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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Radical Serge in Republican Voter Registrations Sin Carlie Kirk's Death


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The Republican Party is seeing a “Charlie Kirk effect,” with moderate Democrats and Independents switching party affiliation at breakneck speed.
Freshly emancipated former Dems told The Post they were horrified by the assassination of the 31-year-old podcaster last week — who they thought of as kind and reasonable — and further disgusted by the ghoulish celebration of his killing by many lefties.

We are watching the DNC collapse before our very eyes. I am predicting that the next decade will be dominated by Republicans, to include 2 terms with J.D. Vance. After that, things will level out with an increased in Independent voters to include many liberal Republicans leaving the GOP. Eventually we will have a three party system with the GOP still on top, and Independents fighting with Democrats for second place. Regardless, the GOP will be in power for a very long time.

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State Judge dismisses two top charges against Luigi Mangione in UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting


Man accused in killing of Brian Thompson will not face state charges of first- and second-degree murder but will still face other charges

Luigi Mangione scored a major legal victory on Tuesday with a judge dismissing the two top state charges against him: first-degree murder and second-degree murder, both of which prosecutors had argued were terrorism crimes.

Mangione still faces an additional second-degree murder charge, as well as a federal murder charge, in the killing of United HealthCare executive Brian Thompson last December.

“Counts 1 and 2, charging defendant with Murder in the First Degree (in furtherance of an act of terrorism) and Murder in the Second Degree as a Crime of Terrorism, are dismissed as legally insufficient,” Carro wrote. “The People presented legally sufficient evidence of all other counts, including Murder in the Second Degree (intentional).”

Mangione also faces federal charges for allegedly gunning down Thompson outside a hotel, and weapons possession counts.
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Deportations and Assaults on Human Dignity


A Special Initiative Roundtable on Catholic Principles, Human Costs, and Pastoral Challenges

Sen. Schmitt at National Conservatism Conference 5: What Is an American?

Donald Trump’s victory was not just a victory for his movement, but for the ideas of the people in this room. National conservatism is an idea whose time has arrived.

The battle for our future is not between democracy and autocracy, capitalism and socialism, or even “Right” and “Left,” in the old meaning of those terms. It is between the nation and the forces that would erase it.

For decades, many of those in power—not just here, but across the West—have been locked in a cultural war with their own nations. We see that in many of the countries of Europe today, where the immigration crisis threatens to transform the ancient fabric of those nations—and all who object are menaced by an increasingly totalitarian censorship state.

The old conservative establishment may have opposed something like illegal immigration on procedural grounds—simply because it was illegal. But they took no issue with it in substance, and if the same thing was achieved through “legal” avenues, many of them would celebrate and support it.

For the tens of thousands of Americans who were forced to train their foreign H-1B replacements just to get their severance package, the fact that it was “legal” is little comfort.

For decades, the mainstream consensus on the Left and the Right alike seemed to be that America itself was just an “idea”—a vehicle for global liberalism. We were told that the entire meaning of America boiled down to a few lines in a poem on the Statue of Liberty, and five words about equality in the Declaration of Independence.

If you imposed a carbon copy of the U.S. Constitution on Kazakhstan tomorrow, Kazakhstan wouldn’t magically become America. Because Kazakhstan isn’t filled with Americans. It’s filled with Kazakhstanis!

For years, conservatives would talk as if the whole world were just Americans-in-waiting—“born American, but in the wrong place.”

That’s what set Donald Trump apart from the old conservatism and the old liberalism alike: He knows that America is not just an abstract “proposition,” but a nation and a people, with its own distinct history and heritage and interests.

His movement is the revolt of the real American nation. It’s a pitchfork revolution, driven by the millions of Americans who felt that they were turning into strangers in their own country.

America, in all its glory, is [our revolutionary and pioneer ancestors'] gift to us, handed down across the generations. It belongs to us. It’s our birthright, our heritage, our destiny.

We Americans are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe’s shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith.

The first settlers in my state were mostly Scots-Irish ... As the historian David McCullough writes, the Scots-Irish families that first settled Missouri “saw themselves as the true Americans”:

But America does not belong to [the radicals, i.e. "them"]. It belongs to us. It’s our home. It’s a heritage entrusted to us by our ancestors. It is a way of life that is ours, and only ours, and if we disappear, then America, too, will cease to exist.

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Emphasis added. All opinions are Senator Schmitt's. National conservatism is a variant of conservatism that prioritizes the defense of national and cultural identity. In the United States, [Trump's ideas] can be considered a variety of national conservatism, which also gives its name to the National Conservatism Conference, organised by the Edmund Burke Foundation.

