Would the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple stabilize the climate???

[dfw69]

If the Jerusalem Third Temple contains a gigantic atmospheric stabilization device, then maybe it is possible.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[dfw69]

If your a christian then let me give you some advice...

When the 3rd temple is built... Run and hide...

It's the forth temple that will be glorious ..in the days of the forth temple , Man will be at true peace with fellow man...

 

[ViaCrucis]

It's the forth temple that will be glorious ..in the days of the forth temple , Man will be at true peace with fellow man...

If one believes what the New Testament says, then it would seem that in the Age to Come there exists no reason for a special building for the worship of God to exist at all. Indeed, the Christian confession in the New Testament is that all that was special about the Temple has been transferred to Christ and in and through Christ to the entire Church. We are the Temple of God.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[dfw69]

If one believes what the New Testament says, then it would seem that in the Age to Come there exists no reason for a special building for the worship of God to exist at all. Indeed, the Christian confession in the New Testament is that all that was special about the Temple has been transferred to Christ and in and through Christ to the entire Church. We are the Temple of God.

-CryptoLutheran

Tell that to the ones who will build the next temple and see if they will bye it?

My guess is ... No

 

[LoAmmi]

Tell that to the ones who will build the next temple and see if they will bye it?

Why would we, who would build the Temple, believe it was transferred to someone we don't believe to be at all special?

 

[dfw69]

Why would we, who would build the Temple, believe it was transferred to someone we don't believe to be at all special?

See viacrucis ... There you go..try convincing loammi the church is the temple of god... Good luck with that assignment ... Loammi is no pushover..

 

[ViaCrucis]

See viacrucis ... There you go..try convincing loammi the church is the temple of god... Good luck with that assignment ... Loammi is no pushover..

I don't understand why I need to convince Loammi of anything. My comment is in a Christian context, concerning Christian teaching and Christian thought. My comment is irrelevant as far as Judaism is concerned. Jews don't believe the New Testament, Christians do.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[LoAmmi]

I don't understand why I need to convince Loammi of anything. My comment is in a Christian context, concerning Christian teaching and Christian thought. My comment is irrelevant as far as Judaism is concerned. Jews don't believe the New Testament, Christians do.

Yeah, pretty much. To restate what I said before; why would I even consider the idea that the Temple's function has been changed to Jesus/the Church/whatever. Jesus is nobody special in Judaism. Not a prophet, not the messiah, not even someone revered as a great rabbi. His standing in the religion is no better than any other average Jew.

 

[dfw69]

What I'm saying is just because we Christians believe we are the temple of god... Does not mean that an actual temple will be built in the future... Jews will build a temple..and Jesus will build a temple... Us being the temple of god has nothing to do with this fact.... there...now we can go eat lunch

 

[ViaCrucis]

What I'm saying is just because we Christians believe we are the temple of god... Does not mean that an actual temple will be built in the future... Jews will build a temple..and Jesus will build a temple... Us being the temple of god has nothing to do with this fact.... there...now we can go eat lunch

If the temple were rebuilt it wouldn't be relevant to Christianity--that's part of my point. The other part of my point is that according to the writings collected as the New Testament the concept of Temple is not about a structure standing in Jerusalem, but in the Person of Jesus and by extension the Church itself.

Ergo, no temple is necessary in Christian thought because God's Temple is a spiritual house made of people united in Jesus. Thus a Temple built in Jerusalem is ultimately irrelevant; and there is no need for a Temple in the Age to Come because, as the Revelation says, God Himself will dwell with humankind. According to St. Paul in his letter to Galatians, the only Jerusalem that matters for Christians is the "Jerusalem above". The promises to Abraham have come to all nations through Christ, the prophetic hope concerning the coming together of all nations to Zion to worship God is brought into reality in and through Jesus. The Messianic hope has come into reality, Jesus is the Messiah and the Messianic Age has come and is coming; the kingdom of God is both now and not yet.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[LoAmmi]

If the temple were rebuilt it wouldn't be relevant to Christianity--that's part of my point. The other part of my point is that according to the writings collected as the New Testament the concept of Temple is not about a structure standing in Jerusalem, but in the Person of Jesus and by extension the Church itself.

