YEC: Speed of Light and distant galaxies

[HasAnswers]

Shouldn't this be in the science section not the baptist one?

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

So there are galaxies so far away that it would take billions of years for the light to reach us. This light and time is also scientifically measured. So how can a YEC argument stand against this?

Well of course you're absolutely right.

The logic and evidence have to be ignored in order to maintain the YEC point of view. Some are able to accomplish that, and count it as a virtue. Others of us cannot do that, and count that as a virtue.

 

[LilLamb219]

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[classicalhero]

Why not post from a non-biased site for starters?

Not sure why we're talking about carbon-14 here, because it decays way too fast. I measure the age of rocks most scientists will use the amount of lead in objects to determine the decay of heavy elements like uranium.

Uranium-lead dating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That the whole point fo Carbon dating is that it is quick and yet w constantly keep getting measurable ages even from things that are billions of years old.

 

[Skala]

Well of course you're absolutely right.

The logic and evidence have to be ignored in order to maintain the YEC point of view. Some are able to accomplish that, and count it as a virtue. Others of us cannot do that, and count that as a virtue.

You don't have to ignore evidence to maintain YEC.

You simply have to believe that God created a working, mature universe. He wasn't going to plop Adam into planet where he couldn't see the stars for billions of years, was He? No, of course not, as Genesis specifically says that God created the stars to serve a purpose.

 

[miamited]

You don't have to ignore evidence to maintain YEC.

You simply have to believe that God created a working, mature universe. He wasn't going to plop Adam into planet where he couldn't see the stars for billions of years, was He? No, of course not, as Genesis specifically says that God created the stars to serve a purpose.

Amen! Man's inability to explain God's miracles is evident in each miracle that He performed. We can't explain how He flooded the whole earth. We can't explain how He caused the plagues brought on Egypt. We can't explain how He parted a sea. We can't explain how He caused the sun to back up or to just stand still in the sky. We can't explain how He caused a simple Jewish woman to be pregnant without the introduction of human sperm into her womb. We can't explain how He made the blind to see, the lame to walk or the deaf to hear. We can't explain how He gave life back to Lazarus though he had been dead for days. We can't explain how He raised His Son to life.

But we believe that because God said that He did all these things just as He has told us that he did ---- that He did! Can man explain these things? Well, of course not. But, that's what makes God who He is and man who he is.

We live in a created realm. A created existence of stars and planets and plants and animals because God chose to create. God chose to create all of this realm because He was creating a realm in which creatures of flesh could live. All we can see are the natural elements and properties of all that God has created and, because we are naturally so wont to be able to explain and give answers to the how and why of everything, we study these elements and properties and devise theories and explanations that suit our limited abilities to only understand these things that we know.

When God speaks or decrees something to happen, it just happens. Are we ever going to be able to understand the mechanics of 'how' He causes these things to happen? No! Not in this life or the next. All we can know, and we can either choose to believe it in this life or find it out in the next, is that God created all this realm. When all men stand before God in the judgment, they will know the truth about 'what' all God has created, but unless they are ever willing to just accept the fact that the 'what' came about by merely the command of God, we won't ever know the 'how' that He created.

How was the earth formed? God commanded it to be!
How was the universe formed? God commanded it to be!
How was the earth flooded? God commanded it to be!
How did the plagues come to Egypt? God commanded it to be!
How was the sea parted? God commanded it to be!
How did the sun do what it did? God commanded it to be!
How was Mary impregnated? God commanded it to be!
How was Lazarus raised? God commanded it to be!
How was Jesus raised? God commanded it to be!
How did the blind see, lame walk and deaf hear? God commanded it to be!
How will I be raised to eternal life? God will command it to be!

The Scriptures tell us that a time is coming when God will command that every soul that has ever lived upon the earth come out of their graves. How will that happen? Well, I can't explain the mechanics of it. All I know is that God will command it, and it will happen.

God bless you all,
In Christ, Ted

 

[98cwitr]

That the whole point fo Carbon dating is that it is quick and yet w constantly keep getting measurable ages even from things that are billions of years old.

Um...no it doesn't, it's only good for measuring objects younger than 62,000 years

Radiocarbon dating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you read the link I posted?

 

[classicalhero]

The problem is that measurable amounts of C14 have been found in things like diamonds, which are supposed about a billion years old, which obviously can't be if you can measure the ration since it should be zero, but there hasn't been a zero found in such dating of material that contains some carbon in them.

 

[98cwitr]

The problem is that measurable amounts of C14 have been found in things like diamonds, which are supposed about a billion years old, which obviously can't be if you can measure the ration since it should be zero, but there hasn't been a zero found in such dating of material that contains some carbon in them.

Explained here:
Problem with Carbon 14 radiometric dating - Physics - Science Forums

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/origins/carbon-kb.htm

1 word...contamination. That said, you're not going to get lead contamination in your uranium sample. /rebuttal