Your Thoughts on Creation & Evolution

[Aman777]

You have not supported your view that his and their refer to Jesus and the trinity. You have merely asserted it. You haven't even referred to a theologian who supports your view-at least then we could read about his or her justification for that rendering. You have offered zero justification for your translation based on grammar tendencies in Hebrew, Greek, or even English.

It is a mere unsupported assertion and can and should be dismissed as such.

I didn't know that telling God's Truth would cause such disagreement. Perhaps you could be more specific in your criticism. Just because your thoughts cannot believe in the kind Jesus made being His and the eternal kind, made by God the Trinity are Their's, is a personal problem. TWO separate kinds should not cause such a rant.

As a descendant of Adam, you entered this Earth at birth. Before you leave this Earth, you MUST be born again Spiritually, by God the Trinity in order to enter God's Kingdom. That is God's Truth. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Or, more likely, there aren't any. Surely you could give a denominational statement of faith or a theological text or article without violating anyone's confidence.

I could send you to my book site but that would be against the rules. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Good thing there's another way we can test for "agreement" via the forum's built-in post ratings feature.

You have over 10,000 posts but only up to 74 tagged with the "agree" icon. That's represents a mere 0.7% of your total posting. Those are some slim numbers.

Even xianghua has more people "agreeing" with his posts, and that's a guy who talks about self-replicating cars. :/

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

 

[Aman777]

What if you're wrong? What if your interpretation of Scripture isn't God's view?

Many different people all make the same claim, that they are interpreting Scripture correctly, yet you wind up with all these contradictory views in the process.

If they're all wrong, what makes you any different?

I show that Genesis, recent scientific discoveries, history, genetics, and math AGREE. NO one else does nor can they refute me. Can you? Of course not. I'm sorry.

 

[Aman777]

Two more questions: Is there any evidence which you would honestly accept as a demonstration of your error? If so, what would that evidence look like?

Simple. The agreement of Scripture with science, history, genetics and math. Is that too high a standard for you? Of course it is.

 

[pitabread]

I show that Genesis, recent scientific discoveries, history, genetics, and math AGREE.

No you don't. You've shown that you disregard anything in those areas that doesn't agree. Which means they don't agree.

By that standard we already know then that your interpretation of the Bible clearly cannot be correct.

Why should anyone listen to you again?

 

[Aman777]

No, science, history, genetics and math do NOT agree with you and you have never shown how they do. You just make the claim, and claims are not evidence.

Since you have chosen to judge my views WHY don't you tell us who put this recently discovered scientific fact in Genesis?

4. Genesis 6:4 shows HOW to make a modern Human by mixing the sons of God (prehistoric people) with Humans (Adam's descendants). This is so successful that we now have some 7.7 Billion living Humans (descendants of Adam) on planet Earth.

In less than 11k years, God will soon have changed 1 Million prehistoric people into some 10 Billion Humans (descendants of Adam). Within every living one of them is the superior intelligence which only God and Adam have Genesis 3:22 AND they also have the DNA of prehistoric people. The flawed ToE doesn't agree with the Truth of God, science, history, genetics nor math. That's God's irrefutable Truth.

 

[Aman777]

Lol, I don't hate God. How could I hate what I consider to be a fictitious character? Does it make any sense for you to hate Darth Vader?

Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Bow now or bow later. It's your decision.

 

[Aman777]

Your ideas are based on an assumption, but you haven't shown that your assumption is correct. Please show that it is correct before trying to use it in your arguments.

The intelligence of a child cannot be changed externally but ONLY by inheritance from it's parents. The ability to learn is inherited, thus one's intelligence is inherited. The ToE relates to physical attributes and NOT to the invisible intelligence of Humans.

 

[Aman777]

The smilie should tell you it was a joke ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Albert?

Einstein.

 

[Aman777]

If you'd really looked up the original Hebrew you'd know that there is no his/their/its. Feel free to use your extensive research to show I'm wrong. If you can't..... well, we'll have all the evidence needed to demonstrate you cannot support your claims. And you, being an honest poster, will admit your error and change your view.

