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Famed feminist website Jezebel paid witches on Etsy to curse Charlie Kirk — 2 days before he was assassinated

Feminist website Jezebel boasted that a reporter paid witches on Etsy to “curse” MAGA conservative influencer Charlie Kirk two days before he was assassinated in Utah — with the publication later forced to add an editor’s note condemning the heinous act of violence.

The unsettling article ripped the Turning Point USA founder before recounting how the unnamed reporter forked over cash for “multiple curses” on him — and expressed panic that the spells hadn’t worked.

“Are you interested in punishing Kirk for the years of regressive rhetoric he’s shouted at America’s youth and anyone within earshot?” the disturbing article read.

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The other tragedy in Charlie Kirk’s assassination

At 55 years old, I’m just young enough to have missed the 1960s. That makes Charlie Kirk’s the first high-profile political assassination of my lifetime. I can’t recall any others. Plenty of attempts but no actual assassinations. Unless you count John Lennon in 1980. But that doesn’t even come close to this. To what we are all feeling this week.

Much commentary is being written about what has been lost with Charlie’s assassination. He was a conservative in the classical liberal mode. He wanted to debate you. He believed in American ideals and wanted to inspire the next generation to fight for them—peacefully, democratically. What does it say about the state of our nation that a man like that was cut down?

There are other levels of tragedy regarding Charlie’s murder. The loss to his family. The corrupted hearts of some of the leftist media, leftist politicians, and even some of our leftist friends and neighbors, who seem to be celebrating his assassination. And more.

But I have seen very little commentary on one dimension of the tragedy. It is that the Charlie Kirk who was assassinated this week was a much better Charlie Kirk than the one who first burst onto the scene many years ago. And the conservatism for which Charlie was a pied piper to the young was a much betterconservatism than the one for which he was initially advocating.

I got into it with Charlie about all this the one time I met him. It was a chance encounter on a street corner in Washington, DC about five or six years ago. Fortunately, I was with a personal friend of Charlie’s when we bumped into him and he introduced us. I had never seen Charlie before and would not have recognized him but for our mutual friend introducing us. I recognized the name and quizzed Charlie immediately about Nick Fuentes and the Groypers.

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Charlie Kirk and His Surprising Sentiments Toward the Catholic Church

There is a lot of evidence that Charlie Kirk was leading his family towards the Catholic Church; not least of all, his public call to venerate the Mother of God.

The news of Charlie Kirk’s murder has had a shocking impact in the world of faith and politics. Known widely as a conservative activist and founder of Turning Point USA, Kirk often appeared in the public eye as a firebrand commentator, someone eager to spar in debates over politics, culture, and the future of America. Yet, beneath the sharp-edged persona, there was another side to Kirk that deserves careful reflection: his surprising sympathy for the Catholic Church and his willingness—uncommon among evangelicals—to speak with respect about its ancient treasures of faith.

Veneration of Mary

One of the most striking examples of this came when Kirk addressed the question of Mary. He began with a frank admission: “Let me first say I think we as Protestants and evangelicals under venerate Mary. She was very important. She was a vessel for our Lord and Savior.”

This was not typical evangelical rhetoric. For centuries, Protestant communities have been cautious about Marian devotion, often fearing it detracts from Christ. But Kirk’s words revealed a humility—an openness to recognize that something had been lost.

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Erika Kirk vows to carry on Charlie’s mission: ‘The movement my husband built will not die’

‘The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry'​


In an impassioned speech two days after her husband was assassinated on a college campus in Utah, Erika Kirk vowed to carry on her husband’s mission at Turning Point USA and to spread the Gospel and “make Heaven crowded.”

Speaking through tears, Charlie Kirk’s widow said when she returned home, her daughter, Gigi, asked, “Where’s daddy?”

“What do you tell a 3-year-old? She's 3,” the mother of two said mournfully. “I said, baby, daddy loves you so much. Don't you worry. He's on a work trip with Jesus so he can afford your blueberry budget.”

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin was identified Friday morning as Taylor Robinson, 22, following a 33-hour manhunt after he fled the scene at Utah Valley University in Orem, where a TPUSA event was being held.

Although the shooter’s plot was an act of evil, Erika Kirk affirmed that although she and all who loved her husband are heartbroken, she knows God will use this tragedy for good.

