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Would the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple stabilize the climate???

Do you believe that God can and will give rain if Jews allowed to observe Tabernacles

  • Yes, this is a small miracle for the God of Abraham.

  • No, age of miracles is over or such miracles are a silly myth.

  • No this would cause WWIII, we'd all die and no rain needed anymore!

  • This prophecy cannot be fulfilled until AFTER Zechariah 14:1 occurs!

  • I am open to the possibility that this miracle could occur!


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Funny. The Muslims would freak out if they lost thier mosque. Apparently they think holy sites should be respected.....which is odd considering their mosque is built on someone else's holy site, and they are still desecrating that site to this day by demolition. They also did a number on Hagia Sophia, etc
 
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Funny. The Muslims would freak out if they lost thier mosque. Apparently they think holy sites should be respected.....which is odd considering their mosque is built on someone else's holy site, and they are still desecrating that site to this day by demolition. They also did a number on Hagia Sophia, etc

That's pretty much true with any religion in charge.



On the concept of the lost tribe being British or American; it is a pretty garbage philosophy in my infinitely humble opinion. :sorry:
 
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That's pretty much true with any religion in charge.

Probably a little too generalized as a statement, but I get it. It's about hypocrisy in this case- say one thing, doing another. For example, expecting other faiths to protect and respect your holy places while you hammer theirs.

I think other faiths tend to be a little more honest and blunt about it, or tend to actually carry out their words. Historically, no one faith has performed perfectly, but in the present time, it's pretty much only the Muslims who will riot, kill, threaten, litigate and maim if their delicate and precious religous feelings are "hurt" or offended.

On the concept of the lost tribe being British or American; it is a pretty garbage philosophy in my infinitely humble opinion. :sorry:

Agreed 100%.
 
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Funny. The Muslims would freak out if they lost thier mosque. Apparently they think holy sites should be respected.....which is odd considering their mosque is built on someone else's holy site, and they are still desecrating that site to this day by demolition. They also did a number on Hagia Sophia, etc


Yes, this is an extremely important aspect of the whole subject that must be taken into consideration....but.....Islamic prophecy predicts that the "Jesus of Islam" will come along at the same time as the Jews rebuild their Jerusalem Third TEmple complex....so if perhaps the person who Moslems come to recognize as the Mahdi and or the "Jesus of Islam" is the same person who Christians eventually recognize as having fulfilled the role of a modern John the Baptist/Elijah......then the stage is set for a whole new level of understanding between Christians and Moslems and Jews!!!!

I personally feel that the years 2028 to 2035 are EXTREMELY important years in events regarding Jerusalem!! As a Christian I am biased toward there being significance to the 2000 year anniversary of the death, burial and resurrection of Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua!!!!!

I believe that the Ezekiel Jerusalem Complex will be built for the brethren of Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua.....on HIS timing....and even the modern King David type of person who is at this time raised up for the Jewish people......will call Jesus/Yehoshua......Lord......Messiah???!!!


Mat 22:42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, [The Son] of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
 
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Allow me to acquaint my head with the hard surface of my desk...

Aaaah, that's better.

Seriously, if you wait for a deity to fix the consequences of our pollution, NOTHING will change for the better. Ever.

But Jane.....what if Christians discussing supporting the Jewish people in the rebuilding of their Jerusalem Third Temple complex.....could inspire Jewish scholars and officials to be enthusiastically engaged with both Christians and Moslems in discussions that included heavy investment in turning deserts green through large scale desalination of ocean water?????!!

Wouldn't that be good news for the residents of New Orleans and southern Florida and Holland and Bangladesh??????
 
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That's pretty much true with any religion in charge.



On the concept of the lost tribe being British or American; it is a pretty garbage philosophy in my infinitely humble opinion. :sorry:

Spoken like a descendant of Ephrayim indeed!!!!!!!!!!!

We Ephraimites tend toward being rather egotistical....and pedantic and argumentative....even on our most humble of days!!!!??



Hosea 5:5 And the pride of Israel doth testify to his face: therefore shall Israel and Ephraim fall in their iniquity; Judah also shall fall with them.

"The pride of Yisra'el testifies to his face. Therefore Yisra'el and Efrayim will stumble in their iniquity. Yehudah also will stumble with them." (HNV)
 
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I'm curious. What evidence do you have that you are an Ephraimite?

Can you think of any other group of people who ended up with as many "gates of their enemies" as we Brits inherited strangely after 2520 years
(7 x 360 = 2520) from the captivity of the northern Kingdom of Israel by the Assyrian Empire in 721 - 718 BCE??!!

I personally am just not sufficiently well informed to refute the scholarship of Mr. Yair Davidiy on hardly anything that he writes!!!!???
 
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If the Jerusalem Third Temple contains a gigantic atmospheric stabilization device, then maybe it is possible.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Making the Ancient of Days sufficiently happy......so that The Father who Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua stated emphatically was greater than him....would be inspired to so much as lift his finger.....will have an astonishing effect on the climate of any nation that will allow Jews and Noahides to freely travel back and forth to observe the Festival of Tabernacles!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7695357/

Could God be the most emotional being in the universe????
This would seem to correspond with the Creator actually having thought up and choreographed an infinite number of Big Events over infinite time in the past as some physicists seem to believe has been the case!

