nonending progression of time.

 

[IamAdopted]

okay...thanks for sharing.

Your very welcome.

 

[vrunca]

Number one, I am NOT filled with hate and rage thank you. SO, count me out of that prayer.

Number two, HAVE you read in any of MY posts where I have said I do not respect Mary or tore Mary apart and disrespected her??? NO???? YES, I respect what she did. THAT IS IT! Nothing more. STOP making accusations against me please and thank you. Why pray for me to respect someone I said I DO!?@? YOU are confusing me. Please, DON'T pray for me to fall into what I consider false teaching. Mary is blessed..period. THAT is it..that is what Scripture calls her..NOT Queen of heaven, queen mother..my mother adopted or otherwise...SO lets cool it with that ok? Thanks.

I am truly sorry that this upset you so much. Just to clarify I was speaking to Benedicta and never once mentioned you at all.

I assure you I will not mention you in my prayers tonight...but could you find it in your heart to pray for me? I would never turn away from anyone's prayers for me!! Anyone else who feels it in their hearts to pray for me, please, please do, I love knowing that I am prayed for!!