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Another strawman.

Not all Jews know Ancient Hebrew.
How is that a strawman? So you think you are an expert on ancient Hebrew? Were you there 2000BCE? With Abraham? At Mt Sinai? It is very easy to say this or that or it is a mistranslation without proof...so far I have seen none from you...the only reason you have texts is because Jews wrote them down throughout history.
 
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Begging the question? Really?

If you go back and read carefully; you should be able to find it.
yes I am. Easy out...I can post stuff from the internet too...whatever...think what you want...
 
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the only reason you have texts is because Jews wrote them down throughout history.
HA! Nice edit ex post facto.

I would encourage you to read Exodus 6: 16-20
 
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HA! Nice edit ex post facto.

I would encourage you to read Exodus 6: 16-20
No I was actually likely editing while you were responding... Exodus In Hebrew or in English??? What about it?
 
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Yes

Moses wasn't a Jew.
What is your point? Because I said Jews wrote it? Neither was Abraham, but we are all related to him. Hebrews, Israelites, Jews, scribes, you know what I meant...they all were at Sinai and it came down through them...
 
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What is your point? Because I said Jews wrote it?
You said:

the only reason you have texts is because Jews wrote them down throughout history.
False.

I try to avoid making absolute statements.
Hebrews, Israelites, Jews, scribes, you know what I meant...
Those words have different meanings. That's why different words are used.
they all were at Sinai and it came down through them...
False

Not all of them.

This is another absolute statement.
 
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You said:


False.

I try to avoid making absolute statements.

Those words have different meanings. That's why different words are used.

False

Not all of them.

This is another absolute statement.
Are you serious LOL! You know what I meant LOL. Ethic Jews of today are related to those at Sinai in some way. Whatever...
 
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No I don't.

What did you mean?

How about we start with you defining the word "Jew?"
I am not going to play your games. You know what I meant...texts did not appear out of thin air...
 
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I am not going to play your games. You know what I meant...texts did not appear out of thin air...
That's right. Some of them were written with Yah's finger.

The Levites were charged with preserving and teaching Yah's word. The Masoretic text varies and excludes books of that which was preserved by the Zadokites.
 
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That's right. Some of them were written with Yah's finger.

The Levites were charged with preserving and teaching Yah's word. The Masoretic text varies and excludes books of that which was preserved by the Zadokites.

And? We both know where it all came from. That was my point. It was not written by some Norse tribesman. Sadducees. Do you believe all they believed? You seem to be enamored with them.
 
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Where what all came from?


Again I avoid making absolute statements. Do you have a specific question that is relevant to the topic of this thread?
Texts. You brought them up (Sadducees/Zadokites).
 
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Texts. You brought them up (Sadducees/Zadokites).
All of the texts did not come from the Jews, no matter who you define them as; and no, I didn't mention the Sadducees. I haven't read all of the texts from the Zadokites; and again, I try to avoid making absolute statements. Much of what I've read from them has little to no relevance to the topic of this thread. So far I haven't seen anything from them that would raise serious questions in my mind, as do many of the writings of the Pharisees. Not only does the Talmud sometimes contradict scripture; but it often contradicts itself.
 
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One person saying it is a mistranslation don't make it so. Considering that even from 225 BC it was translated "men of renown." or something similar.
It may have been translated that way but maybe it should have been translated as men of a name.
But instead it should be men of thename.
The word is הַשֵּׁם so can easily be pronounced phonetically as hashem
 
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Are you serious LOL! You know what I meant LOL. Ethic Jews of today are related to those at Sinai in some way. Whatever...
I hate to interrupt but that's not true. And it is documented, even in the NT.

There are many today who call themselves Jews but are not blood related to Jacob or Judah. Yeshua wrote about it too.

Also in Luke's gospel we learn of the King of the Jews named Herod.
Herod was 'Jewish' in name only. His family was force converted but he never held to any of
its tenets.
 
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It may have been translated that way but maybe it should have been translated as men of a name.
But instead it should be men of thename.
The word is הַשֵּׁם so can easily be pronounced phonetically as hashem
How many semesters of Biblical Hebrew have you had which qualifies you to contradict ancient sources? As pointed here הַשֵּׁם would be pronounced ha as in hat, shem as in them.
 
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I realise google translate has issues translating Hebrew accurately but I was on another site and in checking the hebrew name of Jesus I found something interesting.

יהושע translates "Joshua".
I reversed it (English to Hebrew) input Yahusha and it translated יהושה
Yeshua translates ישוע but it's supposed to be the Jewish name of Jesus (English translation Joshua). Why are they different?

The site I was on was saying Jesus Jewish name is Yahusha translated יהושע
But google translate says יהושה
I thought Yahusha was an alternative spelling.
 
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