Transcript of Kirk's killer's messages has been revealed





(included multiple sources)
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John Piper warns against 'Christian' mysticism, seeking 'out-of-body connection' with supernatural powers

Notable theologian and author John Piper has warned Christians not to pursue mysticism or believe that one can connect with God in a supernatural realm to gain hidden knowledge.

In a recent episode of the “Ask Pastor John" podcast, the Desiring God website founder responded to a letter from a listener named Dianne who asked about the Bible teacher's views on mysticism.

“I don’t know if this question has come up before, but what are your thoughts on Christian mysticism and Christian mystics and their interaction with God?” she wrote.

“Did they experience something in their walk with God that we have generally lost today? Is mysticism something that we should pursue to have a closer walk with God?”

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Actor Robert Redford dead at 89

Hollywood icon starred in classics spanning five decades of film​



"Robert Redford passed away on September 16, 2025, at his home at Sundance in the mountains of Utah – the place he loved, surrounded by those he loved," his representative told Fox News Digital. "He will be missed greatly. The family requests privacy."

The Hollywood icon was best known for classics like "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" and "The Sting."

Before he became the rugged screen icon of the 1970s, Redford grew up in Santa Monica, California.

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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

Head of the DOJ, America's top law enforcement and not just some woke lib:

"There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society," Bondi said.
"Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people so we show them some action is better than no action?" Miller asked in response.
"We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech -- and that's across the aisle," Bondi responded.

I could have sworn throughout the existence of time the right railed against the idea that a type of speech, not criminal, could itself be a crime. Yes, that speech accompanying a crime can indeed be; but they detest that. Not only that, the other thing the right railed against is cancel culture. Something they are quite actively conducting given universities, law firms, school books, museums, and any other thing they don't like. This is not the "me too" movement where it was the private sector. This is the US government going "me too". Not just canceling, but promising to go after you and jail you (what charges, who knows) for invoking your constitutional right of free speech.
"Hate speech does not exist legally in America. There's ugly speech. There's gross speech. There's evil speech. And ALL of it is protected by the First Amendment,"--Charlie Kirk.

What gives?

Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin's transgender roommate 'hates conservatives and Christians,' relative says

Family member says individual became 'radicalized' and influenced Tyler Robinson's politics over past year​


ST. GEORGE, Utah - The trans roommate of Turning Point USA Founder Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin "hates conservatives and Christians," one of his relatives told Fox News Digital in an interview.

The 22-year-old, who has not been charged and whose name has not yet been released by authorities, was in a romantic relationship with suspect Tyler Robinson, also 22, according to the relative. She said he is in the process of transitioning from male to female.

The woman, who asked to remain anonymous, told Fox News Digital her relative began to act differently when he turned 18 and said that he developed a hatred of Christians and conservatives.

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Jeff Bacon has arrived

Hello all,
I found this site by searching for Christian forums and then a post on a reddit forum with a link to here.
I am from Florida. I was saved in 1987 on my sixth birthday and called to be a pastor in 2020.
I have an mDiv in pastoral ministry and serve as a pastor.
I look forward to getting to hear your story and sharing with each other.
God bless you,
Jeff

'Mainstream’ liberal media covered themselves in shame after Charlie Kirk’s assassination

The immediate response of many “mainstream” liberal journalists to the assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk demonstrates why so many Americans loathe the corporate media.

Many of the responses to Kirk’s killing on social websites like TikTok and Bluesky have been celebratory and downright evil.

It’s ironic in a certain way that Bluesky had become such a concentrated den of hate and outrage, given that the platform was allegedly created because X had backed away from content moderation.

The truth is that what they really wanted was just a safe space for libs. They wanted a world carefully cultivated like a college campus where opinions range from the Left to Left-er, and anyone who challenges their views with logic, like Charlie Kirk, is silenced when basic liberal assumptions are questioned.

But as vicious as the hordes of hateful, random leftists have been on social media, it’s the mainstream outlets that behaved most shamefully when news of Kirk’s shooting broke.

Continued below.

Fox News host Brian Kilmeade apologizes for remarks about killing mentally ill homeless people

The topic led “Fox & Friends” co-host Laurence Jones to say that billions of dollars have been spent on programs to care for the homeless and mentally ill but many of those afflicted resist help.