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Examining the Scriptures Daily

“The brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. Therefore many of them believed, along with a number of prominent Greek women and men.” (Acts 17:10-12 NASB1995)

I really like what this teaches, and I am going to tell you why I do. For one, it has to do with honor and respect. The apostles had been met with much dishonor, disrespect, persecutions, false accusations, false imprisonments, and beatings, up to this point. So it must have been refreshing for them to be treated with honor and respect and value, and to have people who would actually listen to them and take seriously what they were teaching them.

The other thing I really like about this is that the people not only listened to them and to what they were teaching, but they were diligent about testing what the apostles were teaching them, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether the things they were teaching them were true. They didn’t just write them off just because what they were teaching was new to them, but they took the time and the effort to actually check it out for themselves.

Both of these things, both the matter of showing people respect who are deserving of respect, and the matter of listening to them, and taking it seriously, and caring enough to take the time and effort to check it out, seems so lost in our culture today. So many people in our present culture are more drawn to what is entertaining and sensational and what makes them feel good emotionally, than they are to the truth of the Scriptures.

So many people today just want everything quick and easy, which is one reason why short memes are so popular these days and why we have so many people recording “short” (partial) songs, talks, and messages, because the shorter it is, the greater the audience, even if shorter is lacking in dept of knowledge, truth, and reality, etc. And even if shorter is spreading lies to the people disguised as truth, which many of them are definitely doing.

For that is what so many have done today with the gospel. They have cut it way short, thus altering it, and turning it into a lie, because the lie is what is attracting the people, because the lie convinces them that all they have to do is say they believe in Jesus and now all their sins are forgiven, and heaven is guaranteed them when they die, but regardless of how they live. But if we read the Scriptures in their context, we should see the truth.

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

The grace of God, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for Jesus’ return. For Christ “gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.” “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.” (See Titus 2:11-14; Ephesians 2:8-10)

And we learn in 1 John 1-3 that if we claim that we have fellowship with God, but yet we walk in darkness (sin), we are liars. If we claim that we know God, but we do not obey his commandments, in practice, we are liars. For it is not the one who claims he is “in Christ” who is “in Christ,” but it is the one who has denied self, died with Christ to sin, and who is now walking in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in practice, and no longer in sin. We have the hope and the promise of eternal life with God in heaven.

So, give people honor and respect who are teaching you the full truth of the gospel of our salvation as Jesus and his New Testament apostles taught it. Be willing to read writings that are not the really short ones, because to really tell the truth of what the gospel teaches, it isn’t a quickie message like many people make it out to be. And then be people who examine the Scriptures, taught in their correct biblical context, to see if what you are being taught is what the Scriptures really teach. And don’t believe the lies.

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1


As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

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An Original Work / September 12, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
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Erika Kirk Delivers Powerful National Address, Says Movement Will Not Die

“The evildoers responsible for my husband’s assassination have no idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God’s merciful love. They should all know this: if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world,” Kirk declared.

Amen.

Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson could face firing squad


I felt that this aspect of the conversation deserves its own thread, as it's a specific facet of the conversation that shouldn't get lost in the sea of the other matters relating to this topic.


With the high-profile killings that have recently happened, would death penalty being carried out on Tyler Robinson (should he be convicted) be warranted?

I ask that question with the caveat.

Normally I'm against the death penalty. But in this instance, would the death penalty being carried out by firing squad be a "pressure release valve" of sorts that could stave off more extreme outcomes (that could cause even more deaths) resulting from pent up "need for retributive justice"?


I think of what Obama (and a bipartisan plurality of politicians) said regarding his decision to give Seal Team Six the "go ahead" to take out Bin Laden. (and no, I'm not comparing Tyler to Bin Laden in terms of the scale of crimes, just using it to highlight the overall concept)

The decision was described with comments in the theme of "justice and closure". (emphasis on the closure part)

Now, the decision could've just as easily been "we'll find the right time to capture him, and bring him back to the US to stand trial, and give him life in prison", but they obviously went the other way on that.

Is that a direct appeal to the baser urges of human nature and the "need for vengeance as a form of closure"? Obviously...

But I think they understood that "he's just going to locked up forever" wouldn't have given a lot of people the same level of closure as knowing that a bunch of Seal Team Six guys lit him up like a Christmas Tree.

I do think one can make a pragmatic case for why the death penalty is the lesser of evils (in the long term) in some specific cases.


If people don't get that sense that "actual justice has been done", they'll start finding irrational ways to seek out that sense of closure, and you'll start getting a bunch of Bernie Goetz copycats on the subways.


Thoughts?

