Your Thoughts on Creation & Evolution

[Aman777]

So what? They added the words "his" and "their" too. And YOU added capitals to those words.

Amen. I always try to capitalize His, Their, Trinity, God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Lord and any other term referring to God AND I'm proud of it.

 

[Aman777]

Just the fact you cherry-pick things you think agree with you and ignore everything else is a refutation in and of itself.

Weak reply. Why not just throw up your hands and admit that you CANNOT refute God's Holy Word? Everyone here can see that that the flawed ToE CANNOT stand when measured against God's Truth.

 

[Aman777]

Aman777 said: ↑
God the Father is speaking to Lord God and the Holy Spirit since it takes ALL three to create eternally. Amen?

Citation required.

Sure. Adam was "formed" temporarily by Lord God on the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4-7
Adam was ALSO "created" eternally by God the Trinity on the 6th Day. Genesis 1:27 Genesis 5:1-2 and John 14:16. Hint. Notice that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, of the Trinity are present in each citation. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

People have been saying that they are in the last days of planet Earth for centuries. They've all been wrong, what makes you think you're right?

What is strange is that EVERY person who has ever lived, has lived and died on the present 6th Day/Age. The 6th Day/Age is the Day of Salvation according to Jesus. 2Co 6:2 It's another proof of God. I will add it to the list of Proofs of God. Thanks

The present 6th Day began when Jesus made the beasts of the field, birds and cattle from the dust of the ground. Genesis 2:19 The present 6th Day will NOT end until God's creation is brought to perfection (finished) and ALL Christians (host of Heaven) are safely in the 3rd Heaven. Genesis 2:1 Then, God will rest from ALL of His work of creating Genesis 2:2-3 the perfect Heaven.

 

[46AND2]

Amen. I always try to capitalize His, Their, Trinity, God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Lord and any other term referring to God AND I'm proud of it.

Sure...so does the Young's Literal Translation version of the Bible. Yet they DIDN'T capitalize those words in those verses....because they don't refer to god. They refer to the nouns already mentioned in the sentence.

With your reverential capitalization, you are adding meaning to the text that isn't there.

 

[Aman777]

The big problem you now have is that you have painted yourself into a corner by claiming the translators added to the bible in such away as to alter its meaning (something which is specifically called out as being a sin). Do you want to stick to your claim that the translators sinned and that they have altered the bible? If you do, then you also need to accept that your exegesis is founded on a faulty translation and is, therefore, worthless and wrong. Or do you want to withdraw that claim and accept that the commas do not alter the meaning of the bible in any way? In that case your exegesis is refuted as I have demonstrated. Either way, you lose.

Aman777 will respond with more dishonest dancing, backtracking and handwaving in 3-2-1........

Sorry, but since you have not told us that you have been born again Spiritually, your words ring hollow when compared to God's.

1Co 2:14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

 

[Aman777]

At the time when the King James bible was produced it was normal to separate each item in a list by a comma including before the 'and'. So the commas were not wrong. It is since then that it became good style to omit the comma before the 'and.'

Thanks. The commas are not a problem for me. The problem comes when trying to teach God's Truth to Bungle Bear. I knew they were added by a KJV translator with the old traditional understanding of the ancient Hebrews.

 

[Aman777]

Not to mention people in past centuries have faced far worse conditions than we face today and thus have had far more reason to think they lived in the last days.

Comparatively speaking, the current generation is quite well off.

The current generation is the last generation before Jesus returns and most of them don't believe in Jesus. Therefore, their feeling of being quite well off is about to change. I'm sorry but it's the only way to get them to come to repentance.

 

[Aman777]

I think I missed those, been away for a while. Links?

You seem to be thinking about Science and Genetics. The problem I have with today's scientific consensus is the flawed ToE, which CANNOT explain How or When mindless Nature inserted the Supreme Intelligence of Creation Genesis 3:22 into Apes. Evolutionists claim that Human intelligence can be changed APART from the sexual process, but cannot seem to find ANY evidence of this unsupported assertion.

Genetically, today's Humans (Nephiyl or the descendants of Adam AND prehistoric people (sons of God) Genesis 6:4 have the intelligence of God AND the DNA of prehistoric people and chromosome 2 fusion confirms this. Genesis 6:4 Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Sure...so does the Young's Literal Translation version of the Bible. Yet they DIDN'T capitalize those words in those verses....because they don't refer to god. They refer to the nouns already mentioned in the sentence.

With your reverential capitalization, you are adding meaning to the text that isn't there.

False accusation which cannot be supported.

 

[46AND2]

False accusation which cannot be supported.

I already have supported it. Translators, who, unlike you, understand ancient Hebrew, did not capitalize the words. I'll take that, and a trivially basic understanding of how to read English, over your manufactured, pet theory interpretation any day of the week.