“A lot of them don’t want to take the programs,” Jones said. “A lot of them don’t want to get the help that is necessary. You can’t give them the choice. Either you take the resources that we’re going to give you, or you decide that you’ve got to be locked up in jail.”

Kilmeade added: “Or involuntary lethal injection or something — just kill ‘em.”

Eastern Orthodox Leader Is On A US Visit To Meet With Trump And Receive Award For Environmental Work


Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, the spiritual leader of Eastern Orthodox Christians, is making his first visit in four years to the United States, where he met Monday afternoon with President Donald Trump and is slated to receive honors for his environmental advocacy.

Bartholomew arrived in Washington Sunday and is scheduled to make various U.S. appearances through Sept. 25.

Bartholomew is considered first among equals among Orthodox patriarchs because of his role as patriarch of Constantinople, the ancient capital city now known as Istanbul in Turkey. That role gives him prominence, but not the power of a pope, in a church with various self-governing jurisdictions.

The patriarch oversees the small Orthodox population in mostly Muslim Turkey. He also oversees some communities abroad, such as the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America and some smaller U.S. jurisdictions.

Bartholomew’s meeting with Trump took place Monday afternoon in the Oval Office. His office issued a brief summary of the meeting, and he expanded on that in comments to reporters.

The patriarch told reporters afterward that he talked about the small Christian population in Turkey, “the hardships they face, the difficulties, the persecutions, but also the fact that despite all these we survive and we continue to carry out our mission,” according to the archdiocese’s Orthodox Observer news site.


Bartholomew also talked about Ukraine and his role in church affairs there.

Bartholomew is a strong supporter of Ukraine. He recognized an independent Orthodox jurisdiction there in 2019, leading the Russian Orthodox Church to declare that the communion between it and Constantinople is broken. Bartholomew has also sharply criticized Moscow Patriarch Kirill’s blessing of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

The patriarch said he talked with Trump about past Russian oppression of Ukraine and about its current invasion, “about the thousands of victims, about the destruction, about the kidnapped children, about all these tragic events that wound the conscience of humanity,” according to the Observer.
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Gaza’s Christians Refuse To Abandon Churches Before Israeli Attack

Leaders of Gaza’s Christian community said in a joint statement released on August 26 that the forced displacement would amount to “nothing less than a death sentence”.“Among those who have sought shelter within the walls of the compounds, many are weakened and malnourished due to the hardships of the last months,” the patriarchs wrote. “For this reason, the clergy and nuns have decided to remain and continue to care for all those who will be in the compounds.”
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Clergy to stay in their churches​

“This decision came with complete freedom,” Farid Gibran, the Holy Family Church’s spokesperson, explained, saying those sheltering at the church have the liberty to leave if they want to.

The decision of the church leaders to stay in Gaza City has inspired many of those residing at the Holy Family Church to remain despite growing fears of Israeli attacks. Many, like Moussa Saad Ayyad, 41, a father of four children aged six to 14, believe the church’s relationship with the Vatican could guarantee relative safety.
“They took my home and my loved ones, but they won’t take my right to remain here on my land no matter how dark it gets,” Fouad told Al Jazeera as he watched his daughter sleep.

How Charlie Kirk's killing sparked unfounded theories about Groypers

Soon after Charlie Kirk's assassination, some on the political left quickly spread a baseless theory that the conservative podcaster was killed by a follower of the ultra-right-wing group called Groypers.

The big picture: Internet searches for Groypers skyrocketed last week as critics tried to connect Kirk's suspected shooter, Tyler Robinson, and the group's leader, Nick Fuentes, a podcaster known for edgy, racist and socially transgressive content.




  • Fuentes said early Saturday on X that his followers are being "framed" for Kirk's killing, "based on literally zero evidence."
  • Authorities told Axios they believe Robinson's romantic relationship with his transgender roommate could be key to determining a motive for Kirk's killing, and that Robinson believed that the conservative was spreading transphobic hate.
  • More details are expected to emerge this week when charges are formally filed against Robinson.
Between the lines: The partisan battle to define a killer as a follower of an ideological opponent has become a common response to high-profile slayings, from Florida to Texas to Pennsylvania.

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Viral Claims About Charlie Kirk’s Words

Since the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk on Sept. 10, social media users have shared posts showing, quoting or paraphrasing remarks the posts attribute to the conservative activist. Many readers have asked us to provide the facts on whether Kirk, the founder of the youth political group Turning Point USA, made several of these comments.

We’ll review some of the statements that our readers asked about and correct a viral social media post that got what Kirk said wrong.