European Parliament snubs request for Charlie Kirk minute of silence after assassination

Right-wing MEPs protest after vice president cuts off Swedish lawmaker's attempted moment of silence​


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Months before assassination, Charlie Kirk warned SPLC wants 'TPUSA in the crosshairs'

Group labeled TPUSA 'anti-government extremist' group in May

In the months leading up to the assassination of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, the far-left civil rights organization Southern Poverty Law Center sharply criticized the organization and Kirk as promoters of "hard right" ideologies, including white supremacy and Christian nationalism.

Kirk, 31, was fatally shot on Wednesday while hosting a TPUSA event on campus at Utah Valley University in Orem. During a press briefing late Wednesday, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox described the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk as a "political assassination." President Donald Trump said Friday morning that a suspect, a man identified as 22-year-old Tyler Robinson of Utah, has been arrested.

In the wake of the shooting, questions emerged on social media about what role civil rights activist groups like the SPLC and others played in depicting Kirk and TPUSA as a threat to public safety.

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NY Gov. Kathy Hochul under fire for telling black church not to spend inflation checks at 'liquor store'

New York's Democratic Gov. Kathy Hochul is facing criticism from her opponents for telling black congregants at a megachurch in Buffalo not to spend their upcoming inflation refund checks at the "liquor store." She insists, however, that the jab was a "lighthearted joke," and the church's pastor has come to her defense.

The checks, which are expected to be mailed out to more than 8 million eligible New Yorkers beginning at the end of September, are "one-time payments" to "provide relief to New Yorkers who have paid increased sales taxes due to inflation," according to state officials. Individual taxpayers can receive as much as $200, while a household can collect a maximum of $400.

In her address at the more than 3,000-member True Bethel Baptist Church in Buffalo on Sunday, Hochul reminded members that the checks "are coming out soon" before warning them not to waste the money on "liquor."

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Atheist group’s complaint leads Ohio school district to warn coaches not to lead prayer

A school district in Ohio has reaffirmed its position that coaches cannot lead students in prayer after it received a complaint letter from a prominent atheist organization.

The Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation sent a letter to Lake Local Schools earlier this month, warning of possible legal action after it was informed that a high school cross-country coach reportedly led her team in prayer.

Lake Local Superintendent Brett Yeagley told The Christian Post in an emailed statement in response to the FFRF letter that, last week, “district administrators met to review these concerns in consultation with legal counsel.”

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Charley Kirk was a Sabbath Keeper.

Charley Kirk lost his life this week and one of the things he was spreading was about the Sabbath....

"Charlie Kirk
Charlie grew up Presbyterian. Discovered the Sabbath in the Bible. Also heard a radio speaker talking about the blessings of Shabbat. They started keeping it. He loves to talk about the sabbath; he gets tired of politics. He is writing a book on the sabbath. Stop in the name of God.

Sabbath helped him immensely. Before he started keeping it, he was sleeping poorly and burning the candle at both ends. He heard Dennis Prager talk about keeping the Sabbath. He got jealous of him after hearing about God’s divine stop sign. They made a commitment to start keeping it.

The Sabbath is a prioritizing of who is in the church. Genesis 1:1 sets the tone for God’s requirements and authority. The Catholic church tried to change the Sabbath to Sunday. It is the most ignored Commandment of the Decalogue. Honoring the sabbath helps you keep the other 9.

Dr. James Marcum shares the Sabbath with patients who are faced with health crisis. People use dopamine to make up for a lack of Bible truth in their lives. True worship activates a healthy part of the brain, that includes the Sabbath.

Charlie turns off his phone Friday night till sabbath night. Turns it off, his family uses electric on Sabbath. No news on Sabbath. If I can turn my phone off you can too. Charlie has 1500 employees. They know not to try calling him on the Sabbath. He turns his phone off. One time the President tried calling him on Sabbath. Charlie did not answer it. This day is for the Creator God and his Saviour.

Sabbath keeps you distinct from other people. Sometimes other Christians give you a hard time for keeping it. If I walk into your house on Sabbath, can I tell something different is happening? All family, all Jesus.

Ivan asked “How do you connect Jesus to Sabbath?”

Charlie: There is some sloppy teaching that Jesus broke the Sabbath. Two miracles, creation and resurrection affirm the Sabbath.

There are two types of people.

We are an unhappy accident.

Or creation. We are a miracle. By honoring the sabbath we are pushing back against dark nihilism in our world.

