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Joe wants money to PROCESS more migrants into the country,
How would expediting removal court processes put more people into the country. The courts determine who should be there by law. And how do you think adding border patrol officers to the border would let more people sneak in?

Don't be so gullible.
 
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How would expediting removal court processes put more people into the country. The courts determine who should be there by law. And how do you think adding border patrol officers to the border would let more people sneak in?

Don't be so gullible.
How long between paper pushing and their case being decided? Where would those people be in the meantime? Do please tell us of our gullibility.?
 
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The first that comes to mind is if they use the White House office doctor, they might need to keep some kind of records. You know like who is being prescribed to? How much has been prescribed and on what days? Do you have a primary doctor? Pay for it and get the write-off, then anything that happens is Dr/patient privilege. He could even make the medical team or doctor sign a non-disclosure agreement so all of the records are kept private.

Strictly legal? I don't know. I know a doctor has some liberty to hand out samples with no prescription. Otherwise, doctors need to keep a record of every script they wrote and how much was prescribed. There may be a liability there.

Emphasis: Not a lawyer.
He was demoted by the Navy after leaving the WH for drinking on the job, abusing subordinates, and other violations.

The Navy demoted Rep. Ronny Jackson in 2022 after a scathing report from the Defense Department watchdog found the former White House physician drank on the job, routinely screamed at subordinates and acted inappropriately.

Jackson, who retired in 2019 as a one-star rear admiral, was demoted to the rank of captain, according to two US officials.

Jackson, who served as the top White House physician under President Barack Obama and President Donald Trump, still refers to himself as a retired rear admiral, the rank at which he retired on December 1, 2019. Now a Republican member of Congress, Jackson says on his website that he is a “retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral with nearly three decades of military service.”


Apparently, fit right in with the drug culture in the Trump WH.

A lot of people made jokes about the Trump WH; "are they on drugs?" The answer seems to be "mostly, yes."

"Conversely, the White House Medical Unit’s pharmaceutical services included the full scope of pharmacy operations, including storage and inventory, prescribing and dispensing, procurement, and disposal, and was not credentialed by any outside agency. We concluded that all phases of the White House Medical Unit’s pharmacy operations had severe and systemic problems due to the unit’s reliance on ineffective internal controls to ensure compliance with pharmacy safety standards. In addition, the Military Health System senior leaders did not oversee the White House Medical Unit’s pharmacy operations. Without oversight from qualified pharmacy staff, the White House Medical Unit’s pharmaceutical management practices may have been subject to prescribing errors and inadequate medication management, increasing the risk to the health and safety of patients treated within the unit. Additionally, the White House Medical Unit’s pharmaceutical management practices ineffectively used DoD funds by obtaining brand‑name medications instead of generic equivalents and increased the risk for the diversion of controlled substances.1

We found that the White House Medical Unit provided a wide range of health care and pharmaceutical services to ineligible White House staff in violation of Federal law and regulation and DoD policy. Additionally, the White House Medical Unit dispensed prescription medications, including controlled substances, to ineligible White House staff. In analyzing the testimonies of former White House Military Office employees, we found
that White House Medical Unit senior leaders directed eligibility practices that did not comply with DoD guidance."

 
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How long between paper pushing and their case being decided?
Too long. Biden's request for more resources to get the ineligible people processed and deported was killed at Trump's orders, because it was just about the last campaign issue he has. So the republicans refused to reinforce the overworked Border Patrol and assured that the removal process would continue to take longer and longer.

Because Trump's political needs outweigh the good of the country as far as the House republicans are concerned.
 
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Too long. Biden's request for more resources to get the ineligible people processed and deported was killed at Trump's orders, because it was just about the last campaign issue he has. So the republicans refused to reinforce the overworked Border Patrol and assured that the removal process would continue to take longer and longer.

Because Trump's political needs outweigh the good of the country as far as the House republicans are concerned.
How long between paper pushing, and deportation. And where would these people be between those two events? You are not the gullible one so please do tell us.
1. Time 2. Where 3. How many per day, month year.
Edit to add how many 5-8 per day
 
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He was demoted by the Navy after leaving the WH for drinking on the job, abusing subordinates, and other violations.