While he did say many of the statements, some have been misrepresented or not presented with full context.

False Claim of an Asian Slur​

A popular post on X incorrectly claimed that Kirk used a slur for Asian people.

“That time Charlie Kirk called an Asian woman in the audience ‘c—-’ multiple times,” the post reads, spelling out the slur in full, and accompanied by a montage video from TikTok. “He made millions off of his racism and sexism.”

The video, however, does not show Kirk using the slur. Rather, as an X Community Note explains, Kirk was shouting at Cenk Uygur, a co-host of the Young Turks, a progressive online news show, and using his first name. The two men were at Politicon, an annual nonpartisan political convention, in October 2018.

“I live like a capitalist every single day, Cenk!” Kirk said angrily to Uygur, after Uygur interrupted a debate Kirk was having with the Young Turks’ Hasan Piker about what political views young people should have. “Come on, Cenk, let’s go,” he said later.

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Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls For United States to Be Split Up, Declares Country ‘No Longer Safe’ For Anyone

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) revived her calls for a “national divorce” on Monday, ominously warning that the American right and left have “nothing left to talk about.”

Greene sparked controversy in February of 2023, when she wrote on X, “We need a national divorce.”
“We need to separate by red states and blue states and shrink the federal government. Everyone I talk to says this. From the sick and disgusting woke culture issues shoved down our throats to the Democrat’s [sic] traitorous America Last policies, we are done,” Greene added.
I'm not against this in a way. Why should I have to give my taxes to Republicans, When they want nothing to with Democrat ,except when it comes to money . What should happen, is all Democrats support Democrats people only . And red states take care of them selves .Except for the Democrats in Red States. problem solved.

President Trump Files $15 Billion Defamation and Libel Lawsuit Against The New York Times

"The New York Times has been allowed to freely lie, smear, and defame me for far too long, and that stops, NOW! The suit is being brought in the Great State of Florida."

Like those Trump has previously sued the NY Times can afford to settle. But it is important, it does cost them and it puts them on notice about continuing to print libelous information.

TN School Resource Officer put on paid leave during review of ‘proselytizing’ complaint while coaching football

(from a week or so ago)
An assistant football coach and SRO at Northwest High School has been put on paid leave during an investigation of a complaint of “proselytizing” during a football game Friday night that led to his removal from the contest.

Deputy Lawrence “Trey” Campbell was put on leave by the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office, which oversees the school resource officers at Clarksville-Montgomery County Schools.

Friday night, Campbell, in his role as an assistant coach on the football team, was removed at halftime of the Vikings game against Davidson Academy by the Northwest principal. By some accounts, Campbell was holding a Bible and leading players in prayer.
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On Tuesday, CMCSS released a statement through spokesman Anthony Johnson with initial information from its investigation into the incident.

“The concerns were not about private prayer or personal religious beliefs. CMCSS fully supports and respects the constitutional rights of all students, employees and visitors to practice their faith, including the right to pray privately,” Johnson said. “However, federal law and the U.S. Constitution place limits on the actions of public employees, including educators, coaches and SROs, when they are acting in their official capacities.

“Beginning the morning of Sept. 5, witnesses observed behavior from Campbell [in his role as SRO] that was inconsistent with those standards and with his normal conduct. At the beginning of the school day, Campbell carried a Bible and told staff he was ‘walking in the Spirit today,’ quoting Scripture about rebuking those who come against you.

“Throughout the day, witnesses reported and video footage corroborated that Campbell carried a Bible with him, spoke with students as they entered the school that morning, in the cafeteria, and other areas of the school while quoting Scripture from the Bible, and he excused a student for being tardy because the student had been with him in the cafeteria, which is an action outside the typical protocol,” Johnson said.

“Later that evening at the football game, multiple witnesses observed and video footage corroborated Campbell spending significant time throughout the game on the sidelines with players and other students, quoting Scripture, holding a Bible up to spectators, and leading prayers. A witness stated that ‘every time I looked and saw him, he was talking to a player or players with the Bible or holding hands with head bowed.’ A cell phone video surfaced that appeared to show Campbell step in front of the student section, leading a ‘faith over fear’ chant.”

However, multiple witnesses stated that when asked to stop causing a disruption and to put his Bible away, Campbell stated loudly that ‘I can’t do it, won’t do it,’ and ‘my job is to save these babies.’ [Actually, it isn't.]

THE GREAT CONTROVERSY in Baltimore, Maryland

This evening National Public Radio carried a lengthy news item about Baltimore having been inundated with hundreds of thousands of copies of a book titled "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY". It seems that the book was mailed to every address in Baltimore.