Investing infinite time in the creation....would certainly tend to give the Creator a greater emotional attachment to all of us than we can begin to imagine...considering how young we are.


“When My Father moves His little finger, the whole universe trembles. To shake the nations with words does not impress anyone who dwells here. But when even the least of My brethren on earth shows love, it brings joy to My Father’s heart. When even the most humble church sings to My Father with true love in their hearts, He silences all of heaven to listen to them. He knows that one cannot help but to worship when they are beholding His glory here,but when those who are living in such darkness and difficulty sing with true hearts to Him, it touches Him more than all of the myriads of heaven can.

“Many times, the broken notes from earth caused all of heaven to weep with joy as they beheld My Father being touched. A few holy ones struggling to express their adoration for Him has many times caused Him to weep.Every time I see My brethren touch Him with true worship, it makes the pain and grief I knew on the cross seem like a small price to pay. Nothing brings Me more joy than when you worship My Father. I went to the cross so that you could worship Him through Me. It is in this worship that you, the Father and I are all one.” (Pastor Rick Joyner, chapter 15, page 85, The Vision)
TheVision The Final Quest the Call RickJoyner PDF
 
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That is dubious at best. It always seems like either wishful thinking or outright lying. I've seen it before, there's no real evidence except that which exists within the mind of the person.

What exactly is 7 x 360 supposed to represent?

On the other hand "only by pride comes contention" and we Ephraimites came up with the most egotistical as well as most divisive understanding of the Yair Davidiy theories as they were understood in the 16 to 18 th centuries.

We Ephraimites and Manassahites used the conquest of Canaan to justify our treatment of the First Nations peoples of Canada and America:

yahoo.com/group/Tate4CentralNova/message/16
Holocaust on First Nations peoples.......

......."In the province of Newfoundland my English, Scotch and Irish
distant relatives organized a total holocaust on
the First Nations peoples. Were it not for the presence of
a sizeable French community in Nova Scotia there is a
real possibility that the same policy would have been pursued
here in my province also.".......
 
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That is dubious at best. It always seems like either wishful thinking or outright lying. I've seen it before, there's no real evidence except that which exists within the mind of the person.

What exactly is 7 x 360 supposed to represent?

An excellent explanation of 2520 years going by from the fall of Jerusalem to the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 is fairly easy to find online.

It seems logical that something similar would exist regarding the captivity and restoration of the northern kingdom of Israel/Ephrayim??!!


Leviticus 26:18"And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins."
 
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Let me try another way.

What is 360?

The Hebrew calendar has 12 months of thirty days each. As a solar/lunar calendar they also fit in 7 extra months in a 19 year time cycle to balance out the difference between a 360 day year with a 365.25 day or so year??!!
 
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No it doesn't.

LoAmmi, I honestly would appreciate being corrected in any flaws of my understanding of the Hebrew calendar.....I did find one of the better articles on the 2520 cycle:

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...ljt8Giv5aC8YsyfXWBI9fcA&bvm=bv.44342787,d.aWc

Dr. Grant Jeffrey:

Ezekiel’s Vision of the Rebirth of Israel in 1948 Ezekiel’s prophecy of the rebirth of Israel in 1948 and its precise fulfillment in our generation on May 15, 1948 is one of the greatest fulfillments of Bible prophecy in history. Twenty-five centuries ago, while he was a slave during the Babylonian Captivity, (606 – 536 BC), the Lord revealed to the prophet Ezekiel, the precise year – 1948 – when Israel would finally be restored to the Promised Land.. The Jew’s eternal relationship to the Holy Land is a major theme of Bible prophecy. In the Bible, times were specified in precise detail regarding the duration of the time when the Jews were to be exiled from the Promised Land and when God will allow them to return to the Holy Land. The First Captivity – (Egyptian) – 430 years The Lord prophesied to Abraham precisely when the Jews would return from Egypt from their First Captivity that lasted 430 years of captivity in Egypt (Genesis 15:13; Exodus 12:40-41). The Second Captivity (Babylonian) – 70 years Similarly, the Second Captivity of 70 years in Babylon, as prophesied in Jeremiah 25:11, ended precisely in 536 BC when the Jews returned to Jerusalem as decreed by the Persian king Cyrus the Great. The Third Captivity (Worldwide) – 2520 years The Scriptures contain numerous prophecies about the final return of the Jewish exiles to their Promised Land in the "last days." Ezekiel was taken to Babylon as a captive. Ezekiel was aware of Jeremiah’s prophecy (Jeremiah 25:11) that the Jew’s captivity in Babylon would last seventy years. However, Ezekiel received another prophecy concerning God’s judgment upon the Jew’s disobedience and the precise duration of the remaining Jewish exile from their Promised Land................
 
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LoAmmi, I honestly would appreciate being corrected in any flaws of my understanding of the Hebrew calendar.....I did find one of the better articles on the 2520 cycle:

The calender has days of 29 days and 30 days in months. An average year will have 354 days not 360.
 
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The calender has days of 29 days and 30 days in months. An average year will have 354 days not 360.

Yes....interesting.......I am not at all sure where this differs from the comparison that Dr. Grant Jeffrey and others use in calculating the 2520???!!!

Thank you for this detail LoAmmi!!??
 
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