Never worship creation. Worship the creator. Romans 1.

Flesh fights the Sabbath. The enemy wants to prioritize materialism over the Creator. "Will You Be Made Whole? - Friday — Fulcrum7

Did you know that Charlie Kirk kept the Sabbath? - Church of God News

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Exorcists Speak: These Warriors Terrify Demons the Most

Directed toward men but well worth the time for all Catholics for catechesis. Very interesting about relics @48 minute mark. The guest, Charles Fraune, also has a couple of great books on the subject.

Emergency Prayer Request for Jalalpur & Surrounding Villages (Multan Region) , Pakistan

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

I come before you today with a heavy heart to share an urgent need. Our dear people in Jalalpur and the surrounding villages near Multan are facing devastation as a huge flood has covered these areas badly. Families have lost their homes, children are without shelter, and many are struggling to find safe ground.

I want to deeply thank each one of you who has already been lifting this region in prayer. Your intercession is a source of hope and strength for those who are suffering. But, beloved in Christ, the need is still great. We need more prayers for protection, provision, and God’s comfort over these affected lives.
Let us stand together in unity, asking the Lord of mercy as Scripture reminds us: “The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective” (James 5:16).

So I humbly ask, please keep Jalalpur and the villages around Multan at the altar of prayer, and encourage others in your churches, groups, and families to do the same. Together, we can cover our brothers and sisters with God’s shield of protection in this hour of need.


With gratitude and hope in Christ,
Pastor Waris

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Guided by the Holy Spirit

Due to a disagreement between the two of them, Paul and Barnabas had now gone separate ways. Barnabas now ministered alongside with Mark, and Paul went with Silas, and later they added Timothy. And the churches were being strengthened in the faith, and were increasing in number daily.

“They passed through the Phrygian and Galatian region, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia; and after they came to Mysia, they were trying to go into Bithynia, and the Spirit of Jesus did not permit them; and passing by Mysia, they came down to Troas. A vision appeared to Paul in the night: a man of Macedonia was standing and appealing to him, and saying, ‘Come over to Macedonia and help us.’ When he had seen the vision, immediately we sought to go into Macedonia, concluding that God had called us to preach the gospel to them.” (Acts 16:6-10 NASB1995)

Now, I know I have spoken on this subject more than once, but I believe this is critical that we get this, especially as we see the DAY approaching. For there will come a time when the church will be under severe persecution, and more than ever before, we will have to rely on the Holy Spirit to guide us in what to do, and in what to say, and in where to go, and in what to not do and not say, and in where not to go, too. But really that time is now!

For the Bible does not say, “Sue Love, I want you to go to the internet, and I want you to write down what I teach you, and I want you to give these writings to the internet so that a herald may ‘run with it.’” Now, the calling of God on my life was certainly based in the Scriptures, and the Lord did use the Scriptures in order to call me to this ministry, but the Scriptures themselves did not direct me to write and to post writings on the internet.

Yes, the Scriptures do teach us the basic principles of the Christian life and how it is to be lived. But it is the Holy Spirit who speaks within us to guide us and to direct us each day in what to do, and in what to say, and in where to go or to not go, and in how we are to spend our time, and who we are to witness to, and in what the Lord wants us to say specifically to anyone. But the voices we hear within us must be tested against the Scriptures.

Why? Because there are many people today claiming to have heard from the Holy Spirit, but in ways that are contradictory to the teachings of the Scriptures. Like the Bible does not teach us to just start mumbling nonsensical words and we will thus be speaking in tongues. For tongues is a gift given to us of the Holy Spirit, and it is not something we produce in our own flesh. And it must be exercised in biblical and in orderly ways.

And the Bible teaches self-control, so if you are doing what is out of your own ability to control, claiming it is of the Holy Spirit, it is not of God, not of his Spirit, and it well could be of a demonic spirit, instead. So be discerning!! And this is not in reference to people with physical conditions which cause their bodies to act in ways in which are out of their control, such as in seizures or in twitches or in shaking, etc. This us under a different category.

But “Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil.” (1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 NASB1995)

For, when we quench the Spirit by deciding that the Spirit does not speak to us individually in guiding us in what to do and in where to go, then God is not able to use us in the way in which he called us from even before we were born. We have to be able to hear within us the Spirit saying, “No! Don’t go there. Don’t say that. Delete, or stop that. This is not where I want you. I have something else for you to do, something you have never imagined.”