As many of us here at CF know, "THE GREAT CONTROVERSY" was authored by Ellen White, the prophetess, and chief founder of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. This thread is primarily directed toward members of that denomination. I have a number of questions as follow:

1. Why? Why deluge a large city with your denomination's key text, if in actual fact, you really believe that the Bible alone is the basis of all of your beliefs, as many of our SDA friends here at CF assert.
2. Why Baltimore (and Philadelphia, I understand)? Why not Denver or San Diego or Moscow or Nairobi?
3. Why go to the very significant expense when, in fact, there are many more less expensive and probably more cost-effective methods of member recruitment?

Christian Artists Remember Charlie Kirk

Following the tragic passing of Charlie Kirk, Christian artists have shared words of grief, prayer, and hope in Christ. Here are some of their heartfelt tributes. As more speak out, please add them to our ongoing conversations at Instagram, X, and Facebook.
Crowder
“My heart hurts. This world is broken. Erika Kirk posted this verse a couple of hours before she lost her husband Charlie: ‘God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble’ (Psalm 46:1).”

Seventh Day Slumber
“We are praying for Charlie Kirk’s beautiful family. This is heartbreaking .”

Phil Wickham
“My heart is grieved and heavy. It’s difficult to process the evil and hatred in our country right now. I pray God’s comfort and peace over Charlie Kirk’s family and loved ones. Jesus, it all feels like too much. All I know to do is lift my eyes to heaven and remember that one day every tear will be wiped away, and God will make all things new.”

Matthew West
“I’m sick to my stomach and heartbroken over the tragic loss of Charlie Kirk today. My family and I are praying for his wife, his children, and all who loved him. Charlie was a true patriot and a passionate follower of Jesus. May we honor his legacy by living and speaking the truth with the same boldness he demonstrated every day.”

Tauren Wells
“Senseless acts of violence, motivated by hatred, should provoke us to prayer and action. Our hearts and prayers go out to Charlie Kirk’s family, and I pray that the powers of darkness at work would be exposed and expelled by the power of Jesus Christ."

Point of Grace
“Charlie Kirk was an exceptional human being, wise and purpose-driven beyond his years. Brave. God and family first. He knew Jesus and the Holy Scriptures so well. He wanted to be remembered for his ‘courage in the faith.’ He will be. Our hearts are broken and grieving.”

Joel Vaughn
“Yesterday, Charlie Kirk was gunned down for having a differing opinion. It’s devastating for his wife and children, who now must live without him. I pray for his family, and I pray that we can learn to love our neighbors, disagree with civility, and follow Jesus’ command to love God and love one another.”

Ryan Ellis
“I am in total shock. RIP to a patriot. This is wild. I’m praying for peace and for the Kirk family, and for everyone who had to witness that horrific act. God help us.”

Michael Sweet
“I’m devastated that Charlie Kirk was killed. I’m sick over the fact that some are celebrating his death. No matter what you believe, why would anyone take joy in someone being murdered? I find comfort in God’s promises: that nothing can separate us from His love, and that through Jesus we have eternal life. Rest in peace, Charlie.”

Ledger
“Absolutely heartbreaking. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk. Your bold faith, courage in Christ, and unwavering stand have left a profound mark on this generation. May we be inspired by your example to never shrink back, but to speak the truth in love.”

Matt Hammitt
“The enemy is working overtime to divide our nation politically, racially, and in every way he can—but our God will have the final word. May our hearts be bent in prayer for this nation and for the Kirk family today."

John Schlitt
“Such a needless tragedy... Welcome to your new heavenly home, Charlie Kirk.”

Rhett Walker
“Heartbreaking. No matter where you stand politically, violence is never the answer. This was pure evil. He was one of the only ones who would take any question, always with kindness. Pray for his wife and kids whose world has been flipped upside down. Pray for our country. Pray against evil. Pray for justice.”

Do we worship together with those who reject Jesus?

I notice that invitation has been given for Christians to join Jews for prayer on the Temple Mount in response to Charlie Kirks Assassination.

How does that work when Judaism rejects Jesus as Messiah and is essentially therefore, antichrist.

Please don't misunderstand me - I have a deep love for Jews but have deep concerns for supporting their official religion in it's present form.

Are believers being primed to support the building of the third temple?

The temple institute seems to be planning a temple that would invite fellowship from any religion.

Should we be supporting this initiative ???

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