The Navy demoted Rep. Ronny Jackson in 2022 after a scathing report from the Defense Department watchdog found the former White House physician drank on the job, routinely screamed at subordinates and acted inappropriately.

Jackson, who retired in 2019 as a one-star rear admiral, was demoted to the rank of captain, according to two US officials.

Jackson, who served as the top White House physician under President Barack Obama and President Donald Trump, still refers to himself as a retired rear admiral, the rank at which he retired on December 1, 2019. Now a Republican member of Congress, Jackson says on his website that he is a “retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral with nearly three decades of military service.”


Apparently, fit right in with the drug culture in the Trump WH.

A lot of people made jokes about the Trump WH; "are they on drugs?" The answer seems to be "mostly, yes."

"Conversely, the White House Medical Unit’s pharmaceutical services included the full scope of pharmacy operations, including storage and inventory, prescribing and dispensing, procurement, and disposal, and was not credentialed by any outside agency. We concluded that all phases of the White House Medical Unit’s pharmacy operations had severe and systemic problems due to the unit’s reliance on ineffective internal controls to ensure compliance with pharmacy safety standards. In addition, the Military Health System senior leaders did not oversee the White House Medical Unit’s pharmacy operations. Without oversight from qualified pharmacy staff, the White House Medical Unit’s pharmaceutical management practices may have been subject to prescribing errors and inadequate medication management, increasing the risk to the health and safety of patients treated within the unit. Additionally, the White House Medical Unit’s pharmaceutical management practices ineffectively used DoD funds by obtaining brand‑name medications instead of generic equivalents and increased the risk for the diversion of controlled substances.1

We found that the White House Medical Unit provided a wide range of health care and pharmaceutical services to ineligible White House staff in violation of Federal law and regulation and DoD policy. Additionally, the White House Medical Unit dispensed prescription medications, including controlled substances, to ineligible White House staff. In analyzing the testimonies of former White House Military Office employees, we found
that White House Medical Unit senior leaders directed eligibility practices that did not comply with DoD guidance."

He worked for Obama as well. What his alcoholism only appeared under Trump. Uh huh.
 
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How would expediting removal court processes put more people into the country. The courts determine who should be there by law. And how do you think adding border patrol officers to the border would let more people sneak in?

Don't be so gullible.
H.R. 2 has specific requirements for the use of money and resources, finishing the wall, money to law enforcement. We know what Joe Biden and his administration have done and continues to do, policies that encourage human trafficking and crime. He could rescind the disastrous orders he made in his first one hundred days but has no intention of doing so.
 
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I'll take a stab at it and guess you mean this...
(Blames the Corps of Engineers)

They didn't build that mess. Trump specified the contractors, big republican donors who didn't actually know how to build such things. So some of it fell over. None of it was actually built in a way to stop people from getting through. The Border Patrol says over 3,000 breaches occurred even in the few miles that actually got built.

And no, the Border Patrol are not lying.

That might explain why guys like Milley were so quick to blame Trump to cover their own failures. As the highest ranking member of the Army, he's responsible for screwing it up.
Would have been, if he had been selecting the contractors. But as you know, Trump picked big donors to do the work. And they did a miserable job.

Did those people cutting through the wall and entering illegallu get arrested or not?
For some reason, they did it when there weren't Border Patrol people around. Go figure. Biden asked for more Border Patrol agents to deal with that among other things, but Trump demanded that the House republicans make sure it didn't happen. For reasons we all understand.

I don't recall Trump saying that the wall would be an impenetrable barrier

Trump said the new border wall was “impenetrable.” Smugglers are sawing through it.

Smugglers have found that all you need to cut through the wall is a $100 saw.

Remember when lots of people here told you it wouldn't work? Told ya so. If you actually believed him, I can understand you being a little hissy about it.

(Trump's chosen contractors failed to finish their work, leaving about a quarter billion dollars worth of material)
Wow...a quarter of a billion dollars. That's a lot, don't you agree?
Yep. Told you so.
He pressured them did he? What sort of wall did Milley prefer?
Don't remember him advocating for a wall. He likely knew it wouldn't work, like most people here.