And when the Holy Spirit within us prompts us to not go there, we must not then continue in what we were doing. We need to stop, and go the opposite direction. And if by the Holy Spirit we are given a vision from God appealing to us to go to a specific place and to speak to a specific person or people, and if what we are hearing is not against God, and not against his word, but is in agreement with the Scriptures, we should not hesitate to follow the leading of the Spirit in where he directs us to go and in what we’re to say.

[Mark 13:11; Luke 2:26; Luke 4:18-19; Luke 10:21; Luke 12:11-12; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:13; Acts 1:8; Acts 2:17-18; Acts 11:12; Acts 13:2; Acts 16:6-10; Acts 20:23; Romans 8:9,14; 1 Corinthians 2:14-16; 1 Corinthians 12:7,11,18; Romans 12:1-8; Ephesians 4:1-16]

Fit for Service

An Original Work / October 5, 2011
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


Holy Spirit, come within us.
Cleanse our hearts,
and from sin free us.
Make us holy vessels fit
for service to the King.
Fill us with Your love and power.
Anoint us within this hour
To be living witnesses
For Jesus Christ, our King.
Our praise to Him bring.

Father God, our heart’s desire,
Come and speak to us in power.
Revive our hearts to obey You;
Live for You always.
May we love and serve You only,
Walking with You;
Not a phony.
May we always tell the truth,
And show integrity.
Your true servants be.

Jesus, Savior, sanctify us.
Purify our hearts within us;
Be transformed into Your likeness,
Holy unto You.
May we always listen to You
Speaking Your words
Now within us.
May we heed Your counsel to us;
Follow You today.
Do all that You say.

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An Original Work / September 12, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Excerpts from the Charlie Kirk Vigil in Huntington Beach, CA

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Another compilation from earlier in the day, so you can see that it's the same location:
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LA Times article that mentions the vigil:

If anybody else has a longer version, I'd be interested in seeing it. I haven't found one.

Charlie Kirk future release of book about Sabbath, hits top of charts

This week Charlie Kirk was fatally attacked while speaking to the public. I pray for comfort for Charlie's family. What a horrible tragedy.

He has an unpublished book about the Sabbath that will still come out late in the year Titled "Stop in the name of God".

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Charlie Kirk's final book,
Stop, in the Name of God: Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life, is set for release on December 9, 2025

"Is already a "best seller" as judged by the pre-ordersOn Amazon, “Stop in the Name of God” has already hit number one on the retailer's Christian book charts, as well as its religion and spirituality charts (as of this writing)"

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I for one plan to buy a copy of that book. I hope it encourages even more interest in the topic

Charlie Kirk and Our Christian Founding

Sorry if I missed this one if already posted. Possibly, there wasn't a transcript of his incredible talent on display. If his response is not fit for Christians to comment on here, then that is really unfortunate. This video (scroll down) which I believe has been out for some months has been hacked up depending on where you go to get it. This transcript is the fullest I could find and it is a little fuller than the video (sorry). Otherwise, enjoy patriots!

Charlie Kirk and America’s Christian Founding (Q&A)

Questioner: As stated yesterday by a couple of my friends that our country was not founded on Christian principles. Our country was founded on common law. Uh because the declaration only refers to God four times and in the Constitution doesn't refer to God at all. It Only articulated the structure of government. And, is common law Christian in nature or is it not.

Charlie Kirk: So, first of all, remember that we were a collection of states and colonies and you need to read the state constitutions before anything else. Nine out of 13 of the original states required you to be a Bible believing Christian to serve in government. All 13 required you to have a declaration of faith, nine out of the thirteen required you to be a Protestant, except Maryland which was Catholic which still required a declaration. In almost every single one of the original state constitutions, Pennsylvania included, they had I profess Lord in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior in the original state constitutions. Secondly, 55 out of 56 of the original signers of the declaration were Bible believing church attending Christians.

You asked about common law. So common law is inherited from Blackstone who was Christian. It a common law is an outgrowth of the scriptures. So let's go to three principles of common law.

1. Presumption of innocence,​
2. Due process,
3. Jury of your peers.

All three are biblical principles. So, and all wrapped into the ultimate biblical principle that you shall not favor justice if you are richer or poor, which is in Leviticus 19. Right before most famous part of Leviticus 19, which is that you should love your neighbor as yourself. But before that is that in the administration of justice, you shall not favor the rich or the poor, which is the idea of blind justice. We get that in the west, which is incorporated also in the New Testament ideal, “neither slave nor Greek nor Jew. You're all one in Jesus Christ”. So, we got the idea of human equality. These are all biblical ideas. Is they're not enlightenment ideas, which is they kind of get conflated at the time.

