Notrash
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BW denies the prophecy of the new covt of deut 30:6-15 and dan 9:27 and then seeks to present 'facts' which are only "unfulfilled" from the point of view of his futurist literal, readings and national renderings; not from the point of view of the original reader, heare or speaker (God)
I don't have time for such 'these were never fuðfilled' objectiins. Change the hermeneutic, heart & spirit & then the understanding will be clear.
I don't have time for such 'these were never fuðfilled' objectiins. Change the hermeneutic, heart & spirit & then the understanding will be clear.
Notrash has accused me of not being willing to face the facts, and of trying to dance around irrefutable logic.
But here are the hard facts of the case:
1. The attack by the Assyrian, mentioned in Micah 5 and Isaiah 10, among other places, never happened. When the ancient Assyrians invaded Judea, they did not follow the path defined in Isaiah 10:28-32. And Israel has never made the counter-attack described in Micah 5.
2. The gathering of all Israel after the Lord has come with fire And with His chariots, like a whirlwind, To render His anger with fury, And His rebuke with flames of fire, as specified in Isaiah 66:15-20, has never taken place.
3. The purging out of all the rebels by the Lord Himself, so that they are brought out of the country where they dwell, but not being allowed to enter the land of Israel, as described in Ezekiel 20:38, has never taken place.
4. The mountains of Israel, with the hills, the rivers, the valleys, the desolate wastes, and the cities that have been forsaken, (Ezekiel 36:4) have never again been inhabited by all the house of Israel, all of it, as explicitly stated in Ezekiel 36:10.
5. A leader from the land of Magog, who is a ruler of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, has never attacked Israel accompanied by Persia, Ethiopia, Lybia, all the troops of Gomer, and the house of Togarmah, as explicitly stated in Ezekiel 38:2-8.
6. The land of Israel has never had the borders precisely defined in Ezekiel 47:15-20.
7. The land of Israel has never been divided among the twelve tribes in the way specified in Ezekiel 48:1-8 and 23-28.
There is no way to even pretend that even one of these seven things have ever happened. And these are but a few of very many such examples that can be given.
No amount of reasoning, no twists of language, and no doctrine built upon pure speculation can avoid or dance around these facts, for they are beyond dispute.
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