Your Thoughts on Creation & Evolution

[Speedwell]

What is one example of a credulous evolutionist argument against the Christian God?

There isn't one. "Evolutionists" don't argue against the Christian God. Some atheists who are also "evolutionists"may argue against the Christian God but they do it on their own behalf, not as "evolutionists." The theory of evolution does not deny the existence of the Christian God. It only inconveniences certain Christian minorities who insist on a literal interpretation of Genesis.

 

[46AND2]

False. Just because you don't see that Jesus and God the Trinity are the two separate "kinds", it's not my fault. Modern translators have "added" their unsupported ideas to what the verses actually say. They also reject the Truths discovered by Science, History, Genetics and Math, preferring instead to study the theological ideas of ancient men who lived more than 3k years ago.

False. Modern translators live in the age of increased knowledge. They have corrected the translators who did NOT live in the age of increased knowledge.

THEY did not add anything. YOU are adding a subject to the sentences with no justification.

You don't like the commas in the KJV, you don't like the "its" in all other versions, and you don't like the lack of reverential capitalization in ALL versions...so you have come up with your OWN version, utterly different than any version in existence, and you don't even know the Hebrew or Greek languages. You MAKE it say whatever you want, instead of understanding what it ACTUALLY says.

Yes. You sir, are the one adding unsupported ideas. It is clear to anyone and everyone, Christians and atheists alike. It's like you're trying to start up your own cult.

The fact that you think ALL translating scholars are wrong, despite your ignorance of the languages being translated, is truly astounding in its hubris.

 

[pitabread]

Today, ole Carl is proclaiming his agreement with Scripture, and wants everyone to think he was always a Creationist. In the end, many will claim to be converted Creationists.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Sure. When I came online in the mid 90s, I thought Mitochondrial Eve was Biblical Eve. LucasPa showed me my error and I have changed my mind. Paul Lucas later called me a child of Satan because I didn't agree with him about godless evolution.

BTW, I don't dance but you should go on Dancing with the Stars.

Let me ask a very direct question:

Is it possible you are wrong about your interpretation of Genesis?

 

[the iconoclast]

There isn't one. "Evolutionists" don't argue against the Christian God. Some atheists who are also "evolutionists"may argue against the Christian God but they do it on their own behalf, not as "evolutionists." The theory of evolution does not deny the existence of the Christian God. It only inconveniences certain Christian minorities who insist on a literal interpretation of Genesis.

Hey hey brother and great to hear from you.

Hey @46AND2 - before we continue - what do you think about this reply from speedwell?

Cheers

 

[Aman777]

False. Modern translators live in the age of increased knowledge. They have corrected the translators who did NOT live in the age of increased knowledge.

THEY did not add anything. YOU are adding a subject to the sentences with no justification.

You don't like the commas in the KJV, you don't like the "its" in all other versions, and you don't like the lack of reverential capitalization in ALL versions...so you have come up with your OWN version, utterly different than any version in existence, and you don't even know the Hebrew or Greek languages. You MAKE it say whatever you want, instead of understanding what it ACTUALLY says.

Yes. You sir, are the one adding unsupported ideas. It is clear to anyone and everyone, Christians and atheists alike. It's like you're trying to start up your own cult.

The fact that you think ALL translating scholars are wrong, despite your ignorance of the languages being translated, is truly astounding in its hubris.

I'm sorry for the judgment you just brought upon yourself. If you want to do a better criticism, try to support your view with a SPECIFIC instance. Otherwise, you run the risk of sounding like our beloved leader.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Otherwise, you run the risk of sounding like our beloved leader.

God?

 

[46AND2]

Hey hey brother and great to hear from you.

Hey @46AND2 - before we continue - what do you think about this reply from speedwell?

Cheers

I agree with his assessment. Evolution has nothing to do with my atheism.

 

[Aman777]

Aman777 said: ↑
Today, ole Carl is proclaiming his agreement with Scripture, and wants everyone to think he was always a Creationist. In the end, many will claim to be converted Creationists.

[QUOTE="pitabread, post: 74292197, member: 394892"WHAT?[/QUOTE]

Sagan is trying to avoid a righteous judgment by claiming to be like me. I'm a converted Creationist, converted from a belief in evolution.

 

[Kylie]

Hey big bear

Im being held up, i cant wait to converse with you.

Hey @Kylie, getting distracted here. This is my third discussion with 46and2 and i like where we are heading.

Hope you 2 are having a wonderful day

Maybe one day you'll surprise me and post something of actual merit.

