What do you all think about this paper/article?

[The IbanezerScrooge]

GOD doesn't lie.
Plain and Simple.

People do. The Bible was written by people.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

You call Him.

His number is JEREMIAH 333.

Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

I've tried. The line is dead.

 

[AV1611VET]

People do.

Yes, people lie.

The Bible was written by people.

1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

You (and others) demonstrate the truth of this verse, when you deny the Bible was written by God; since the verse says, "which effectually worketh also in you that believe."

When you deny It, you show that It is not effectually working in you.

 

[AV1611VET]

The line is dead.

On which end?

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Yes, people lie.



1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

You (and others) demonstrate the truth of this verse, when you deny the Bible was written by God; since the verse says, "which effectually worketh also in you that believe."

When you deny It, you show that It is not effectually working in you.

This does not mean anything to me, AV. You have not rebuked me or made me fear for my soul or any of those things. I do not believe in your religion, AV. I do not believe that your holy book has any sacred truth above any other text written by people. Quoting your holy book to me is an exercise in futility. I do not care what you believe about your holy book, AV.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

On which end?

Well, I'm talking so...

I mean you have no problem reading what I'm saying, right?

 

[AV1611VET]

This does not mean anything to me, AV. You have not rebuked me or made me fear for my soul or any of those things. I do not believe in your religion, AV. I do not believe that your holy book has any sacred truth above any other text written by people. Quoting your holy book to me is an exercise in futility. I do not care what you believe about your holy book, AV.

Thanks for the QED, but I wish you would reconsider.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, I'm talking so...

I mean you have no problem reading what I'm saying, right?

Yup.

 

[Lost Witness]

Apparently, some people do think it all has to be ultra-literal or that it's somehow not worth the time.

All scripture is GOD breathed.
GOD doesn't lie.
Why would he put something in scripture for it not to be as he says?
Not sure about everyone else but as someone that's a believer of the LORD not sure we can even comprehend his understanding. Or his ways?
Isn't he beyond understanding? His ways so much higher than all of ours combined?

'GOD couldn't have done these things'
Sounds more like us trying to rationalize something we simply can't comprehend

 

[Estrid]

All scripture is GOD breathed.
GOD doesn't lie.
Why would he put something in scripture for it not to be as he says?
Not sure about everyone else but as someone that's a believer of the LORD not sure we can even comprehend his understanding. Or his ways?
Isn't he beyond understanding? His ways so much higher than all of ours combined?

'GOD couldn't have done these things'
Sounds more like us trying to rationalize something we simply can't comprehend

So all of it is literally true?
Or is there room for interpretation?

You say he is beyond comprehension so maybe
don't be so sure you know why it says what it does.

 

[Estrid]

This does not mean anything to me, AV. You have not rebuked me or made me fear for my soul or any of those things. I do not believe in your religion, AV. I do not believe that your holy book has any sacred truth above any other text written by people. Quoting your holy book to me is an exercise in futility. I do not care what you believe about your holy book, AV.

A not an untypical example of misoverestimation of self.

 

[Carl Emerson]

So all of it is literally true?
Or is there room for interpretation?

You say he is beyond comprehension so maybe
don't be so sure you know why it says what it does.

God breathed and literally true are different matters.

There is no place for human interpretation - the Holy Spirit opens the eyes of our understanding.

Beyond comprehension is no reason to doubt what we are given to understand.

 

[Estrid]

God breathed and literally true are different matters.

There is no place for human interpretation - the Holy Spirit opens the eyes of our understanding.

Beyond comprehension is no reason to doubt what we are given to understand.

The spirit you refer to- why are there 40 000
sects with different I terpretations?

Do you interpret the "flood" story as literal?

 

[AV1611VET]

You say he is beyond comprehension so maybe don't be so sure you know why it says what it does.

God gave us the Bible and told us to interpret It.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

 

[AV1611VET]

The spirit you refer to - why are there 40,000 sects with different interpretations?

Three reasons:

1. Some oppose God.

Psalm 56:5 Every day they wrest my words: all their thoughts are against me for evil.

2. Some are unlearned.

3. Some are unstable.

2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Do you interpret the "flood" story as literal?

Yes.

 

[Lost Witness]

People do. The Bible was written by people.

The bible was written by people and authored by the Holy Spirit.
Its those same people that wrote the bible who did so in obedience of the voice of God through the Holy Spirit.
GOD is the author of the Bible.
They sought not their own glory, no they came to bare testimony to who the LORD is.
To bare witness to him and to make him known to those who have come to an end of themselves.
To the 'meek'

 

[Carl Emerson]

The spirit you refer to- why are there 40 000
sects with different I terpretations?

Do you interpret the "flood" story as literal?

Jesus did...

 

[Estrid]

Jesus did...

So much the worse for any credibility he might have had.


Or for any claims of divine guidance for your right - readin"
of scrip.

 

[JohnEmmett]

So much the worse for any credibility he might have had.

“in the first place, you remember one deluge only, whereas there were a number of them.”

Spoken by a priest of Egypt

― Plato, Timaeus

 

[Carl Emerson]

So much the worse for any credibility he might have had.


Or for any claims of divine guidance for your right - readin"
of scrip.

Response predictable...

Have a great day.