As I understand it, the Army Corps preferred the wall made of individual posts to allow a degree of visibility into Mexico....which is what was ultimately chosen. Trump wanted a high and imposing wall that prevented visibility on both sides.
For good reason. The walls on the border by San Diego were repeatedly breached by tunnels because of a lack of visibility from the U.S. They are removing them for that reason.

Regardless, easily 10-15 times the amount that was....less than perfectly spent under Trump regarding the wall fiasco....was lost to outright fraud
That was a side hustle for Trump's people:

Bannon allies sentenced to prison in 'We Build the Wall' scheme

Brian Kolfage was sentenced to just over four years in prison, while co-defendant Andrew Badolato was sentenced to three years.
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Although Trump pardoned Bannon of federal charges for his role in "We Build the Wall," Bannon was indicted in September 2022 in New York state on charges including money laundering and scheming to defraud donors. He pleaded not guilty in both the federal and New York cases.


..less than perfectly spent under Trump regarding the wall fiasco....was lost to outright fraud in just covid relief funds

The Great Grift: How billions in COVID-19 relief aid was stolen or wasted

Most of the looted money was swiped from three large pandemic-relief initiatives launched during the Trump administration...The Biden administration put in place stricter rules to stem pandemic fraud, including use of the “Do Not Pay” database. Biden also recently proposed a $1.6 billion plan to boost law enforcement efforts to go after pandemic relief fraudsters.

It's worse than that for Trump and his family...

Trump Friends and Family Cleared for Millions in Small Business Bailout

Beneficiaries of the PPP included a lettuce farming venture backed by Trump’s son, Kushner companies, and a dentist who golfs with the president. The figures were released after a lawsuit by several news organizations, including ProPublica.

Biden's efforts to get that money back from grifters is paying off.


United States Recovers $8.4 Million In Fraudulent COVID Relief Funds From Family


Looks like we're going to see a lot more of that. Good on him for doing it.
I'll agree government waste is bad.
So does Biden. But he's actually doing something about it.
 
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He worked for Obama as well. What his alcoholism only appeared under Trump. Uh huh.
We don't know when he got his drinking problem. Usually, these things start slowly until they get out of hand. The "Dr. Feelgood" culture in the Trump WH no doubt contributed to Jackson getting caught. If you're dirty, it's not smart to hang out with dirty people.
 
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H.R. 2 has specific requirements for the use of money and resources, finishing the wall, money to law enforcement. We know what Joe Biden and his administration have done and continues to do, policies that encourage human trafficking and crime.
Your denial seems pretty pointless in light of Biden's attempt to get more resources to border enforcement, and the republican moves to prevent that from happening. C'mon.
 
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We don't know when he got his drinking problem. Usually, these things start slowly until they get out of hand. The "Dr. Feelgood" culture in the Trump WH no doubt contributed to Jackson getting caught. If you're dirty, it's not smart to hang out with dirty people.
Was he dr feel good for Obana too? No drinking problem under Obama, just under Trump, but not now. HMMM. must have quietly went through rehab fir this terrible state he suddenly found himself in only under Trump. I see.
 
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Was he dr feel good for Obana too?
No data on that. His drinking problems might have begun that early, although 8-10 years is a long time to go undetected. As I said, the drug culture in the Trump WH probably contributed to Jackson (now a republican congressman) getting caught and demoted by the Navy. And no, there's no evidence to show that Trump was aware that so many of his people were walking around drugged with illegally-obtained meds. If he wasn't alert enough to know when people were stealing orders off his desk, he likely wasn't aware enough to know about all the illegal drug use.

No drinking problem under Obama, just under Trump, but not now.
We don't know that. Some alcoholics are pretty good at hiding it. He just got so bad by the Trump years that it couldn't be ignored any more. And as I said, the widespread abuse of prescription meds by Trump's people probably had something to do with him getting caught.
 
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No data on that. His drinking problems might have begun that early, although 8-10 years is a long time to go undetected. As I said, the drug culture in the Trump WH probably contributed to Jackson (now a republican congressman) getting caught and demoted by the Navy. And no, there's no evidence to show that Trump was aware that so many of his people were walking around drugged with illegally-obtained meds. If he wasn't alert enough to know when people were stealing orders off his desk, he likely wasn't aware enough to know about all the illegal drug use.