But more importantly than that, they say that God was only mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence. Well, that's a big deal. Okay. Laws of nature and nature's God. The last paragraph of the declaration reads as a prayer. It says, "We appeal to the supreme judge of the universe”. Who's the judge of the universe? Jesus Christ. As it says in Revelation that Jesus will judge the earth on his throne. This. So in the declaration they were praying to Christ our Lord as a prayer very specifically.

Thirdly as I said on stage yesterday, Deuteronomy was by far the most quoted book religious or non-religious in the time of the founding when they were putting together constitution more than John Lock, more than Montisscu, more than Blackstone. So the book of Deuteronomy which talked about laws, customs, traditions, it was Moses farewell address as he's, you know, about to say goodbye. Say, "Hey, good luck in Canaan guys. Here's how you should set up your form of government."

But finally, and most importantly, let's look at actually what the founders said. John Adams seamlessly said, "The Constitution was only written for a moral and religious people. It was holy and adequate for the people of any other.” The body politic of America was so Christian and was so Protestant that our form and structure of government was built for the people that believed in Christ our Lord. One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation but we have a Christian form of government and they're incompatible. So you cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population.

So then they'll go to the first amendment which is has two parts of the first amendment which get conflated. First of all, separation church and state is not in the US constitution. That is a single letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1807 to the Danbury Baptist Convention in Massachusetts assuring them that the government would not come after the church. Okay, which is the opposite of what they would say. However, that was then resurrected by the Warren Court and the Burger Court in the 60s where they said, "Hey, you know, all of a sudden we're now going to make this as if it's the Constitution."

It does say in the Constitution two things, which is the establishment clause and the free free expression clause. The establishment clause is that Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise thereof. What they were most worried about was a Presbyterian or, a Anglican or, a Quaker type religion taking over Federal Government, Instead, it was that there is not going to be a state-run religion or a state-run government. Did you know that one of the first acts of Congress was taxpayer funded Bible printing and distribution? Did you know there were Church services held in the Supreme Court building as late as the Jackson presidency in the 1820s? But going back to this idea of separation of church and state, it's not constitutional because you go a layer deeper.

People that even say that, do you believe in separation of morality and state? Nobody does. So all laws are reflection of morality and all morality comes from somewhere. There is no such thing as neutral morality. And we believe what the founders believe because they put it in the halls of Congress. They put it in the Supreme Court and they put it all throughout the country which is that the decalogue the ten commandments, is the core morality of how a society and a civilization should should exist. Right? The the ten commandments of every person. And finally and this is the kicker. If the founding fathers were not Bible believing church uh church Christians, why did they put Leviticus on the liberty bill? Not John, not Psalms, not Proverbs, not Genesis. Leviticus. Most Americans can't spell Leviticus. Leviticus 25:19. Proclaim liberty throughout the land of which you are in.

It is one of the most sinister, most unsubstantiated lies that does not come up against any sort of academic scrutiny. This idea the founding fathers were a bunch of enlightenment common law deists.

The reason they hate it is because if they the reason they must say this is that if we actually go back to our Christian roots and we go back to where we once were, it's America's best hope for revival and for a great future."

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A cloud received Him out (FROM) of their sight....

Peace in Christ.

Blessed (happy) are those who will HEAR His voice and believe. Take heed on how we hear His voice. We, His people, are expected to hear and believe without seeing.

The “seeing” part is reserved for the people of the outside world who will then see His light shining through us (through the believers of His voice.) We hear and believe and manifest His life (light) and they (the people of the outside world) will then SEE that light…His light…in us.

We manifest the Son of man to them through our mortal flesh. We who believe will receive the promise of His presence so that they may SEE and believe. We HEAR and believe and they will SEE and believe.

Joh 20:28-29
(28) And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

(29) Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

We...His people...hear and believe in the Word of Truth and will manifest the Son of man to the people of the outside world through our mortal bodies.

We... who hear and believe... in the Word of Truth are Christ the first fruits....and they (the people of the outside world) will be Christ's at His "coming"...that is, His PRESENCE that we will manifest to them. They will then SEE Him through us. They will see His light shining through us and will believe.

1Co 15:23-24
(23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming (PRESENCE).