I'd hate to find out you've been lying to us.

Agnostics have nothing to lose by lying. Christians should try to do better. The following verse shows that unbelievers cannot understand what Christians CAN.

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Christians can see things which are hidden to those who are perishing.

 

[Aman777]

No you don't. You've already shown that you disregard anything that doesn't agree. Which means they don't agree.

Just because I reject the false ToE, you mean. The ToE is not true to Scripture, science, history, genetics nor math. Would you like to discuss the details? It would be more interesting than the current discussion. Amen?

 

[pitabread]

Just because I reject the false ToE, you mean.

Oh, it's clearly far more than that.

Just our discussions of the origins of farming and musical instruments shows that you immediately reject findings in science/history that contradict your views.

You can't simultaneously claim everything agrees with you and reject everything that doesn't. That's a logical contradiction.

The ToE is not true to Scripture, science, history, genetics nor math. Would you like to discuss the details? It would be more interesting than the current discussion.

Only if you have something more to offer than unsupported claims and Bible quotes.

Oh and no PRATTs either. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

 

[46AND2]

I didn't know that telling God's Truth would cause such disagreement. Perhaps you could be more specific in your criticism. Just because your thoughts cannot believe in the kind Jesus made being His and the eternal kind, made by God the Trinity are Their's, is a personal problem. TWO separate kinds should not cause such a rant.

As a descendant of Adam, you entered this Earth at birth. Before you leave this Earth, you MUST be born again Spiritually, by God the Trinity in order to enter God's Kingdom. That is God's Truth. Amen?

If all you've got left is to repeatedly plead ignorance about what my position is, when I have already been very specific, it's quite clear that your argument has no merit. I accept your tacit admission that you are wrong, because that's as close as anyone will get to an actual one from you.

 

[Speedwell]

I could send you to my book site but that would be against the rules. Amen?

You wrote a book about it? Amazing. But I would rather see a book, or even an article, that agreed with you written by somebody else.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Simple. The agreement of Scripture with science, history, genetics and math. Is that too high a standard for you? Of course it is.

Last question: Other than you, is there anyone you would accept as the arbiter of that agreement?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Agnostics have nothing to lose by lying. Christians should try to do better. The following verse shows that unbelievers cannot understand what Christians CAN.

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Christians can see things which are hidden to those who are perishing.

Would you care to address what I actually wrote? If not, the conclusion is that you cannot support your argument. Honesty or lies? Which will you choose?

 

[Kylie]

Since you have chosen to judge my views WHY don't you tell us who put this recently discovered scientific fact in Genesis?

4. Genesis 6:4 shows HOW to make a modern Human by mixing the sons of God (prehistoric people) with Humans (Adam's descendants). This is so successful that we now have some 7.7 Billion living Humans (descendants of Adam) on planet Earth.

In less than 11k years, God will soon have changed 1 Million prehistoric people into some 10 Billion Humans (descendants of Adam). Within every living one of them is the superior intelligence which only God and Adam have Genesis 3:22 AND they also have the DNA of prehistoric people. The flawed ToE doesn't agree with the Truth of God, science, history, genetics nor math. That's God's irrefutable Truth.

I'm sorry, I see no scientific facts here.

Please show me where it was recently discovered to be scientific fact that Humans once interbreed with the sons of God, and that the intelligence of modern humans is not caused by DNA/evolution/anything explainable by science.

 

[Kylie]

Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Bow now or bow later. It's your decision.

It always comes down to this, doesn't it? You have no actually argument, so all you can say is, "Ah, one day you'll see!!!!!"

It's really not impressive at all.

 

[Kylie]

The intelligence of a child cannot be changed externally but ONLY by inheritance from it's parents. The ability to learn is inherited, thus one's intelligence is inherited. The ToE relates to physical attributes and NOT to the invisible intelligence of Humans.

This is just wrong. Evolution can result in behaviour patterns and other non-physical attributes perfectly easily. beavers that have been raised in captivity still have the instinct to act out the behaviours they'd use to build dams, even if they've never been taught and never seen a beaver dam. How do you explain this?