We don't know that. Some alcoholics are pretty good at hiding it. He just got so bad by the Trump years that it couldn't be ignored any more. And as I said, the widespread abuse of prescription meds by Trump's people probably had something to do with him getting caught.
but not now hmmm
 
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See above. The border patrol makes jokes about the number of holes in the "impenetrable wall."

Oh I've no doubt that some do. I know guys in several agencies under DHS, and from what I understand it's a grim job. They know all the lies that the government tells you about them and those things get joked about. M They joke about the public thinking "children in cages" started under Trump and ended under Biden. They joke about how people imagine these are "asylum seekers" despite not remotely close to qualifying for asylum.

I know a guy in the agency proper and a guy in their tactical unit. According to them, the agency will overwhelmingly support Trump in the election. That makes sense when you consider that Trump at least acknowledges the problem and attempted to fix it. The Dems denied the problem existed.. and when they couldn't anymore, they acted like CBP and ICE were racist, and when they got elected, made the problem 5 times worse and went back to ignoring it lol.

I don't know what you're trying to suggest but if it's something along the lines of "they don't agree with Trump" I'd suggest to you they aren't voting for Biden. They didn't forget about this nonsense.


Lying about a federal agency is one thing...we've all seen that happen. Lying about the people on the ground doing the work? They're not voting for that person....ever lol. Democrats are still lying about this...

Just look at what AOC says about the crisis.

Given that Biden was negotiating with McCarthy by himself

I still don't know what you mean by this. Negotiating what? His nap time?

Joe Biden Was Underestimated Once Again on the Debt Ceiling Deal

The president appears to have bested the GOP with a bill that could very soon save the economy—and his reelection chances
“Republicans got outsmarted by a President who can’t find his pants,” Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) tweeted on Tuesday, making clear she opposed the compromise legislation that came out of Biden and McCarthy’s negotiations.


Oh...do you think presidents just write legislation and pass it by themselves lol? Or do elected legislators have to work for him on that?

Do you think legislators write bills? Or at least write bills that pass?

Republicans can't seem to decide whether Biden is a senile old guy

Oh there's no question. It's senile old guy all the way. The idea that he's making negotiations or writing legislation is for you...it's propaganda for the voters. He just does what he's told...


It's a 1min video. "I better not answer questions or I'll get in trouble" -Joe Biden.

It would be a great joke if he didn't look like he's lost and unaware. My dog has a firmer grasp on reality. Let's just be honest, he wasn't even intending to run for president in 2020...he was planning his retirement and sharing highly classified military documents with some ghostwriter for his autobiography. He's so far gone that despite having proof he committed crimes, the special prosecutor said he's just too convincing as a senile old man who meant well.

I believe it. You can vote for Joe...but both you and Joe have no idea what you're actually voting for.


Stopping an unconstitutional move by the president. Presidents can't unilaterally abrogate treaties ratified by Congress.

NAFTA is foreign policy last I checked. Let's take a look though...

You have asked whether the President may lawfully withdraw the Unit-
ed States from the North American Free Trade Agreement (“NAFTA”),
Can.-Mex.-U.S., Dec. 17, 1992, 32 I.L.M. 289 (1993), according to its
terms, without obtaining approval from Congress. NAFTA is a congres-
sional-executive agreement, negotiated by the President and approved by
Congress. Article 2205 of the agreement permits a party to withdraw from
it on six months’ notice. In the legislation approving NAFTA, Congress
authorized the President to carry out the agreement and imposed no limits
on his authority to withdraw.


That's a little excerpt from a 2018 memo titled "authority to withdraw from NAFTA agreement."

If you can't find it yourself I'll post you a link.

Now it's clear that people engaged in literally criminal behavior to hinder Trump's term as president. These people are a threat to democracy and should stand trial for their crimes.

Oh, of course you were...

Obviously. I hope correcting you above doesn't make you upset.

Not at all, not in any way. Don't they train you guys before you go to work? C'mon. Read up on "separation of powers."

Lol...ok. You seem to think Biden and McCarthy negotiated something. What was it again?

If I was precise in what Tillerson actually said to describe Trump, I'd be banned here.

Can you give a link? Tell me what to search for?