(24) Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The people of the outside world will receive Jesus FROM our "sight"...from those who will manifest the Son of man to their eyes as they will SEE Him through us.

They will be the "cloud" of eye witnesses of His light...His glory...that will shine through us now in this world. A "great multitude" of the people of the outside world will SEE Him shining through us and will then believe.

Act 1:8-11
(8) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
(9) And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out (FROM) of their sight.


the 2 men that stood by them = Moses and Elijah. We are to HEAR Him who will interpret Moses and the prophets to us. We are to hear and believe.

(10) And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

You men of GALILEE....the circle of the nations...the people of the outside world. We are then to shine His light to the people of the outside world...to "Galilee."

(11) Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Behold....LO SEE...He comes with clouds (a great multitude of the people of the outside world who will SEE Him and believe.) Every EYE SHALL SEE HIM...even the unbelievers. We manifest His light...His life...to them. They...a great multitude...a cloud... will SEE His light shining through us and will then believe.

Rev 1:7 KJV
(7) Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


But first, we...His people...are to HEAR and believe when we hear His voice as He interprets the Scriptures to our hearing ears.

If any man has ears to hear, let him hear. Hear and NOT SPEAK…being quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath.

Mar 4:23-25 KJV
(23) If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
(24) And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.

(25) For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.

Today, if you hear His voice, harden not your hearts as they did in the “provocation”….which carries the sense of provoking a strong, hostile, or rebellious reaction, often against a person or against God.

In other words, speaking CONTENTIOUS words in UNBELIEF against what they…His people…. will hear Him (in the Spirit of Truth) saying to their ears.

Heb 3:14-19 KJV
(14) For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
(15) While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
(16) For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.

(17) But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?

Unbelief is the major problem with His people who will hear His voice and react in their unbelief: wrath, contentions, etc.

(18) And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
(19) So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

He will render to every person according to what their deeds will be towards the hearing of His voice.

Rom 2:5-10 KJV
(5) But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
(6) Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

(7) To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Unto them that are CONTENTIOUS and do not obey ….that is, to NOT BELIEVE (Greek: apeitheō - to not believe)…the Truth (when they will hear it), but obey unrighteousness…doing evil: tribulation and anguish upon every soul. This tribulation and anguish is the suffering of the “second death.”

(8) But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
(9) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

(10) But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

His people should receive the Word of God (as spoken in the Spirit of Truth) in belief when they will HEAR it.

This is in contrast to the “word of men” (their private interpretations of the Scriptures) that we currently hear being preached in every gathering that is being deceived by them and led down the broad way to the destruction of our mortal bodies.

1Th 2:11-13 KJV
(11) As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father doth his children,
(12) That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.

(13) For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

We are to HEAR the Word of Truth…the good news of our salvation….and BELIEVE and are to be sealed with the Holy Spirit of the promise.

We are to receive the promise of an age-lasting life in our mortal bodies. We are to receive the promise of His presence in our mortal bodies so that we may shine His light to the people of the outside world.

Eph 1:12-14 KJV
(12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

(13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

With that Spirit, when then can shine His light to the people of the outside world….His purchased possession…who will then praise God when they see His glory appear over us who believe. "My Lord and my God." They will see and praise Him...like Thomas who did not believe until he SAW Him with his own eyes.

(14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

The apostles both SAW and HEARD and reported these things to us so that we might believe.: "that which we have SEEN and HEARD" they declare unto us...

1Jn 1:2-4 KJV
(2) (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)
(3) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

(4) And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

The unbelievers back in the day both saw and heard him……and yet did not believe. It will not be any different today. We hear and believe on Him….

Joh 12:44-48 KJV
(44) Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.

…AND he that SEES Him sees Him that sent Him. Jesus told Phillip that he that sees Him, sees the Father. It will be no different for us today who will hear and believe and then will manifest Him to the people of the outside world who are sitting in deep darkness (who have not previously seen His light shine to them,)

(45) And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.

When we manifest His light to the world, those that are His will then SEE Him (through us as we manifest the Son of man to them in our mortal flesh) and will believe on Him should not abide in darkness. They…who will SEE and believe…will be saved.

(46) I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

Even though the people of the outside world have heard His words before preached to them (and did not believe ), they will be saved if they will SEE Him and believe.

(47) And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

But he that rejects Him (after SEEING Him through us) and does not receive His words (after HEARING them) has one that will judge him.

(48) He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Today, it will be no different.

