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[Guide To The Bible]

Shalom Guide To The Bible, did you understand what I wrote to Allah 27? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

Shalom, Can you provide a link please.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Hey, just prove to me with scripture that the days of the moon begins its count on any other day of the week aside from the 4th Day of the Week (Genesis 1:14-19) and that the Sabbath is not on the 7th Day of the Week (Genesis 2:1-3) but, instead on the 8th Day of the Moon as you falsely believe.

Okay, look I'll let you have the last word after this post. I don't mind what you say about our impasse and we will both move on with our lives. God bless.

 

[ImAHebrew]

Shalom, Can you provide a link please.

Shalom Guide To The Bible, you QUOTED what I wrote to Allah27 in your post to me, so for me to provide you a link, just look at your post to me. But if you want, here is what I wrote to Alla27, that you quoted:

Shabbat Shalom Alla27, good question, and here is the simple answer. Elohim commanded the "Ordinance of the Torah," and in this Ordinance, a Sprinkling would be required UPON the UNCLEAN, on the Third AND Seventh days. That Sprinkling is Elohim SPEAKING to mankind, which He did ON the Third day, starting with Noah, and ending at about 100 AD. That Third day was extended to be almost TWO full days (2000 years) so that He could DEFEAT His ENEMIES (Joshua 10:13), and then the Seventh day Sprinkling. So be prepared to HEAR His Voice, should He start to SPEAK/Sprinkle/Cleanse you with the WATER of His Word, which SEPARATES a sinner FROM their sins (Numbers 19:9), so that you can be cleansed and be LED in the Way of Righteousness, forsaking iniquity and evil (Ezekiel 36:22-38). So Alla27, think not that the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will REMAIN silent for very much longer as the Seventh Day is commencing. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew

Now, if you do grasp what I wrote to Alla27, it might help you understand your question to me. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

 

[ImAHebrew]

Okay, look I'll let you have the last word after this post. I don't mind what you say about our impasse and we will both move on with our lives. God bless.

Shalom Guide To The Bible, concerning the "Lunar" Sabbath, versus the 7th Day of the Week Sabbath, have you considered Luke 24:21? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Shalom Guide To The Bible, concerning the "Lunar" Sabbath, versus the 7th Day of the Week Sabbath, have you considered Luke 24:21? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

My brother, my brother...praise YHWH for that piece of scripture for this lines up perfectly with His Calendar metioned by Enoch and Moses!

 

[ImAHebrew]

My brother, my brother...praise YHWH for that piece of scripture for this lines up perfectly with His Calendar metioned by Enoch and Moses!

Shalom YHWH_will_uplift, how so, can you explain? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Shalom YHWH_will_uplift, how so, can you explain? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

According to Genesis 1:1-2:3 the luminaries were created on the 4th Day of the Week making it the 1st Day of the 1st Month:

Month 01
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_________01 02 03 04
05 06 07 08 09 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30_______

Accordingto scripture Passover would be observed on Tuesday which is the day Jesus was buried. Jesus/Yeshua said that after three days and nights in the heart of the earth would He rise: Wednesday to Friday would make three days and nights: therefore He rose on Friday morning:

Buried Evening 14th = 0 Days 1 Night
15th Day = 1 Day 2 Nights
16th Day = 2 Days 3 Nights
17th Day = 3 Days 3 Nights

This is correct as the women did prepared that spices before the sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Later in in Luke 24 we read that the women had waited until the third day to return to the tomb (in anticipation of the Jesus' fulfillment of His prophecy) and find it to be empty and are told by an angel that He rose from the dead; the two men run into Jesus and tell them that they are sad for they did not believe that Jesus rose from the dead: being that the day they saw Him was the third day (Luke 24:1-21ff.). It is important to note that the women could not have carried the spices with them on the Sabbath because they are commanded to not carry burdens or bury the dead; and, Jesus could not have cooked the broiled fish with His apostles.
I have to correct my posts concerning Jesus rising on the Sabbath as the math would not match up with scripture in Luke 24:1-21ff.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Shalom Guide To The Bible, concerning the "Lunar" Sabbath, versus the 7th Day of the Week Sabbath, have you considered Luke 24:21? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

