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I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.
 

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fallingchristian said:
I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.
This is an honest list of all the bad things you do, but there is probably another list of good things you also do, isn't there?
We all do the things we know we shouldn't do. St. Paul even said that he was guilty of that, too! But what we need to do as part of our faith walk is to pray and read scripture as often as we can, and this is what helps us to have the strength, through the Holy Spirit, to counter-act the bad things we do and to increase the good things we do.

:) God loves you. In all the things you do, try to do them in such a way to show God that you love him, too, by loving others.
 
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Romans 7: 15-16
I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good.

I would recommend studying Romans 5-8, then maybe the whole book.

Even Paul who was foremost in spreading the Word of God. Who spread the word while he was still in jail, and while trying to save his captors from a shipwreck. Did things he was ashamed of.

It is Grace though that saves us form ourselves.

Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

I would also recommend joining up with a youth minister and have him/her help you understand what you are reading. Maybe when you understand it you can forgive yourself and repent, because God already has.
 
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fallingchristian said:
I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.

I'm not going to sit here and say like others that you're already saved.
You'll only be saved if you repent and stop doing what you're repenting for.
Repenting means nothing if you keep commiting the same sins.
Gods not stupid.
God wont think twice about sending you to the burning ground if all you do is go to church, say five hail mary's and go on doing your deeds.

Thats not how things work.

God wants sincerity and a hard crack at turning straight for you to get to the pearly gates.
And thats not pointed just at you. Thats for everyone.

Its about morals son, eye for an eye.
Defending your girlfriends honour is a just and admirable cause. But there is such a thing as knowing when enough is enough.
You cannot go further in retribution than the boy did in attacking.

Punching a guy for calling a name is no different than killing a man for stealing her watch.

Being good has nothing to do with going to church.
A church is just a building where people meet up and perform a ritual.
Being good has nothing to do with being a Chrisitian.
Hitler was a Catholic.

All that means nothing.

Being good comes from within you.
From what you want for yourself, and what you want for others.
You want to be good for yourself? Then restrain yourself.


I want you to sit long and hard on what you're about to read.

I am lustful. Everyone is lustful.
Anyone here who denies it is denying themselves and lying to make themselves look better infront of men instead of God.
I am lustful. And I know it.
So I take myself out of situations by which I will be lustful.

i.e, if a girl wearing a skirt bends down near me, I turn my head away.
If I dont see it, I cant lust after it.
Lust after your girlfriend son. Its wear you should be lusting.
Its no sin to lust after your partner.

The pride you have for yourself is whats called "false pride".
This kind of pride makes you arrogant and vain. Its pride in yourself for things that mean nothing.
You need to see that arrogance gets you nowhere. You need to take this criticism and actually see where you're going wrong, instead of being pointlessly hurt by it and then abusive.
Dont be proud of yourself for getting a good looking girlfriend. All you're doing is demeaning her. Be proud that she loves you.

If you think anti-christ music is bad, then stop listening to it.
Listen to something else. Not that I see what the fuss is about. Its not music. Music has harmonies and melodies and rythms and tempos and meaning.
Anti-christ music has world screamed along side noise.
Its not music. Its noise.
What you need to do is appreciate that things that you probably wouldn't touch with a barge pole.
Classical music would calm you down.
Orffs O Fortuna would show you what you're missing.
Dont listen to rubbish with hate filled words.
Music is the language of the soul. Listen to hate, become hate.
That is you.
Real music has such passion it can swing you're mood, let you remember, make you forget, and make you cry.
What you listen to does not.

Just so you know, the immoral things you do to "better yourself" aren't bettering you.
They are perpetuating a cycle. Doing something you shouldn't to get something you want makes you worthless.
Working hard to achieve what you want fills you not only with true pride, but also with the pride of others. There is nothing out there remotely like the feeling you get when you gain what you deserve.

You came here because you want something you feel others have got, and its not something you know how to get hold of.
You cant use your immoral ways to be good.
You be good by shedding your immoral ways.