As you seem to realize, the far right has spread their hatred to some universities.

The moderate right can't even speak in front of an audience without being protested at universities. That's the far left....and if you want some evidence, I can show you some. What would you like? Student groups supporting BLM and Hamas? How about "Queers for Palestine"?

Is that even a serious statement? Surely you understand it's not right wing groups and professors threatening and harassing Jewish students.


Uncensored America (UA), a student organization sanctioned at three university campuses,

3 campuses? Wow.


plans to host Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes

He's not really associated with them anymore nor does he appear to be "far right".


at Penn State University and far-right social media performer John Doyle

Never heard of him. What makes him far right?

While UA claims to be a “non-partisan” group,

They put that in quotes...as if they don't know what it means.

it has previously hosted other right-wing extremist speakers including Milo Yiannopoulos,

Is he a far right extremist? They gay white guy who was dating a gay black guy before he disappeared?

and its founder is linked through another far-right campus group to a white nationalist publisher that sells pro-Nazi literature.

And....what exactly? The publisher sells "pro-nazi literature" so everyone they publish must be a nazi? Is that the claim here? I'm not even sure what you're suggesting....do you think Gavin and Milo are chasing Jewish students around campus?

If you're a big fan of "guilty by association" here's left wing Jon Stewart of the former Daily Show honoring an actual neo-nazi, from the Ukraine, at Disneyland, all funded by the Pentagon lol.


Think of how badly things must be going at the Pentagon for them to think this is good, effective propaganda.

This administration needs to disappear fast before it does any more damage to our institutions. We may have nothing left functional by 2028 if this continues.


And it's not just pro-Trump groups now:

It's not just pro-Trump groups doing what? You mentioned two speakers that were slapped with far right labels....speaking at universities.


Here's something that happened just last month....a pack of far left student activists attacked a private speaker event for a Jewish speaker.

I never heard of "Bears for Palestine" but judging by how they describe themselves and the language they use...I'm certain they aren't right wing lol.


Now, if you're still doubting or confused who the racist, antisemitic bigots are....I can contact these students and request some information on what they believe and what they're all about to clear it up for you. If I succeed at convincing them I'm a far left progressive student who hates the west, capitalism, whiteness, colonialism and tell them I've been arrested for supporting BLM 5 times, I might even be able to get them to open up a bit lol.

It's not like there's anything difficult in telling them exactly what they want to hear. Interested in finding out?


The rise in Jew-hatred in the U.S. is not limited to white supremacists. It said that “the antisemitism of the far-right and far-left are pushing into the mainstream of American culture and politics from both sides.”

There's the understatement of the year. I can recall some far right antisemitism from Charlottesville that one time....but the far left has been going at it almost constantly ever since Hamas terrorists attacked Israel. I don't think there's much "mainstreaming" of antisemitism on the right....but there does appear to be a lot coming from the far left.

Some Islamic fundamentalist groups have made common cause with white supremacists.

I don't know if Bears for Palestine supports fundamentalist Islam or white supremacy. The language they use is typical of other far left groups like BLM.

And thankfully, I never supported BLM. It was pretty clear to me pretty quickly at they were filled with racism and bigotry. No good has come from them.
Because his intelligence people have told him that openly supporting Trump is a bad idea. Mueller found that Putin's tactic was covertly supporting Trump.

Source? I don't recall that in the Mueller report. I'm also curious how they knew when the CIA was intercepting their communications so they could "fake" support for Hillary Clinton? If you have any information on this....and it's not some obvious attempt to cope with the reality of the situation....please share whatever evidence you have. I'll pass it along to the CIA so they don't get tricked again.

Or maybe Putin is doing one thing and saying another.

What do you mean "or maybe"?

I'm not interested in some crackpot conspiracy theory you cooked up. That CIA report was based off of intercepted communications between Putin and his allies. It's not some random guess-work.

They played you and a better part of the US public....that's all. Don't feel embarrassed....it's not like you were in the FBI desperately digging around Trump's inner circle looking for anything to pin on him.

You wouldn't be the first to ignore a conscience for whatever the payoff is for doing so. Here's a hint: denial doesn't work so well, if your behavior doesn't fit the denial.

I don't have a clue what you're talking about here...but it sounds like projection.
 