Yes this was Day 16 month 1 (Aviv) —9th April 30 AD—The day of First Fruits and Jesus’ resurrection day that fulfilled the first fruits feast of the Lord

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Yes this was Day 16 month 1 (Aviv) —9th April 30 AD—The day of First Fruits and Jesus’ resurrection day that fulfilled the first fruits feast of the Lord

Where do you get your false information from? Your information contradicts scripture yet...again:

"Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."
-1 Corinthians 5:6-8

It's clear that Christ fulfilled Passover not the First Fruits: especially as First Fruits would have occured on the 26th Day of the 1st Month which is way past His resurrection of three days three nights. And let's not forget that the first month of the year begins in March not April.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Where do you get your false information from? Your information contradicts scripture yet...again:

"Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."
-1 Corinthians 5:6-8

It's clear that Christ fulfilled Passover not the First Fruits: especially as First Fruits would have occured on the 26th Day of the 1st Month which is way past His resurrection of three days three nights. And let's not forget that the first month of the year begins in March not ApIril.

If you really think first fruits is on day 26 Aviv. Then it just shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subject and combined with your pride shows why we are at the impasse we are at. This is such an easy one that:

I AM HOPING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HERE WILL CHIME IN AND CONFIRM TO YOU THAT THE DAY OF FIRST FRUITS IS DAY 16 AVIV.

That way you will begin to see that you are wrong about many things you believe about God's Calendar, as it is clear this is an issue of human nature and just not wanting to back down from a debate:

Leviticus 23:4-16
4 ‘These are the LORD’S appointed festivals, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times: 5 The LORD’S Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. 6 On the fifteenth day of that month the LORD’S Festival of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7 the first day [Day 15] hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 8 For seven days present a food offering to the LORD. And on the seventh day [Day 21] hold a sacred assembly, and do no regular work.’ 9 The LORD said to Moses, 10 “Speak to the Israelite's and say to them: ‘When you enter the land I am going to give you, and you reap its harvest, bring to the priest a sheaf of the first grain your harvest [The first grain of the barley harvest]. 11 He is to wave the sheaf before the LORD so it will be accepted on your behalf; the priest is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath [Day 16]. 12 On the day you wave the sheaf, you must sacrifice as a burnt offering to the LORD a lamb a year old without defect, 13 together with its grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour [Made from the new grain of the barley harvest] mixed with olive oil, a food offering presented to the LORD, a pleasing aroma, and its drink offering of a quarter of a hin of wine. 14 You must not eat any bread, or roasted new grain, until the very day you bring this offering to your God [Day 16]. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live. 15 ‘From the day after the Sabbath [Day 16], the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, count off seven full weeks. 16 Count off fifty days up to the day after the seventh Sabbath, and then present an offering of new grain to the LORD. [The first grain of the wheat harvest]

So here it shows God is naming day 15 of the first month as a Sabbath and day 16 was called the day of First Fruits,
when a sheaf of the new barley harvest was waved before the LORD and an offering of fine barley flour was burnt on
the altar of incense in the temple. Day 16 is the day Jesus resurrected as the first fruits of the harvest of souls from the World in fulfilment of the feast, that had been practices for over 1000 years. Most Jews failed to see Jesus was the fulfilment of Passover and of First Fruits but a minority did and they were His followers. Today is no different and most people fail to see that Jesus fulfilled these feast but a minority do. Somethings never change.

 

[ImAHebrew]

According to Genesis 1:1-2:3 the luminaries were created on the 4th Day of the Week making it the 1st Day of the 1st Month:

Month 01
01 02 03 04 05 06 07
_________01 02 03 04
05 06 07 08 09 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30_______

Accordingto scripture Passover would be observed on Tuesday which is the day Jesus was buried. Jesus/Yeshua said that after three days and nights in the heart of the earth would He rise: Wednesday to Friday would make three days and nights: therefore He rose on Friday morning:

Buried Evening 14th = 0 Days 1 Night
15th Day = 1 Day 2 Nights
16th Day = 2 Days 3 Nights
17th Day = 3 Days 3 Nights

This is correct as the women did prepared that spices before the sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Later in in Luke 24 we read that the women had waited until the third day to return to the tomb (in anticipation of the Jesus' fulfillment of His prophecy) and find it to be empty and are told by an angel that He rose from the dead; the two men run into Jesus and tell them that they are sad for they did not believe that Jesus rose from the dead: being that the day they saw Him was the third day (Luke 24:1-21ff.). It is important to note that the women could not have carried the spices with them on the Sabbath because they are commanded to not carry burdens or bury the dead; and, Jesus could not have cooked the broiled fish with His apostles.
I have to correct my posts concerning Jesus rising on the Sabbath as the math would not match up with scripture in Luke 24:1-21ff.

