YAHUAH

[Lulav]

How many semesters of Biblical Hebrew have you had which qualifies you to contradict ancient sources? As pointed here הַשֵּׁם would be pronounced ha as in hat, shem as in them.

Only two, but that is only one source of learning.

Yes, I understand what it says, but it is not to be read I think as two words as you propose.

But this is getting off the topic of the OP.

 

[Der Alte]

Only two, but that is only one source of learning.
Yes, I understand what it says, but it is not to be read I think as two words as you propose.
But this is getting off the topic of the OP.

I don't think it would be pronounced as two words.

 

[Lulav]

I realise google translate has issues translating Hebrew accurately but I was on another site and in checking the hebrew name of Jesus I found something interesting.

יהושע translates "Joshua".
I reversed it (English to Hebrew) input Yahusha and it translated יהושה
Yeshua translates ישוע but it's supposed to be the Jewish name of Jesus (English translation Joshua). Why are they different?

The site I was on was saying Jesus Jewish name is Yahusha translated יהושע
But google translate says יהושה
I thought Yahusha was an alternative spelling.

I have a book on the Name, I'll look for it (but right now am too comfortable to do so now) but will do so later. It concentrates on the Name of the Messiah, as found throughout the Tenach and not about Joshua or Yeshoshua. I'll dig it out and give you some examples.

 

[Lulav]

I don't think it would be pronounced as two words.

But it could be. I have heard of that somewhere but haven't come back across it, I read and study too much.....

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I hate to interrupt but that's not true. And it is documented, even in the NT.

There are many today who call themselves Jews but are not blood related to Jacob or Judah. Yeshua wrote about it too.

That was my point, related through Abraham, Isaac and Jakob...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I realise google translate has issues translating Hebrew accurately but I was on another site and in checking the hebrew name of Jesus I found something interesting.

יהושע translates "Joshua".
I reversed it (English to Hebrew) input Yahusha and it translated יהושה
Yeshua translates ישוע but it's supposed to be the Jewish name of Jesus (English translation Joshua). Why are they different?

The site I was on was saying Jesus Jewish name is Yahusha translated יהושע
But google translate says יהושה
I thought Yahusha was an alternative spelling.

Yahusha is a made up name. It is Yeshua from Yehoshua

 

[YahuahSaves]

Yahusha is a made up name. It is Yeshua from Yehoshua

I don’t believe that, but thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I don’t believe that, but thanks for the suggestion.

It has nothing to do with if you believe that or not...1+1=2...it does not equal 11. I looked that up and all I found, as I expected, was use on a bunch of sacred namer sites...

 

[YahuahSaves]

It has nothing to do with if you believe that or not...1+1=2...it does not equal 11. I looked that up and all I found, as I expected, was use on a bunch of sacred namer sites...

I don’t care what you believe is "accurate", the deception of the enemy is the reason his name is not known. The vowels of his name are a guess and don't try to say they aren't because you can't tell me His name being passed down "orally" survived the years of repression. I just don't believe it. Again, thanks for your input.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I don’t care what you believe is "accurate", the deception of the enemy is the reason his name is not known. The vowels of his name are a guess and don't try to say they aren't because you can't tell me His name being passed down "orally" survived the years of repression. I just don't believe it. Again, thanks for your input.

It is accurate in Hebrew. That IS the language we are speaking about. What deception? His Name IS known for over 2000 years!

 

[YahuahSaves]

It is accurate in Hebrew. That IS the language we are speaking about. What deception? His Name IS known for over 2000 years!

Would you agree with this?

"All languages have vowel sounds. But Hebrew didn't have written forms for their vowels. The vowels were known by the speakers proficiency and knowledge of their language, discerned by context. In the 8th Century BC they started “cheating” by using consonants to mark some long or final vowels, eg: Y for /i/ (like the Y in Andy), W for /u/ (like the W in Andrew) and /o/, H for word-final vowels /a/ and /e/ (like H in Hannah). There was no standardised convention for this, so spelling could vary by region. It wasn't until the middle ages that scribes in Galilee finally invented a written full mapping of vowels. Others existed before this, but they didn't stick around as long.

The letter J has changed its sound over time. It was originally the equivalent of our modern letter Y, being the letter 'i' but longer to make it look different. This was a practice in mediaeval Latin, and other languages that use the Latin alphabet used J as well. In many places, the J shifted into the sound it is today. I think the bible was first translated into English before that J shift took place in English. The Hebrew version of Y was transliterated into J, because at the time, this was a correct correspondence between English and Hebrew. We retain the original spelling probably because it's just traditional."

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Would you agree with this?

"All languages have vowel sounds. But Hebrew didn't have written forms for their vowels. The vowels were known by the speakers proficiency and knowledge of their language, discerned by context. In the 8th Century BC they started “cheating” by using consonants to mark some long or final vowels, eg: Y for /i/ (like the Y in Andy), W for /u/ (like the W in Andrew) and /o/, H for word-final vowels /a/ and /e/ (like H in Hannah). There was no standardised convention for this, so spelling could vary by region. It wasn't until the middle ages that scribes in Galilee finally invented a written full mapping of vowels. Others existed before this, but they didn't stick around as long.