Your temper is the one thing you can't get rid of by losing it.

Restrain yourself, and look for in life, that which has meaning, instead of everthing that does not.
Realise that fighting without a cause helps noone. Not even yourself.

Take what I've said, and think on it.
If you want to change, you will change, because what you dont what will start to repulse you.
As it did, and does, me.
 
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fallingchristian said:
I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.

No one here is perfect. I certainly am not perfect. I am proud, lustful, wrathful, selfish, hateful, covetous, I don't honor my parents, I don't pray enough (by far) I don't help people, etc, etc, etc. And that's just the short list. It's good that you can see your own sins, that is a big part of the battle. But even just being aware of sins is the first step. Repentance is the key. And humility. Run to and embrace humility. It is the one virtue that Satan can't mimic because it is so completely alien to him.

Remember, it was the publican, not the Pharisee who went back to his house justified. The Pharisee had good deeds and outward righteousness but he lacked humility so he couldn't see his sin to repent. The publican was humble and recognized his sin and was repentant.

I'll be praying for you.
 
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I dont get bored. If anything I feel more alive with Jesus. Although I was in your shoes as well a long time ago.
You not only have to believe but you need to repent. Pray and ask God to transform you. To show you your faults and to fill the voids. He will answer your prayers if you honestly seek and ask them. And finally to trust that God will fullfill that prayer.
 
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You guys are so perfect.

I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.

You have not had time in your life to do half the nasty stuff I have.
You are actually doing better than me. It took me 30 years to see the flaws in myself that you see in yourself now.

The good news is that you have seen that you are broken. The question is what to do next? Do you wallow in it or do you take steps to get better? We all fall down - the trick is getting back up again and not wallowing.
 
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e=mv^2 said:
You have not had time in your life to do half the nasty stuff I have.
You are actually doing better than me. It took me 30 years to see the flaws in myself that you see in yourself now.

The good news is that you have seen that you are broken. The question is what to do next? Do you wallow in it or do you take steps to get better? We all fall down - the trick is getting back up again and not wallowing.


Exactly. It took me till I was about 22 or so before I saw it. Before I just didnt care.
 
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I dont think we need everyone to come in here and pronounce all the bad things we've done in life. This isn't a contest. lol.

Safe to say FC plenty of people have been there, done that.
There's a way out.

E=mv^2 said it best in his first line, thought indirectly.
When you're older, you'll know and understand better.

On a more positive side, if you can control your instincts and urges and wants at this stage of your life, you'll be able to at every other, no sweat.
 
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fallingchristian said:
I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.
haha! I love it...

I'l let you in on a secret... If you want to be "good" or something, abstinence from sin won't make it go away and make you stop doing it. Anyone can be "good" and have morals but not be a Christian. There are plenty of people that live like that. I listen to secular music, I can slip out a curse word sometimes, and I can get prideful and lustful at times. That's human. I can garuntee pretty much 90% of the world has been, is, or will be like that in their life.

And guess what else? I've had brass knuckles, guns, knives, dogs and people threatening to beat the #$%^&* out of me. But not because of some ex-boyrfriend, it's for the Gospel!! The Christian life is much more exhilerating and better than the life for yourself. And all the junk that you get going through it, there will be a reward in Heaven.

I'm not always good, but I live by the Spirit and do not constantly fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Healing the sick, raising the dead, cleansing lepers, casting out demons, and prophesying is a lot more fun than most of the stuff you're doing! ;)
 
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fallingchristian said:
I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.

Believe me...no one is perfect. I'm sure everybody on this site has done what you have and worse. The one thing I had to learn and it may do you some good in the areas your having problems with is self-control. Read these verses:
2 Peter 1:5-9 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleanses from his past.

Self-control is not something that can be easily obtained. It's something you have to ask God to give you and help you mature in. Everybody is constantly under pressure, whether it's family, friends or whatever can pluck your nerves. You need to make sure to put on your Armor of God (Ephesians 6:10-18) to help you gain control of outside influences. As your grow, hopefully you will mature yourself in this area, but it won't get any easier as you age. That's where you need to place it in God's hands so He can help you.
 