Shalom YHWH_will_uplift, several things. Are we not told that the BEGINNING of Moons/Months was AT the Exodus:

Exo 12:2
(2) This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.

Have you ever considered that THIS beginning of Moons/Months was the BEGINNING of a PEOPLE starting to REFLECT the Light of ELohim?

Secondly, Luke 24:21 does not say what most think it says. Those two Disciples were distraught because the Third Day had come and gone, and it wasn't that they were distraught because it was still the MORNING of the Third day. Here is a proper rendering of that verse:

"But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. But even more so, together with all these things, today leads (G71) the third day away (G575) which (G3739) these things were done."

In their mind, it was the FOURTH Day since those things were done, as that FOURTH Day was leading the Third Day away. The key in understanding this properly is with G71 which the translators rendered "is," and that is not what it means. G71 means to lead, and THAT day was leading the Third Day AWAY, NOT that it was the Third Day. Does this make any sense to you? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Shalom YHWH_will_uplift, several things. Are we not told that the BEGINNING of Moons/Months was AT the Exodus:

Exo 12:2
(2) This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.

Have you ever considered that THIS beginning of Moons/Months was the BEGINNING of a PEOPLE starting to REFLECT the Light of ELohim?

Secondly, Luke 24:21 does not say what most think it says. Those two Disciples were distraught because the Third Day had come and gone, and it wasn't that they were distraught because it was still the MORNING of the Third day. Here is a proper rendering of that verse:

"But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. But even more so, together with all these things, today leads (G71) the third day away (G575) which (G3739) these things were done."

In their mind, it was the FOURTH Day since those things were done, as that FOURTH Day was leading the Third Day away. The key in understanding this properly is with G71 which the translators rendered "is," and that is not what it means. G71 means to lead, and THAT day was leading the Third Day AWAY, NOT that it was the Third Day. Does this make any sense to you? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

The problem with your analysis is that you completely ignore the basic math and measuring day and night as described in Genesis 1:1-31 I've made the layout simple, clear, and concise for all to see.

If you really think first fruits is on day 26 Aviv. Then it just shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subject and combined with your pride shows why we are at the impasse we are at. This is such an easy one that:

I AM HOPING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HERE WILL CHIME IN AND CONFIRM TO YOU THAT THE DAY OF FIRST FRUITS IS DAY 16 AVIV.

That way you will begin to see that you are wrong about many things you believe about God's Calendar, as it is clear this is an issue of human nature and just not wanting to back down from a debate:

Leviticus 23:4-16
4 ‘These are the LORD’S appointed festivals, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times: 5 The LORD’S Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. 6 On the fifteenth day of that month the LORD’S Festival of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7 the first day [Day 15] hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 8 For seven days present a food offering to the LORD. And on the seventh day [Day 21] hold a sacred assembly, and do no regular work.’ 9 The LORD said to Moses, 10 “Speak to the Israelite's and say to them: ‘When you enter the land I am going to give you, and you reap its harvest, bring to the priest a sheaf of the first grain your harvest [The first grain of the barley harvest]. 11 He is to wave the sheaf before the LORD so it will be accepted on your behalf; the priest is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath [Day 16]. 12 On the day you wave the sheaf, you must sacrifice as a burnt offering to the LORD a lamb a year old without defect, 13 together with its grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour [Made from the new grain of the barley harvest] mixed with olive oil, a food offering presented to the LORD, a pleasing aroma, and its drink offering of a quarter of a hin of wine. 14 You must not eat any bread, or roasted new grain, until the very day you bring this offering to your God [Day 16]. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live. 15 ‘From the day after the Sabbath [Day 16], the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, count off seven full weeks. 16 Count off fifty days up to the day after the seventh Sabbath, and then present an offering of new grain to the LORD. [The first grain of the wheat harvest]