It is you who cannot support your claim that those words should be capitalized. Literally nothing in the Hebrew text suggests that they should be.

 

[SLP]

You seem to be thinking about Science and Genetics.

Yes, as you mentioned them specifically.

The problem I have with today's scientific consensus is the flawed ToE, which CANNOT explain How or When mindless Nature inserted the Supreme Intelligence of Creation Genesis 3:22 into Apes.

Why would you expect anyone to be able to explain such a farce?

Evolutionists claim that Human intelligence can be changed APART from the sexual process, but cannot seem to find ANY evidence of this unsupported assertion.

No idea what that is supposed to mean.

Genetically, today's Humans (Nephiyl or the descendants of Adam AND prehistoric people (sons of God) Genesis 6:4 have the intelligence of God AND the DNA of prehistoric people and chromosome 2 fusion confirms this. Genesis 6:4 Amen?

Ah, so when you mentioned 'genetics' it was just this naive folk genetics, that is, 'genetics' that has not bearing to actual genetics.

Fair enough.

 

[46AND2]

False accusation which cannot be supported.

Indeed, not a single, solitary Bible version unambiguously agrees with you. In fact, you rely on the KJV precisely because it adds the ambiguity that you need, using "his" instead of "its."

I could not even find another version which renders the word "his" instead of "its."

And this, despite the fact that you admit that the translators of the KJV were not living in the time of "increased knowledge."

Your ridiculous interpretation relies on a centuries old ENGLISH grammar mechanism that has fallen out of favor.

 

[pitabread]

The current generation is the last generation before Jesus returns

Many previous generations claimed the same thing. They were all wrong. There is no reason to assume that your claim is any different than theirs.

 

[pitabread]

Weak reply. Why not just throw up your hands and admit that you CANNOT refute God's Holy Word?

I'm not talking about "god's holy word". I'm speaking specifically about your claims that everything you believe with respect to the Bible lines with science, history, genetics, etc.

This is obviously false given that you flat out disregard everything in those areas of human knowledge that contradicts your claims about your Biblical beliefs.

The least you can do is be honest about that. But I suppose that is asking too much.

 

[pitabread]

Ah, so when you mentioned 'genetics' it was just this naive folk genetics, that is, 'genetics' that has not bearing to actual genetics.

It's become very apparent that any time Aman777 mentions science, history, genetics or math, he's not actually not talking about science, history, genetics or math.

 

[Aman777]

I already have supported it. Translators, who, unlike you, understand ancient Hebrew, did not capitalize the words. I'll take that, and a trivially basic understanding of how to read English, over your manufactured, pet theory interpretation any day of the week.

It is you who cannot support your claim that those words should be capitalized. Literally nothing in the Hebrew text suggests that they should be.

Did the Hebrew writers know that their view would lead to the Crucifixion of Christ? Sorry, but I don't follow their theology. I don't have anything against Hebrews since they will become brothers and sisters, in Christ during the tribulation. Rev 7:5-8

 

[Aman777]

Indeed, not a single, solitary Bible version unambiguously agrees with you. In fact, you rely on the KJV precisely because it adds the ambiguity that you need, using "his" instead of "its."

I could not even find another version which renders the word "his" instead of "its."

And this, despite the fact that you admit that the translators of the KJV were not living in the time of "increased knowledge."

Your ridiculous interpretation relies on a centuries old ENGLISH grammar mechanism that has fallen out of favor.

Amen. You seem to think I am an irrefutable moron who NO one can prove wrong Scripturally, scientifically, historically, genetically or mathematically. Can you?

 

[Aman777]

Many previous generations claimed the same thing. They were all wrong. There is no reason to assume that your claim is any different than theirs.

In the last days before the Rapture, God is going to pour out His Spirit of Truth through the discoveries of Science Joe 2:28 Act 2:17 since that is the only way to show God's Truth to false Religions. I have already collected 11 proofs of God which agree with recent discoveries of science with Scripture, history, genetics and math. What is amazing about these Truths from Genesis is that NO one can prove them wrong in any way. It's irrefutable proof of what God told us would happen in the last days before the Rapture. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

I'm not talking about "god's holy word". I'm speaking specifically about your claims that everything you believe with respect to the Bible lines with science, history, genetics, etc.

This is obviously false given that you flat out disregard everything in those areas of human knowledge that contradicts your claims about your Biblical beliefs.

The least you can do is be honest about that. But I suppose that is asking too much.

False accusation since NO one has ever refuted what God told us of how we inherited our superior intelligence, in Genesis. I don't disagree with factual Science in any way. I do disagree with the false ToE since it can never explain how the highest intelligence in the Universe Genesis 3:22 got inside prehistoric people in ONE generation and changed them into Humans, the descendants of Adam. God does in ONE verse. In scientific talk, that's called Occam's Razor.