Trump is right, fiscally it makes sense to build a wall blocking Mexico

[Red Fox]

The emotion of illegal immigration overshadows rationality. The irony I cannot get past is a bunch of fiscal conservatives who cry for reduced government spending want to spend a trillion dollars on doing away with these people. They don't take into account the jobless void they will leave not to mention the giant hit the GDP will take, thus making the situation even worse.

 

[JGG]

Honestly, you remind me of those black people who are still mad because their ancestors were brought here as slaves. Even though all of that was over a very long time ago...and they have attained "equal rights" with all that entails. And now, we have them shooting and killing police officers for no apparent reason

Why, oh why, oh why, would you write this down for all to see? It does explain a lot though.

 

[JustOneWay]

I'm imagining something like the East-West German border during the Cold War, continuous chainlink fence and an infantryman every 50 metres.

The cost to hire, train, equip, and pay them will be more in the long run than simply building a fence. Does the average person from Wisconsin understand that there is really nothing at the border except mostly barren desert?

 

[Armoured]

Why, oh why, oh why, would you write this down for all to see? It does explain a lot though.

Don't criticise honesty.

 

[JGG]

That Canadian 'illegals' aren't really a problem.

I'm confused. Canadian illegals are not a problem? I thought the issue was illegal immigration. If illegal immigrants aren't the problem, what is the problem? Mexicans?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Well, admittedly, hang around the fort NDNs, like those who have casinos and take money from the government, have always been a problem and an embarrassment.

Like it or not they are the voice of Native Americans today to the general public. Also, the States collect millions in taxes and fees from Indian gaming. Money flows to the government, not the other way.

 

[Armoured]

The cost to hire, train, equip, and pay them will be more in the long run than simply building a fence.

That's why I keep asking about it. This idea "well we'll just build a fence, and have the Army look after it" is, with the best will in the world, a touch naiive, shall we say?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Again I must mention that more than half of the illegals have come over legally, and did not have to sneak in.

True, that's another aspect of the problem.

 

[JustOneWay]

That's why I keep asking about it.

It is the right argument to make.

So far, the only thing I agree with Trump and his plans are to more closely monitor immigrants in the country on visas....

Then again those people aren't really the problem.

 

[Red Fox]

I'm confused. Canadian illegals are not a problem? I thought the issue was illegal immigration. If illegal immigrants aren't the problem, what is the problem? Mexicans?

You nailed it, although many conservatives will absolutely refuse to admit it.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I'm confused. Canadian illegals are not a problem? I thought the issue was illegal immigration. If illegal immigrants aren't the problem, what is the problem? Mexicans?

Illegal Canadians are counted in the thousands, not the millions. They also don't overwhelm our hospitals, schools, and jails.

 

[JGG]

Exactly....

Poutine is such a scarey thing

We prefer to call it a "heart attack salad".

 

[Armoured]

It is the right argument to make.

I'm not even making an argument, simply asking a question. The defensiveness in the face of which does rather speak volumes.

 

[JGG]

Illegal Canadians are counted in the thousands, not the millions. They also don't overwhelm our hospitals, schools, and jails.

So, would you be okay with illegal immigration in moderation?

 

[Armoured]

Illegal Canadians are counted in the thousands, not the millions. They also don't overwhelm our hospitals, schools, and jails.

Do Mexicans "overwhelm our hospitals, schools, and jails."?

Like really? Does this actually happen?

 

[TheBarrd]

Why, oh why, oh why, would you write this down for all to see? It does explain a lot though.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/29/us/texas-sheriffs-deputy-shot-gas-station/
This is why.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ose-to-chant-during-march-with-police-escort/
And this is why

In the name of the seven hells...don't we have enough going on in our country as it is?
Do we really need to import more problems?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

So, would you be okay with illegal immigration in moderation?

No.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Do Mexicans "overwhelm our hospitals, schools, and jails."?

Like really? Does this actually happen?

It sure does. Just Google it by subject.

 

[JGG]

Don't criticise honesty.

I suppose...But how do people make comments like that, and then get defensive when they are accused of being racist? Can of worms...

 

[JGG]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/29/us/texas-sheriffs-deputy-shot-gas-station/
This is why.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ose-to-chant-during-march-with-police-escort/
And this is why

In the name of the seven hells...don't we have enough going on in our country as it is?
Do we really need to import more problems?

That is why what? That's why it's okay to say that black people kill police officers?