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No data on that.

Has any data been provided on anything? The OP didn't cite any news articles lol...The New Republic doesn't even claim to be a news source.


As I said, the drug culture in the Trump WH probably contributed to Jackson (now a republican congressman) getting caught and demoted by the Navy. And no, there's no evidence to show that Trump was aware that so many of his people were walking around drugged with illegally-obtained meds. If he wasn't alert enough to know when people were stealing orders off his desk, he likely wasn't aware enough to know about all the illegal drug use.

What drug culture? Provide a source already. They've found coke lying around the WH under Biden....but that's probably just Hunter's secret stash and he "doesn't" work for his dad lol.

C'mon...let's see some evidence. The website in the OP didn't provide any evidence....it doesn't even claim to be news/journalism lol.
 
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Biden supported the Civil Rights Act, but correctly predicted that forced busing would backfire and cause more racial strife. And events proved him to be correct.

How the left’s embrace of busing hurt the cause of integration.


Don't they teach American history where you live? It's not a secret, it's part of the historical record.

The first buses rolled through Boston in September 1974—and racial violence engulfed the city. White mobs hurled bricks at school buses with terrified black children inside. Then, on October 7, a Haitian immigrant was beaten savagely by a white mob in South Boston. In the coming months, the list of casualties would grow. The city became a cauldron of racial hatred.
I remember. I was there.

Where I grew up, in a part of Boston called Hyde Park, the black sections and the white sections of the projects were separate, but we lived on one of the border streets. White families on one side of the street, black families on the other. We got along fine. I had black friends, and there were very few problems, overall.

Then busing came along. When people are forced to do something, even something they would have no problem doing on their own, they can get upset. And there were, and still are, enough bigots in Boston to exacerbate the racial tensions. When busing was first being discussed, we all knew what was going to happen, and sure enough, it went exactly as everyone knew it would.

If Biden, back in the day, predicted that forced busing would backfire and cause more racial strife, he was absolutely correct. And he wasn't alone in thinking that.

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Has any data been provided on anything?
For example the IG report that detailed the massive illegal drug use in the Trump WH. I linked to it.

What drug culture?
The details are in the IG report. I provided a source already.

They've found coke lying around the WH under Biden
In a visitor's area where any person visiting the WH could have placed it where it was sure to be found.

It's really too late for you to ignore the evidence.
 
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We don't know that. Some alcoholics are pretty good at hiding it. He just got so bad by the Trump years that it couldn't be ignored any more. And as I said, the widespread abuse of prescription meds by Trump's people probably had something to do with him getting caught.

but not now hmmm
He might have gotten some help. Or maybe being out of the WH lowered the pressure enough. The OP, after all.
 
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I remember. I was there.

Where I grew up, in a part of Boston called Hyde Park, the black sections and the white sections of the projects were separate, but we lived on one of the border streets. White families on one side of the street, black families on the other. We got along fine. I had black friends, and there were very few problems, overall.

Then busing came along. When people are forced to do something, even something they would have no problem doing on their own, they can get upset. And there were, and still are, enough bigots in Boston to exacerbate the racial tensions. When busing was first being discussed, we all knew what was going to happen, and sure enough, it went exactly as everyone knew it would.

If Biden, back in the day, predicted that forced busing would backfire and cause more racial strife, he was absolutely correct. And he wasn't alone in thinking that.
Yep. He had it exactly right. It didn't help; it made things worse, as Biden predicted.
 
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See above. The border patrol makes jokes about the number of holes in the "impenetrable wall."

Oh I've no doubt that some do.
Not surprising. It turned out to be very penetrable, a complete failure. Over 3,000 breaches even in the small percentage of the wall that actually got erected. It's a joke.

I know a guy in the agency proper and a guy in their tactical unit.
Of course you do...

You're just flapping around personal fantasies now. Maybe a new start would help you.

I'm not interested in some crackpot conspiracy theory you cooked up. That CIA report was based off of intercepted communications between Putin and his allies. It's not some random guess-work.
There is that...

U.S. intercepts capture senior Russian officials celebrating Trump win


I realize that this hasn't gone very well for you. But you did your best with what you had. That's got to be worth something.
 
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