The letter J has changed its sound over time. It was originally the equivalent of our modern letter Y, being the letter 'i' but longer to make it look different. This was a practice in mediaeval Latin, and other languages that use the Latin alphabet used J as well. In many places, the J shifted into the sound it is today. I think the bible was first translated into English before that J shift took place in English. The Hebrew version of Y was transliterated into J, because at the time, this was a correct correspondence between English and Hebrew. We retain the original spelling probably because it's just traditional."

Modern Hebrew is based on Hebrew used in the past. Vowels or no vowels, there was tradition of pronunciation that was handed down throughout time. Your naming convention is not one of them. Yeshua is from Yehoshua in Hebrew...

 

[YahuahSaves]

Modern Hebrew is based on Hebrew used in the past. Vowels or no vowels, there was tradition of pronunciation that was handed down throughout time. Your naming convention is not one of them. Yeshua is from Yehoshua in Hebrew...

Why then, are more and more people coming to this understanding?

Yahuah

Yahusha

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Why then, are more and more people coming to this understanding?

Yahuah

Yahusha

As far as I know they are all sacred namers..Lew White?? He is not even Jewish! What credentials does he hold? Do you believe him just because he says to and/or you want to? I don't know of any Jews that would agree with them or you...don't believe everything you see and hear on Youtube...

 

[YahuahSaves]

As far as I know they are all sacred namers..Lew White?? He is not even Jewish! What credentials does he hold? Do you believe him just because he says to and/or you want to? I don't know of any Jews that would agree with them or you...don't believe everything you see and hear on Youtube...

I don’t believe him I believe God. HE is the one that said the word YAHUAH to me 10 years ago. I ignored it and put it behind me until I was saved in the last year. I don't care whether you believe me or not, my aim is to seek God’s Truth, not man's. The guy said in the 2nd video Yahusha is a shortening of the name Yahushua similar to (example) Michael being shortened to Mike. And is found in scripture so is still a valid pronunciation.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The guy said in the 2nd video Yahusha is a shortening of the name Yahushua similar to (example) Michael being shortened to Mike. And is found in scripture so is still a valid pronunciation.

Where is it found in scripture???? He is WRONG, Hebrew does NOT work like that. You think what you want, you will anyway...I'm done

 

[Lulav]

I don’t believe him I believe God. HE is the one that said the word YAHUAH to me 10 years ago. I ignored it and put it behind me until I was saved in the last year. I don't care whether you believe me or not, my aim is to seek God’s Truth, not man's. The guy said in the 2nd video Yahusha is a shortening of the name Yahushua similar to (example) Michael being shortened to Mike. And is found in scripture so is still a valid pronunciation.

Why are you using the sacred name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as your own screen name?

Are you wanting to be like God? You want people here to address you by HIS HOLY NAME?

 

[Der Alte]

Why then, are more and more people coming to this understanding?

Because they have itching ears always wanting to hear some new thing. See e.g. Acts 17:21 and 2 Tim 4:3.

Acts 17:21
(21) (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)
2 Timothy 4:3
(3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;​

The Hebrew name Yeshua occurs 39 times in the Hebrew OT. In every verse it is written in the 225 BC LXX, Septuagint as Ιησοῦς. pronounced Yehsous, NOT Ιασουα, pronounced Yasoua.

1 Chronicles 24:11
(11) the ninth to Jeshua, [ישׁוע] the tenth to Shecaniah;​

Written Greek has no "sh" sound. FYI in Greek a name ending in "a" is feminine. Thus "a" becomes "s" which is masculine.

 

[Der Alte]

Would you agree with this?
"All languages have vowel sounds. But Hebrew didn't have written forms for their vowels. The vowels were known by the speakers proficiency and knowledge of their language, discerned by context. In the 8th Century BC they started “cheating” by using consonants to mark some long or final vowels, eg: Y for /i/ (like the Y in Andy), W for /u/ (like the W in Andrew) and /o/, H for word-final vowels /a/ and /e/ (like H in Hannah). There was no standardised convention for this, so spelling could vary by region. It wasn't until the middle ages that scribes in Galilee finally invented a written full mapping of vowels. Others existed before this, but they didn't stick around as long.
The letter J has changed its sound over time. It was originally the equivalent of our modern letter Y, being the letter 'i' but longer to make it look different. This was a practice in mediaeval Latin, and other languages that use the Latin alphabet used J as well. In many places, the J shifted into the sound it is today. I think the bible was first translated into English before that J shift took place in English. The Hebrew version of Y was transliterated into J, because at the time, this was a correct correspondence between English and Hebrew. We retain the original spelling probably because it's just traditional."

What is your source? My source is the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia, which OBTW is backed up with 2700 years +/- continuous Jewish scholarship.

NAMES OF GOD - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.

www.jewishencyclopedia.com

 

[YahuahSaves]

Why are you using the sacred name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as your own screen name?

Are you wanting to be like God? You want people here to address you by HIS HOLY NAME?

Oh it's God's sacred name now? I thought everyone here said it was delusional to think so. You agree YAHUAH (Ya-who-ah) is how we pronounce the sacred name? Yes or no?