So here it shows God is naming day 15 of the first month as a Sabbath and day 16 was called the day of First Fruits,
when a sheaf of the new barley harvest was waved before the LORD and an offering of fine barley flour was burnt on
the altar of incense in the temple. Day 16 is the day Jesus resurrected as the first fruits of the harvest of souls from the World in fulfilment of the feast, that had been practices for over 1000 years. Most Jews failed to see Jesus was the fulfilment of Passover and of First Fruits but a minority did and they were His followers. Today is no different and most people fail to see that Jesus fulfilled these feast but a minority do. Somethings never change.

The problem you face is that 50 days after the Sabbath on the 15th or the 21st Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread will give you 7 Complete Sabbaths but, the 7th Sabbath in either case will not bring you the morrow after the seventh Sabbath has been completed. Only counting 50 Days from the 26th of Abib will give you this reckoning (assuming you're using the Sun, and not the Moon, to count your days).

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

If you really think first fruits is on day 26 Aviv. Then it just shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subject and combined with your pride shows why we are at the impasse we are at. This is such an easy one that:

I AM HOPING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HERE WILL CHIME IN AND CONFIRM TO YOU THAT THE DAY OF FIRST FRUITS IS DAY 16 AVIV.

That way you will begin to see that you are wrong about many things you believe about God's Calendar, as it is clear this is an issue of human nature and just not wanting to back down from a debate:

Leviticus 23:4-16
4 ‘These are the LORD’S appointed festivals, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times: 5 The LORD’S Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. 6 On the fifteenth day of that month the LORD’S Festival of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7 the first day [Day 15] hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 8 For seven days present a food offering to the LORD. And on the seventh day [Day 21] hold a sacred assembly, and do no regular work.’ 9 The LORD said to Moses, 10 “Speak to the Israelite's and say to them: ‘When you enter the land I am going to give you, and you reap its harvest, bring to the priest a sheaf of the first grain your harvest [The first grain of the barley harvest]. 11 He is to wave the sheaf before the LORD so it will be accepted on your behalf; the priest is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath [Day 16]. 12 On the day you wave the sheaf, you must sacrifice as a burnt offering to the LORD a lamb a year old without defect, 13 together with its grain offering of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour [Made from the new grain of the barley harvest] mixed with olive oil, a food offering presented to the LORD, a pleasing aroma, and its drink offering of a quarter of a hin of wine. 14 You must not eat any bread, or roasted new grain, until the very day you bring this offering to your God [Day 16]. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live. 15 ‘From the day after the Sabbath [Day 16], the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, count off seven full weeks. 16 Count off fifty days up to the day after the seventh Sabbath, and then present an offering of new grain to the LORD. [The first grain of the wheat harvest]

So here it shows God is naming day 15 of the first month as a Sabbath and day 16 was called the day of First Fruits,
when a sheaf of the new barley harvest was waved before the LORD and an offering of fine barley flour was burnt on
the altar of incense in the temple. Day 16 is the day Jesus resurrected as the first fruits of the harvest of souls from the World in fulfilment of the feast, that had been practices for over 1000 years. Most Jews failed to see Jesus was the fulfilment of Passover and of First Fruits but a minority did and they were His followers. Today is no different and most people fail to see that Jesus fulfilled these feast but a minority do. Somethings never change.

In addition if you read 1 Enoch and the DSS then you would understand immediately that your April Abib is false as the equinox begins the day before the first day of the year: that is the 31st Day of the 6th Month (September 20, 2016) and the 31st Day of the 12th Month (March 22, 2016). Please visit our brother's YouTube channel JerryMorris for proof of this with his sundial.

