Wrong about Sabbath

zaire · May 25, 2007

The Sabbath was the day of rest for the animal sacraficing sect of 'Judism'.

Jesus rested on Sunday. Jesus teachings were in line with a different sect of 'Judism'.

One thing Christianity based on Jesus was their day of rest was Sunday like Jesus and his followers were.

In other words you may follow an OT law but you dont do what Jesus did. But i dont really care what day you rest on.

This is just to let you know Jesus rested on Sunday the day a certain sect of 'Judism' which Jesus teaching were in line with rested. Lots of research is being done into this at moment so prepare to here more about this soon.

honorthesabbath · May 25, 2007

ah--any scriptures to back that statement?

reddogs · May 25, 2007

All the research in the world wont change what is God's will and His commands, only the tatics change of how Satan uses people to try to destroy and keep the faithful from following God and His Son Jesus Christ.

zaire · May 25, 2007

No there are no scriptures. Because the OT is the animal sacraficing sects books. The laws are not the true laws.

Jesus followed a different group. A group that rested on Sunday. They were anti the sacraficing of animals, they believed it wrong and were vegiterians.

Alot of research is being done into this sect, to find out there laws (maybe the true laws God give) etc. Supposably they were very much shunned by the big animal sacraficing sect and other sects of 'Judisam'.

Its interesting stuff.

reddogs · May 25, 2007

Luke 23:46-56
46And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

47Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man.
48And all the people that came together to that sight, beholding the things which were done, smote their breasts, and returned.
49And all his acquaintance, and the women that followed him from Galilee, stood afar off, beholding these things.
50And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just:
51(The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them

he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God.
52This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.
53And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
54And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. 55And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

freeindeed2 · May 25, 2007

That's a new one on me. Never heard of such a thing. Do you have a link so we could check it out?

RC_NewProtestants · May 25, 2007

What is the name of the sect? I personally think you are repeating things which someone has told you without taking the time to do the research. There are so many people that say things that they may believe are true but the are not true just repeated as if true. whether it is Adventists saying that Jesuits infiltrate the Adventist church or the Holy blood Holy Grail/ Da Vinci Code stuff about Jesus being married with children. When you actually look at what these people use as evidence you quickly see they are teaching spurious things. So what is the research for your statement above.

scapeg0at · May 25, 2007

Genesis 2:3

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

thecountrydoc · May 25, 2007

Hi bytheway,

Your statements concerning the Sabbath, the Law, Jewish history, and Jesus Himself, clearly tell me that you haven't done your homework. There is much to be found in Scripture to subsantiate the challenges that have been made to you here. However you will find none that will bear your burden of proof.

As for Jewish history, let me asure you that there is absolutely no record of any Jewish "sect" ever observing Sunday as a day of rest.

If you have questions please feel free to ask.

Respectfully, your brother in Chist,
Doc

visio · May 25, 2007

You can't prove that biblically or historically. Its totally un-true. The only day Christ ever rested on was Sabbath(Saturday) - To rest on any other day would be in-act changing the day and he never did that. His disciples never kept any other day and they certainly would have been the first to find out Christ had changed the day.

Not sure why you are pulling this one but I don't even believe you believe it.

Your biblical in-accuracy is astounding. Clearly you go by another book. Which again would be historically inaccurate as well.

tall73 · May 25, 2007

First I have a question for you. Who was the new covenant made with?

Second, here are some texts I compiled regarding the early church.

Texts showing Sabbath observance and continued syagogue attendance in the early church.

Act 9:1 But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest
Act 9:2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.

Act 22:19 And I said, 'Lord, they themselves know that in one synagogue after another I imprisoned and beat those who believed in you.

When Saul (Paul) went to find Christians he went to the synagogue as they were still meeting there.

Act 13:14 but they went on from Perga and came to Antioch in Pisidia. And on the Sabbath day they went into the synagogue and sat down.
Act 13:15 After the reading from the Law and the Prophets, the rulers of the synagogue sent a message to them, saying, "Brothers, if you have any word of exhortation for the people, say it."
Act 13:16 So Paul stood up, and motioning with his hand said: "Men of Israel and you who fear God, listen.

This is the first of a number of passages in which Paul attended the synagogue. While he did go at times to preach it is not clear from this passage that this was his intent. He was sitting there and was asked to speak, as happened in synagogues, especially with guests. Whether this was by pre-arrangement we are not told, though later it clearly was.

Act 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews.
Act 17:2 And Paul went in, as was his custom, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures,

It was Paul's costom to attend synagogue and to reason with the Jews. This was for evangelistic purposes, but also fits with Paul's identification of himself as a Jew, who holds to the traditions of the fathers, and part of the sect of Judaism called the Nazarenes:

Act 24:14 But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets.

Even when there was no synagogue Paul observed the Sabbath by finding a place of prayer.

Act 16:13 And on the Sabbath day we went outside the gate to the riverside, where we supposed there was a place of prayer, and we sat down and spoke to the women who had come together.

Over long spans of time Paul continued to meet with both Jews and Gentiles on the Sabbath of each week, never telling them to meet on Sunday, or suggesting a cessation of Sabbath observance.

Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and tried to persuade Jews and Greeks.

James, during the discussion of Acts 15 regardin salvation by faith and circumcision, the law of Moses etc. makes reference to the continuing preaching of Moses in the synagogue and assumes familiarity with the practice on the part of all present, from the various churches throughout the world:

Act 15:21 For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues."

James references the synagogue when speaking to Jewish Christians:

Jam 2:2 For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in,
Jam 2:3 and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, "You sit here in a good place," while you say to the poor man, "You stand over there," or, "Sit down at my feet,"
Jam 2:4 have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

The word translated "assembly" here is the term for the synagogue, συναγωγή.

In these texts the Sabbath day is continually called just that. Whenever the first day is mentioned it is called simply the first day. Ony once do we see an explicit reference to a worship gathering by the church on a Sunday in Acts, and it is late at night, when Paul is about to set out on a journey. It is called only first day, and no reference is made to it being a holy day, or to regular observance.

Mankin · May 25, 2007

There is no evidence to back up that claim in either scripture or other things. The reason why Christians decided to worship on Sunday was because Emperor Constantine of the Roman Empire changed to that day because that was the day of worship for the pagans(I think it was). Constantine was doing that to please both the Christians and the pagans. Don't post something that you have no proof to back up.

tall73 · May 25, 2007

The change started before then. But the early church was clearly keeping the Sabbath.

Adventist Dissident · May 25, 2007

dude you are way off. Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath, man read your bible.

Sophia7 · May 26, 2007

Jesus was a vegetarian? Sounds like the old PETA ad depicting Jesus with an orange-slice halo:

erin74 · May 26, 2007

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