Zionism, A Threat to Stability in the Middle East or the Only Way to Create It

[RDKirk]

The US should invade Saudi Arabia, your correct on that, however the US being a country that stands for its own personal interests, will never do that. China and North Korea aren't openly at war with the US like Iran is, although relations are strained they haven’t declared war on the US, Iran has and is using Syria as a military base, not to mention China and North Korea aren’t gassing and murdering their own people on a massive scale.

So you admit that US action is not based on justice or righteousness, but pecuniary interest. And it's pecuniary interest because Saudi Arabia is the state that propels all the terrorism that occurs in the West. All of it. Iran--none of it.

The US went to war against Iran, not the other way around. The US has had Iran under attack since the early 50s. Right now, the US government is whipping up sentiment to attack Iran for nothing Iran has ever done to the US--and there is no justice or righteousness behind that. It's nothing but the love of money.

North Korea has been killing its own people on a scale that is unheard of in modern history, yes, even including the Third Reich.

 

[Barney2.0]

So you admit that US action is not based on justice or righteousness, but pecuniary interest. And it's pecuniary interest because Saudi Arabia is the state that propels all the terrorism that occurs in the West. All of it. Iran--none of it.

The US went to war against Iran, not the other way around. The US has had Iran under attack since the early 50s. Right now, the US government is whipping up sentiment to attack Iran for nothing Iran has ever done to the US--and there is no justice or righteousness behind that. It's nothing but the love of money.

North Korea has been killing its own people on a scale that is unheard of in modern history, yes, even including the Third Reich.

I disagree on your statement regarding Iran, however I never claimed the actions of the US as based on justice or righteousness.

 

[RDKirk]

I disagree on your statement regarding Iran, however I never claimed the actions of the US as based on justice or righteousness.

So who fired the first shot? The US did. Who has killed more civilians? The US has killed more Iranian civilians than the Iranians have killed American civilians.

Where the US and Iran have come into conflict has always been in the territory bordering Iran--not anywhere near America--and always where Americans have no business being. If the US did not have troops in Iraq, Syria, or Afghanistan, there wouldn't be any contact with Iran. They aren't sending troops here, we're sending troops there.

 

[Barney2.0]

So who fired the first shot? The US did. Who has killed more people? The US has killed more Iranians than the Iranians have killed Americans.

Technically the Iranians did with the revolution and support of terrorism.

 

[RDKirk]

Technically the Iranians did with the revolution and support of terrorism.

No, you're wrong. The Americans fired the first shot by assassinating Iran's first elected president.

Then the US installed and supported a ruthless dictator for 30 years. The Iranian revolution was justified--the US had no business maintaining a dictator in another country.

Iran has not supported terrorism against the US or Europe--Saudi Arabia does that. If Americans stayed out of Iran's back yard, there wouldn't be a conflict.

Yet, political interests in the US are gearing for war against Iran and have people convinced that Iran is the greatest enemy of the US...which is utter poppycock.

 

[Barney2.0]

No, you're wrong. The Americans fired the first shot by assassinating Iran's first elected president.

Then the US installed and supported a ruthless dictator for 30 years. The Iranian revolution was justified--the US had no business maintaining a dictator in another country.

Iran has not supported terrorism against the US or Europe--Saudi Arabia does that. If Americans stayed out of Iran's back yard, there wouldn't be a conflict.

Yet, political interests in the US are gearing for war against Iran and have people convinced that Iran is the greatest enemy of the US...which is utter poppycock.

Both Saudi and Iran do that, Iran supports Hezbollah a violent terrorist group that ruined a whole country, they support Shia Islamist terrorism in Iraq. The Iranian revolution just put another and worse dictator in power.

 

[RDKirk]

Both Saudi and Iran do that, Iran supports Hezbollah a violent terrorist group that ruined a whole country, they support Shia Islamist terrorism in Iraq. The Iranian revolution just put another and worse dictator in power.

The terrorism Iran has supported has been confined to the Middle East--where Americans would do better to be out of anyway. The terrorism that Saudi Arabia has supported engulfs the entire world. Who created the ideology and provided the money and the manpower for 9/11? That was Saudi Arabia.

Sorry, but Iran's current leadership is not worse than the dictator that the US installed, but even if they were, they're Iran's dictators and not the business of the US.

 

[Barney2.0]

The terrorism Iran has supported has been confined to the Middle East--where Americans would do better to be out of anyway. The terrorism that Saudi Arabia has supported engulfs the entire world. Who created the ideology and provided the money and the manpower for 9/11? That was Saudi Arabia.

Sorry, but Iran's current leadership is not worse than the dictator that the US installed, but even if they were, they're Iran's dictators and not the business of the US.

Since Iran is threatening two allies of the US in the Middle East, whether or not you view it as just is your opinion, however the US like it or not has a right to intervene if it’s allies are threatened.