His people will hear the Scripture of Truth (hearing Moses and the prophets being interpreted by Him) and will see those people who will manifest His life in their mortal flesh….rising from the dead…and still will not be persuaded.

They will both HEAR and SEE and still will not believe. If they do not HEAR Moses and the prophets (as interpreted by Christ,) neither will they be persuaded though one rose from the dead. They will not be persuaded even if they will see one who will rise from the dead now in this life.

Luk 16:29-31 KJV
(29) Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
(30) And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

(31) And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

They...the unbelievers in the man-based churches... will continue on...church business as usual...during the coming time when the Son of man is being revealed to the people of the outside world.

Luk 17:26-30 KJV
(26) And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
(27) They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
(28) Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
(29) But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
(30) Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


School Teachers, Nurses, Government Workers, CELEBRATING Charlie Kirk's murder



This article doesn't even describe the worst of it.

There are countless social media messages and videos of people laughing, cheering, dancing that Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

This isn't some fringe group hiding in a dark hole in the corner of the internet.

They are school teachers, academics, healthcare workers, government workers, city officials, administrators, members of military, etc.

Hundreds of them, at least, on record proudly expressing their joy over this murder. If you have X you can go watch them now.


The more "moderate" leftists / liberals are running cover for this ghastly reality, as the media desperately tries to churn out reports of "conservatives politicizing the event" "Right-wingers are just as bad!!!"

But we can see the truth.

This is who the Left is - not their fringe but their core. They celebrate violence and death against their political enemies - especially someone like Charlie Kirk, who was just a mainstream moderate conservative guy whose only crime was openly challenging Leftist ideology. To them, that was worse than being a murderer or a rapist, and deserving of death, which they now cheer on.

It has never been clearer that the supposed "moral equivalence between the Right and Left" is an illusion.

The Left / Liberals are going to be working overtime to try and make this reality go away but it's too late - too many people have seen it.

The level of open depravity even shocked me and I had considered myself desensitized to this sort of thing.



We better pray these people never get back into power because they know they've been seen now and will not hold back.
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Please explain CCC 536 regarding Jesus and the Spirit: 'possessed in fullness' yet 'comes to rest on him'.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church says

The Spirit whom Jesus possessed in fullness from his conception comes to "rest on him."

  1. What does it mean for the Spirit 'to rest on him'?
  2. Why wasn't He already doing so?
  3. What does it mean for Jesus to possess the Spirit?
  4. What does it mean to do so 'in fullness'? Doesn't this imply one can do so partially?
  5. Does anyone possess the Spirit only partially?
  6. Do those who haven't yet received the Sacrament of Confirmation possess the Spirit only partially?
  7. Do we, like Jesus, come to possess the Spirit 'in fullness' after the Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation?

Thank you for your time.

Miracle?! Minneapolis Catholic School Student Is Now Out Of Critical Condition

Something MIRACULOUS is happening as this Catholic school student is now OUT of critical condition.

It’s something doctors once thought impossible for 12-year-old Sophia Forchas, who’s improved to serious condition an improvement from the critical condition doctors said. Fragments of the bullet are still in her brain. Half her skull was removed to relieve pressure. She even suffered a stroke. Despite all that, we are witnessing a medical miracle.

Sophia is opening her eyes. She’s moving her leg. She’s fighting with everything in her. She came terrifyingly close to becoming the third fatality of the Catholic school shooting in Minneapolis — but she is still here. Will you pause today and post a prayer for Sophia’s continued healing?

https://fox9.com/news/annunciation-mass-shooting-sophia-forchas-condition-improves?fbclid=IwdGRjcAMwHBBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHr6T-BkRJtNuost9SixRYNYccyEq8_wCvCAzGn0gOJ0gpCu8M7I8x-yh9PiH_aem_8kjyt5w0hRSsLzAaHQaybA#jy2nrgo4e4gyepfitr297rnsa4u7lgg
Sophia Forchas, a 12-year-old girl with long curly hair, wearing a green polo shirt and dark pants, stands outdoors in front of a house with a glass door and greenery. She holds a colorful sign reading SOPHIA\'S FIRST DAY OF 7TH GRADE and carries a backpack. A FOX 9 watermark is visible in the top right corner. Text overlay at the bottom reads ANNUNCIATION SHOOTING SOPHIA FORCHAS\' CONDITION IS NO LONGER \'CRITICAL\' AFTER BEING SHOT IN HEAD.

Miracle?! Minneapolis Catholic School Student Is Now Out Of Critical Condition
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