It only becomes important to you guys if we are right. Of course, in that case Christianity is gone.

 

[dfw69]

It only becomes important to you guys if we are right. Of course, in that case Christianity is gone.

Thus run for the hills cause persecution comes before victory...

 

[ViaCrucis]

It only becomes important to you guys if we are right. Of course, in that case Christianity is gone.

If Messiah comes, and it's not Jesus, and the Temple is rebuilt, then yeah it's going to mean I'm going to be in the market for a new religion.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[LoAmmi]

Thus run for the hills cause persecution comes before victory...

Ugh. Please stop throwing this out there. I've explained to you before there is no persecution. I find it distasteful for you to continue to suggest we would oppress anybody were we to be proven correct in the end.

 

[dfw69]

If the temple were rebuilt it wouldn't be relevant to Christianity--that's part of my point. The other part of my point is that according to the writings collected as the New Testament the concept of Temple is not about a structure standing in Jerusalem, but in the Person of Jesus and by extension the Church itself.

Ergo, no temple is necessary in Christian thought because God's Temple is a spiritual house made of people united in Jesus. Thus a Temple built in Jerusalem is ultimately irrelevant; and there is no need for a Temple in the Age to Come because, as the Revelation says, God Himself will dwell with humankind. According to St. Paul in his letter to Galatians, the only Jerusalem that matters for Christians is the "Jerusalem above". The promises to Abraham have come to all nations through Christ, the prophetic hope concerning the coming together of all nations to Zion to worship God is brought into reality in and through Jesus. The Messianic hope has come into reality, Jesus is the Messiah and the Messianic Age has come and is coming; the kingdom of God is both now and not yet.

-CryptoLutheran

This is what you believe and I don't doubt we are the temple


This is what I believe...

The future temple will be built by a false messiah ... It's the 3rd temple... And Christians will be persecuted when this happens

They will think this kingdom shall never end for the messianic age has come and 10 kingdoms of the world will be behind this age

But at some point the man of sin comes and destroys this false messianic age... And Israel will cry our to god ....and that temple will be destroyed because of the idol worship

Then the true messiah comes and all. Israel will be saved and he will reign 1000 years and the millennial temple will be built.... 4th temple

 

[dfw69]

If Messiah comes, and it's not Jesus, and the Temple is rebuilt, then yeah it's going to mean I'm going to be in the market for a new religion.

-CryptoLutheran

And disobey a direct command from The Lord to wait for him to return?... Not me

 

[ViaCrucis]

And disobey a direct command from The Lord to wait for him to return?... Not me

I think you missed my point.

I was saying that if Jesus isn't the Messiah, then Christianity isn't true.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[dfw69]

Ugh. Please stop throwing this out there. I've explained to you before there is no persecution. I find it distasteful for you to continue to suggest we would oppress anybody were we to be proven correct in the end.

Your heart may be in the right place loammi... But what would you do when your messiah comes persecuting through noachide law and Torah law?

 

[LoAmmi]

Your heart may be in the right place loammi... But what would you do when your messiah comes persecuting through noachide law and Torah law?

HE WOULDN'T BE THE MESSIAH

 

[ViaCrucis]

This is what you believe and I don't doubt we are the temple


This is what I believe...

The future temple will be built by a false messiah ... It's the 3rd temple... And Christians will be persecuted when this happens

They will think this kingdom shall never end for the messianic age has come and 10 kingdoms of the world will be behind this age

But at some point the man of sin comes and destroys this false messianic age... And Israel will cry our to god ....and that temple will be destroyed because of the idol worship

Then the true messiah comes and all. Israel will be saved and he will reign 1000 years and the millennial temple will be built.... 4th temple

Right, I was raised on a steady diet of Dispensationalism, so I'm familiar with the general outline. It was taught in my home, by every adult I knew, at every church I belonged to, my school from K-8th grade, and I read the books and argued it 'til I was blue in the face when I discovered there were people on the internet who didn't believe it.

I just don't think there's any validity to it.

-CryptoLutheran