Trump is right, fiscally it makes sense to build a wall blocking Mexico

[ChristJudgeOfAll]

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/donald-trump-immigration-cost-20150818

The wall would cost roughly 6 billion.

While the cost of illegal immigrants is 113 billion PER YEAR.

http://www.fairus.org/publications/...llegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

That means if the wall can block out 5% of the people crossing, it'd be well paid for.

 

[JustOneWay]

You need to reevaluate your math.

 

[Armoured]

$6 million? You can't get a couple of kilometres of highway for that much. What about upkeep? What about manning? You think a wall sitting in the middle of the desert with out surveilance is going to stop anyone for more than a couple of minutes?

"Here we are setting out to try to secure a new life in America, leaving our home and families and everything we hold dear... but uh-oh, we forgot to bring a ladder or a pickaxe".

As for $113 billion a year, that seems... a lot... unless we take enforcement costs into account, at which point, we're back to asking about manning of the wall.

 

[JustOneWay]

The first joke about Trump's plan is Trump. The second joke is he thinks Mexico will pay for it.

 

[amanuensis63]

That means if the wall can block out 5% of the people crossing, it'd be well paid for.

Really? Because the people who purchase their labor at near slave-wages here on this side would probably disagree.

That's the real problem. The wall is intended to stop the Mexicans...what really needs to be stopped is American thirst for cheap near slave-wage labor.

Who is more culpable? The rich man who doesn't want to pay a human wage to get his yard done or the poor man who is willing to sell himself into that slavery?

 

[cow451]

$6 million? You can't get a couple of kilometres of highway for that much. What about upkeep? What about manning? You think a wall sitting in the middle of the desert with out surveilance is going to stop anyone for more than a couple of minutes?

"Here we are setting out to try to secure a new life in America, leaving our home and families and everything we hold dear... but uh-oh, we forgot to bring a ladder or a pickaxe".

As for $113 billion a year, that seems... a lot... unless we take enforcement costs into account, at which point, we're back to asking about manning of the wall.

The cheap price tag is possible because Trump will hire Mexicans to build it.

 

[Armoured]

The cheap price tag is possible because Trump will hire Mexicans to build it.

Well there's you answer, hire cheap Mexicans for your border patrol.

 

[NightHawkeye]

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/donald-trump-immigration-cost-20150818

The wall would cost roughly 6 billion.

While the cost of illegal immigrants is 113 billion PER YEAR.

http://www.fairus.org/publications/...llegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

That means if the wall can block out 5% of the people crossing, it'd be well paid for.

I'd expect Trump to award the contract to a lower cost bidder.

 

[cow451]

I'd expect Trump to award the contract to a lower cost bidder.

To distance himself from the use of Mexicans for cheap labor.

 

[NightHawkeye]

To distance himself from the use of Mexicans for cheap labor.

LOL, he did say Mexico would pay for it.

 

[cow451]

LOL, he did say Mexico would pay for it.

But not how he's going to make that happen.

 

[Albion]

Frankly, whether President Trump builds the wall or combats the problem in another way isn't going to matter to the voters. What they want done is SOMETHING that will make a difference, and few of the other candidates show much interest in that. This is why Trump jumped to the top of the polls soon after his declaration of candidacy.

 

[The Cadet]

I feel the need to point out that most non-partisan estimates (that is: estimates not produced by think-tanks whose statement of purpose is to demand harsher illegal immigration enforcement) are between one and two orders of magnitude less.

 

[USincognito]

$6 million? You can't get a couple of kilometres of highway for that much. What about upkeep? What about manning?

The cost isn't in the wall itself, it's building, staffing and maintaining the Jaegers.

 

[Vylo]

LOL, he did say Mexico would pay for it.

And if the quality is anything like his schools, the wall will start to collapse about a year in.

 

[Ken-1122]

Who is more culpable? The rich man who doesn't want to pay a human wage to get his yard done or the poor man who is willing to sell himself into that slavery?

It doesn't matter who is more culpable, what matters is that they are both stopped.

Ken

 

[Red Fox]

The cheap price tag is possible because Trump will hire Mexicans to build it.

Well there's you answer, hire cheap Mexicans for your border patrol.

 

[JGG]

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/donald-trump-immigration-cost-20150818

The wall would cost roughly 6 billion.

While the cost of illegal immigrants is 113 billion PER YEAR.

http://www.fairus.org/publications/...llegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

That means if the wall can block out 5% of the people crossing, it'd be well paid for.

Roughly 40% of illegal immigrants are not Mexican, and not all Mexican illegals actually enter the country illegally.

As for cost, the fence has already cost $7 billion, so remember, it will cost $6 billion more. And let's not ignore that the part that has been done already is more or less the easier part to do. There's barren desert and mountain to build a wall on, and that's going to get expensive.

As for $113 billion per year, that number is questionable. Depending on who you ask, illegals cost between $3 billion a year, and $345 billion a year, so there's hardly a recognized final number. On top of that, some illegals actually pay taxes! And then finally, once again, just putting up a wall is not going to stop illegals from getting in, and the ones who cost us money are more likely to be the ones who overstay their visas.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Those who oppose the fence are like people who make a big mess out anything they do so they won't have to do it ever again. Smart.

 

[JustOneWay]

Those who oppose the fence are like people who make a big mess out anything they do so they won't have to do it ever again. Smart.

Well that broad brush made no sense. People oppose it for a wide variety of reasons. Human rights, economic reasons, environmental, cost effectiveness.....many different reasons.