 

[DennisTate]

Hi ImAHebrew. Can you please tell me if you think this is Anti-Semitic?:

I've been to Israel and think it is the best country in the World, even better than my own and although I love the country and it's people what most people don't realise is that not only is Israel about to get their third temple and are on there way to becoming the World's top Superpower but once the temple is built it will have a new High Priest who will actually rule over Israel as well, as by that stage they will be a fully fledged theocracy. He will be the most powerful man in the world (To some degree) and will fulfil End Times Prophesy as he will also be in charge of the second oldest religion on Earth (Judaism) and will therefore be preaching that the Jewish Messiah (Messiah son of Joseph ) will soon come to the Earth but unwittingly or otherwise what he won't realise is that this is a false prophecy because it is Jesus who is returning, which will make him the False Prophet who is also known as the Worthless Shepherd in Zechariah 11:17 and the Dajjal in Islamic prophesy. Just remember that each time you support Israel you are not only helping to fulfil End Times prophecy but also the second oldest false religion in the World. Here is the news of the selection process of the high priest that has begun:

http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/74772/sanhedrin-appoints-high-priest-preparation-third-temple/?utm_source=Breaking+Israel+News&utm_campaign=9db55e7d74-BIN_#ddqfoMOj08RkLhXk.97 … …

More info on the third temple:
New Details Emerging on the Rebuilt Altar of the Jewish Holy Temple

On the other hand......
is the prediction of the G-d of Abraham and H-s Messiah raising up
King David somehow....... .accurate?

And.... will the most feeble resident of Jerusalem become
comparable to ancient King David?

And... will the least Christian..... become greater in many ways
than John the Baptist?

Zechariah 12:8

"In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."

Is this statement in the Christian Bible a validation for that verse in Zechariah?

Luke 7:28

"For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he."

 

[DennisTate]

What do you think of this writing on this topic?
Could King David be raised up for the Jews decades before second coming of Jesus?

 

[DennisTate]

In my opinion... if a Christian doubts the ability of
G-d to raise up the most feeble resident of literal Jerusalem to
a level of understanding, wisdom and even physical strength comparable to
King David.........
then are we not by implication doubting the ability of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to raise up
the least Christian to a place of understanding, wisdom and physical discipline and control.... comparable to John the Baptist who so impressed so many Jewish scholars of the first century?

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

In my opinion... if a Christian doubts the ability of
G-d to raise up the most feeble resident of literal Jerusalem to
a level of understanding, wisdom and even physical strength comparable to
King David.........
then are we not by implication doubting the ability of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to raise up
the least Christian to a place of understanding, wisdom and physical discipline and control.... comparable to John the Baptist who so impressed so many Jewish scholars of the first century?

Awesome connection between two very subtle and seemingly unrelated passages.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

On the other hand......
is the prediction of the G-d of Abraham and H-s Messiah raising up
King David somehow....... .accurate?

And.... will the most feeble resident of Jerusalem become
comparable to ancient King David?

And... will the least Christian..... become greater in many ways
than John the Baptist?

Zechariah 12:8

"In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."

Is this statement in the Christian Bible a validation for that verse in Zechariah?

Luke 7:28

"For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he."

On the other hand......
is the prediction of the G-d of Abraham and H-s Messiah raising up
King David somehow....... .accurate? Yes it's true

And.... will the most feeble resident of Jerusalem become
comparable to ancient King David? Yes
And... will the least Christian..... become greater in many ways
than John the Baptist? No, it doesn't mean that.

Zechariah 12:8

"In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."

Is this statement in the Christian Bible a validation for that verse in Zechariah? No they are not related.

Luke 7:28

"For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he."

 

[DennisTate]

On the other hand......
is the prediction of the G-d of Abraham and H-s Messiah raising up
King David somehow....... .accurate? Yes it's true

And.... will the most feeble resident of Jerusalem become
comparable to ancient King David? Yes
And... will the least Christian..... become greater in many ways
than John the Baptist? No, it doesn't mean that.

Zechariah 12:8

"In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."

Is this statement in the Christian Bible a validation for that verse in Zechariah? No they are not related.

Luke 7:28

"For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he."

But how could these verses be entirely unrelated.....
if the Holy Spirit is poured out on ALL FLESH?

Not only on Christians... not only on Jews... but even animals are affected by what is coming.

Have you read what former Atheist Howard Storm Ph. D. was shown the earth would look like by the year 2185.....(G-d willing)?

 

[DennisTate]

Awesome connection between two very subtle and seemingly unrelated passages.

Thank you for the encouragement in this.

I read "My Descent Into Death" by former Atheist Howard Storm several years ago and what he was shown about the future forced me to rethink much of my understanding of prophecy.