 

[Kylie]

Sorry, I need to explain the citations to unbelievers:

Sure. Adam was "formed" temporarily by Lord God on the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4-7

Gen 2:7 ¶ And the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed man

Adam was ALSO "created" eternally by God the Trinity on the 6th Day. Genesis 1:27
Gen 1:27 So God created man in His own image,

Genesis 5:1-2 and John 14:16. Hint. Notice that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, of the Trinity are present in each citation. Amen?

It would be easier for you to understand IF you would click on the link.

Links to Bible passages do not show me that your interpretations of those passages are correct.

So, try again. I'm not interested in what the passages say, I'm interested in seeing some source that shows that your interpretation of them is correct. You seem woefully incapable of providing this.

 

[46AND2]

I'm sorry for the judgment you just brought upon yourself. If you want to do a better criticism, try to support your view with a SPECIFIC instance. Otherwise, you run the risk of sounding like our beloved leader.

Um...what? I have only been speaking to you about one SPECIFIC instance.

 

[Kylie]

Amen, and yet you accept the incorrect ideas of Darwin.

Yeah, those ideas which are the foundation of biology and have been tested countless times and produce accurate results and allow predictions to be made...

Yeah, they're just wrong.

Close, but "living" creatures are Eternal creatures created eternally by God the Trinity. Genesis 1:21 The creatures made from the ground are the common ancestors, subject to death, and were made by Lord God/Jesus, the Son of God. Genesis 2:7

Dude, stop going on about your fan theories. I've already told you I don't believe that your interpretation is correct. Stop repeating them unless you can actually show me a source which supports your claims. And no, posting Bible passages and telling me your interpretation of those passages doesn't count.

Take your mouse and click on the light blue citations I have already made OR do you think God just lied to us?

Showing me a passage from the Bible doesn't show that your interpretation of that passage is correct.

And I don't believe in God, something which you surely have figured out by now.

 

[Kylie]

It's not my idea, but it is God's.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon ALL flesh:

Since I have collected many proofs that only God could have possibly written Genesis since it contains details of recent scientific discoveries, which happen in the last days, and NO one can refute a single one of them, and they agree with every other discovered Truth, I will continue to proclaim them until refuted. Want to try?

Are you for real? People have been using passages of the Bible to show that the end of the world is near for centuries, and they've all been wrong. I see nothing to indicate that you aren't among them.

 

[Aman777]

Let me ask a very direct question:

Is it possible you are wrong about your interpretation of Genesis?

That's WHY I'm here. I beg and plead for just one evolutionist to tell us HOW God's superior intelligence got inside Apes but none can. That's because there is but ONE way to INHERIT this superior intelligence since ONLY God and Adam have it. Genesis 3:22 In order to be a Human, you MUST inherit it from your parents. Please tell us another way to change the ability of Humans to know both good and evil. I don't think you can.

 

[46AND2]

I'm sorry for the judgment you just brought upon yourself.

And...are you threatening me? Tsk tsk.

 

[Kylie]

That's WHY I'm here. I beg and plead for just one evolutionist to tell us HOW God's superior intelligence got inside Apes but none can. That's because there is but ONE way to INHERIT this superior intelligence since ONLY God and Adam have it. In order to be a Human, you MUST inherit it from your parents. Please tell us another way to change the ability of Humans to know both good and evil. I don't think you can.

Evolution can explain it. Superior intelligence is a beneficial trait and as such is favoured by natural selection.

There. It's explained. Now stop saying no one can do it, because I just did.

In fact, I will give a demonstration of it. You will find some way to say I am wrong, but your arguments will show a lack of understanding of evolution and/or flawed logic. And when you do so, it will only further prove me correct.

 

[Aman777]

God?

Sorry, but the rules prohibit me from posting our leader's name. He THINKS that he is a god. I'd like to buy him for what he's worth and sell him for what he THINKS he's worth.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

That's WHY I'm here. I beg and plead for just one evolutionist to tell us HOW God's superior intelligence got inside Apes but none can. That's because there is but ONE way to INHERIT this superior intelligence since ONLY God and Adam have it. Genesis 3:22 In order to be a Human, you MUST inherit it from your parents. Please tell us another way to change the ability of Humans to know both good and evil. I don't think you can.

OK, I'll take that as an admission that it is possible you are wrong.

Next question - would you ever admit to being wrong on this forum?

 

[the iconoclast]

I agree with his assessment. Evolution has nothing to do with my atheism.

Hey hey

What is the core of your atheism?