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fallingchristian said:
I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.

Here's the thing. You say that you were "born and raised" a Christian.

There's no such thing.

Your parents can't make that decision for you. You can be born into a Christian home, baptised, confirmed, and even go to Catholic school (I went for several years, myself) and not be a Christian.

Just so you know, that's not an anti-Catholic statement. The same would be true if we were talking about baptists.

There has to be a point in your life where you come face to face with your sin and decide that you are going to trust Christ, die to yourself and live for Him.

Have you done that?
 
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fallingchristian said:
I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.

I don't think anyone in here has made the claim that they where perfect? And even if they did they would be showing the world that they where liars. No one is without sin and only God is perfect.

If you are acknowledging your sins as sins. (as you have done in this post.) then you are in agreement that they are sin :)

People who sin and say their sin is not sin, they are the ones that should be worried.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
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First, I want to give the main qualification for being able to live a successful Christian life, as that is the only way I know to have consistent victory over sin.

I was always a "good little girl", even as an adult. But I wasn't better than anyone else, I just did my sinning in my mind because I didn't want to get into trouble with people. I was just as big a sinner as everyone. And I was still headed for an eternity separated from God. I attended church, and believed in God as I was growing up, but that didn't make me a Christian.

Eventually, I trusted in Christ to be my personal sinbearer and to get me to Heaven one day. (John 3:16, Ephesians 2:8-9) When I made that decision my eternal destination changed, and I became a Christian. I believe Scripture indicates that we cannot lose our salvation. (Romans 6:23 with 11:29, and John 10:28-29) When we do wrong and do not confess and stop that sin, God will lovingly discipline or punish us (Hebrews 12:5-6) but will not cast us out of His family.

So, I believe the decision to trust Christ as our sinbearer is essential. Now, to more directly answer your question:
I also believe that, once we are Christians, we cannot live a consistent life of purity and service on our own. We must rely on God's guidance and power.
2 Cor 1:9
9 Indeed, in our hearts we felt the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead.
(NIV)

When we were saved, God the Holy Spirit baptized us into the family of God, and meets all our needs for life and godliness .
2 Pet 1:3
3 His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.
(NIV)

Our part in living the victorious Christian life is cooperating with God as He develops His holiness in us.
Phil 1:6
6 being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.
(NIV)

We do this by letting go and letting God. Here is a summary:
Heb 12:1-3
1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us.
2 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
3 Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.
(NIV)
Rom 12:1-2
1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God-- this is your spiritual act of worship.
2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is-- his good, pleasing and perfect will.
(NIV)


Please let me know if you have questions, friend. I'll pray for you.
Aloha in Jesus

P.S. I'm still not perfect. :) I'm so thankful that Christ gave me His righteousness in echange for my giving Him my sins. Isn't He wonderful?
 
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fallingchristian said:
I dont understand, i was born and raised a christian. I go to a chalothic school. But i am no where as "good" as you guys. For example

I listen to anti christ music, I am very pridefull, I am very lustfull, I swear all the time, I get into fights all the time. I crushed somebuddy who called my ex a really improper word in a second without thinking. I do imoral things to improve my self or to get something I need. Am i corrupted?

I Just dont understand how you guys do it? What am I doing wrong (obiously everything) Dont you guys get board or something. I know i sound very very childish right now but i need this cleared up.

:scratch: My friend, there is nothing to be confused about. No one - and I mean NO ONE - here on this earth is perfect, not even close. The fact that we are human (sinners) is why we need the Lord. Just because we get saved, doesn't make us not sinners. You need to accept Jesus into your heart. He will help you make the right choices in life - but we still have a free will. The Bible tells us: Romans 10:9, 10 & 13 "That if thou shalt confess with they mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart may believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

My prayer is that you will do what the Bible says. :hug: :prayer:
 
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