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I tried to identify why I can't accept it. Discussing it further will only cause more pinched pride.I don't see why there has to be a choice between liturgical style and more free form worship. Am I missing something here?
Amen!The songs and hyms we sing are always about "Victory", as the Words of Jesus lead us thru trials and tribulations, but we always come out triumphant, as He is our Light and Salvation.
Remember the song the Hebrews sang in Exodus? They are practically singing that song in Revelation. It is always about YHWH and His Christ Jesus and how we can be victorious thru Him to others.
Exodus 15:1 Then sang Mosheh and the sons of Yisra'el this song unto YHWH, and they spake saying,--
"I will sing to YHWH for He is exalted exalted,--The horse and his rider hath He cast into the Sea.
2 My might and melody is Yah And He became mine salvation/y@shuw'ah.--This is my 'El and I will glorify Him, 'Elohiym of my father and I will set Him on high". '
New?A good topic gone kapow!!!
Peace
More white meat??New?
No worries, One day we'll all get to eat crow.
(I'd rather now than later though)
I can predict sour grapes when they are about to show up, yes.you'll hate this thread, I guarantee it.
Wow!!! You can predict people's future!!!
If you really thinking your being objective, you're kidding yourself. But thanks for the usual "you're outside of Christ's Church", it's refreshing to know som things never change.UpHill, you are just as usual being subjective. The bible in no way can support you in any objective manner.
and you know it. It boils down to.. as usual... my own subjective personal truth.
You will never be able to escape from the world of subjectivity. I see you trying so hard to find objective truth outside of Christs' Church and you are driving yourself crazy.
Come home UP. It's time.
Did you see this article on 2 Christian women now looking for a new "home", which I noticed they were discussing on the OBOB board.If you really thinking your being objective, you're kidding yourself. But thanks for the usual "you're outside of Christ's Church", it's refreshing to know som things never change.
and I will not be home until I'm no longer walking this earth.
And you are? You know that you have the objective truth because you read some guys book?If you really thinking your being objective, you're kidding yourself. But thanks for the usual "you're outside of Christ's Church", it's refreshing to know som things never change.
and I will not be home until I'm no longer walking this earth.
http://www.scripture4all.org/Haggai 2:6 That thus He says, YHWH of Hosts: Yet one little, she, and I am quaking the heavens and the land, and the sea, and the Dry/03004 yabbashah, 7 And I quake All of the nations, and they come, desired of all of the nations. And I fill the House, this, with honour says YHWH of Hosts.
like I said, you are the same as ever. you STILL don't read what other people post. Colour me unsuprised.And you are? You know that you have the objective truth because you read some guys book?
which gives me reason to doubt them, not run and jump on the bandwagon.But yet there are BILLIONS between both Catholic, Orthodox and Protestants who see things a bit different.
we can know objective truth in many things. We USE subjective truth to prove our faith, or lack therof in things.If no one according to you can know objective truth in all matters, not just "Jesus is God," then there is no God UB.
the bible really isn't confusing. I don't know why it puzzles you so much.God did not save us, toss us such a confusing bible and just leave us here abandoned to find the truth on our own, trying to figure out what the bible really says.
save this for someone who MIGHT be impressed by it.You want the truth? You really do? Then get out of your own way and come and get it. You know where it really resides.
A lot of it still puzzles the Hebrew/Jews today it seems.like I said, you are the same as ever. you STILL don't read what other people post. Colour me unsuprised.
which gives me reason to doubt them, not run and jump on the bandwagon.
we can know objective truth in many things. We USE subjective truth to prove our faith, or lack therof in things.
the bible really isn't confusing. I don't know why it puzzles you so much.
save this for someone who MIGHT be impressed by it.
Pardon me for this editoral comment.
hahahahaha!
end.
I don't stereotype. I identify. when someone is being a bloody bigot, I'm able to identify it.
I can predict sour grapes when they are about to show up, yes.
Life on these forums have taught me, that no matter what you bring up, some are going to shake their fist and curse you for it.
some topics more than others, and this one, apparently, is a doozy.
I assumed too much, I guess. I figured that you might figure out I was laughing at the thought of you telling me I'm playing the "always the victim" card.Editorial comment? hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Basically, I've always liked the EO on here. For the most part, they have been the most peaceful of the lot of us... less likely to attack, less likely to get personal, less likely to BE a bigot. I'm just identifying that look, they are there too. More's the pity.But you said "I'm starting to understand that the EO have just as many bloody bigots as the next denomination. (plural)
It is hard to differentiate between your broad accusations and your personal ones; or is that too nit picky, or are your comments sometimes drifting off into an "editorial " which we/I should pardon?
I am absolutely certain you don't really know what sycophant means, else you wouldn't be applying it to me. I don't regularly go out of my way to flatter people.You identify people by their affiliation. I identify you as a sycophant.
I apologize for the bigot comment. It aparently offended you.In what way am I a biggot? What have I said in this thread for you to accuse me as such. Have I made broad accusations, even predicted them?
It's a figure of speech. Nobody has actually shaken their fist at me either. It's an internet forum."Life on these forums" (strange way of putting it) And certainly you trust your "experience". Who has cursed you?
and I guess you don't believe that any of those monikers are accurate, what with them being on the same "side" as you in this particular topic. That's fine. But I have a long history of posting with the person that I stated was acting holier-than-thou. It's been a systemic issue between me and them. Whether or not you see, it, I don't really care... It's not as if I'm going to base my feelings off of your opinion. Suffice it to say, I don't retract that particular sentiment.I'll call you a sycophant, but I have never cursed you. You have called me and others, bigots, holier than thou, among other things.
no. I can just expect you to sit on the sideline and jeer. That is your right, I suppose. But ask youself if this is really more about the topic itself, or the fact that you don't like it that someone differs in opinion than you, and has the stones to actually say so.You really seem to take things and run with it. That is certainly your right, but don't expect me to run with you;
indeed. You're culpable for your own self, not for the entire EO. and like I said previously, the majority of EO, I've found very peaceful. I guess you just shattered the bubble that ALL of them are.and please do not lump certain faiths with my personal comments when you prophecy or editorialize in the future. My words are my own.
I don't see why there has to be a choice between liturgical style and more free form worship. Am I missing something here?
right.. that is why everyone agree with everyone else on what is the true worship that God has asked for...like I said, you are the same as ever. you STILL don't read what other people post. Colour me unsuprised.
which gives me reason to doubt them, not run and jump on the bandwagon.
we can know objective truth in many things. We USE subjective truth to prove our faith, or lack therof in things.
the bible really isn't confusing. I don't know why it puzzles you so much.
save this for someone who MIGHT be impressed by it.
God didn't detail how worship services were to be. Jesus said we will worship in spirit and in truth. Show me where God laid out a plan for liturgical worship, and then I'll believe you have "objective" truth on the matter.right.. that is why everyone agree with everyone else on what is the true worship that God has asked for...
what doctrine?You believe this doctrine of men because the last thing you want to believe in is the Catholic Church-- you would believe in the Orthodox Church before you would ever believe the Catholic Church.
That's not bias governing your "Objective" belief?
God didn't detail how worship services were to be.
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