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Scholar Tuvia Sagiv has answered this.... in summary.... .there is lots of room for the same sized structure as the TEmple of Solomon without disturbing either the Dome of the Rock or the Aqsa Mosque.
In Sid Roth's book, The Incomplete Church, an estimate is given that there may have been 400,000 Messianic Jewish believers living in the province of Judaea at the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt.
Tsvi Misinai and The Engagement Movement present evidence that these may be largely the ancestors of the Palestinian people.
Matter of fact, the Jewish believers were the first Church, we gentiles were grafted into it. We need to remember that because paul made a point to tell us to remember it. Romans 11:18-21
Sure... here is a link to a discussion that I got going on this......I can't find any information on Tuvia Sagiv. Can you tell me something about his credentials and point to me where his work can be found in referred journals.
14. Conclusion
"An examination and comparison between the areas and temples built throughout the Roman Empire and among the visible archeological remains in the Moriah Area, and consideration of the written testimonies and drawings lead us to the following conclusions:
The Moriah Area is not the Temple Mount built by Herod
The Moriah Area as we know it today was built by Hadrian
The Al-Aksa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock were built upon the remains of the Roman Temple.
The Temple Mount is hidden and enclosed within the Moriah Area
The Jewish Temple, or at least its remnants, exist between Al-Aksa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in the area of Al Kas fountain.
The assumption that the Moriah Area is the work of Hadrian and his successors opens before the investigators new horizons for the understanding of Jerusalem and her secrets (56)." (Tuvia Sagiv)
I thought so too until I read statements by near death experiencer Dr. Richard Eby that did make the idea of a rapture event much more logical to me.I have no idea whether there will ever be a Third Temple or whether that will be a good idea, but Left Behind is bad theology as well as eschatology.
How about this proposal......Um...I don't even quite know what to say here.
......SigmundHIvarsson wrote: Just ask me
The Petra Project
is a hydro electric
project that creates
clean electricity with
no carbon emissions
It consists of a seventy
kilometer tunnel between
the Mediterranean sea and
the dead sea 1232 feet below
tunnel boring machines are usually
nine meters in diameter an can be found
used because they are usually used and parked
My Swiss Friend Dr Bugnon is the world foremost
expert in tunnels since he bored the one under the Alps
there is nothing secret about the technology and many consultants
More details are available upon request. Think of an old fashion water mill
So... if Christians help to get a building built, that for us is more-or-less irrelevant and has its meaning and purpose seen as fulfilled in Christ and His Church (and further, will only escalate needless violence in a region that already suffers from excessive and needless violence), then we can expedite the Parousia?
That about right?
-CryptoLutheran
You may well be onto something...… if Multiverse Theory indicates non-linear time...… (multiple Ezekiel 37 events)..... then..... in various time lines..... all of those answers could become most relevant........(I would not want to live in the time line created by option #2............… but....... somebody has got to do it????!)I voted for everything because I could.
Sure... here is a link to a discussion that I got going on this......
https://apps.facebook.com/forumforpages/180898612019485/6d0e6b1a-c408-4589-b800-9cc294039ec0/0
Canadian support for rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple Complex can alter Middle East political formula.
Basically, yes!
But this needs to be linked to an increase in understanding of the historical reality of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus as actually being Jewish......… who cleared crooks out of the Temple area..... who urged his followers to pray..... that their flight...… (over thirty years after his death burial and resurrection).......... not be on the weekly .... or annual....Sabbaths?!
You won't find any 'crooks' on the Temple Mount. Muslims are very particular about maintaining the dignity of their holy sites. Where you will find the crooks in droves is on the Via Dolorosa. There is a souvenir shop at every stage of the cross along with hawkers trying to persuade you to go inside. Then when you get to what is presumably the holiest site of Christendom, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, the priest will tell you how Jesus is the Resurrection and the Life and hold his hand out for money right then and there. A Muslim holds the keys to that Church because otherwise the various sects of Christendom would fight over it.
That doesn't tell me anything about his credentials or where he has published in refereed journals.
All religions have crooks of one kind or another...........
......it is difficult for either Christians or Muslims to give Jews credit for what they accomplished in the past.... thus the illegal excavations on the Temple Mount that seem to be an attempt to rid the area of evidence that Jews were there for 3000 years or more...........
Of course. But I'm referring specifically to the use of holy sites or commercial purposes.
I'm not sure which excavations you are talking about. When I first visited Israel the Palestinians were complaining that the Israelis were tunneling under the Temple Mount, weakening the Aqsa mosque and also damaging the Arab quarter. Later, the Waqf Foundation did conduct some of excavations of their own which were not properly conducted by archaeologists but what was damaged was Crusader sites not anything to do with the Jews. I don't know any Palestinians who deny that there were Jews in Jerusalem 3000 years ago. There were Jews in Jerusalem during the entire time Muslims ruled the area. It was only the Romans/Byzantines that wouldn't let them live there. In any case, what difference does it make whether there were Jews in Palestine 3000 years ago? 3000 years ago my ancestors were Celts just entering Europe. Doesn't give me any special rights there.
Since Israel took control of the Old City in 1967, archaeological excavations in the vicinity of the Mount have been undertaken by Israeland the Jordanian/Palestinian-led Jerusalem Islamic Waqf. Both excavations have been controversial and criticized. Israeli and Jewish groups have criticized excavations conducted by the Waqf, the Muslim authority in charge of the Al-Aqsa Mosque.
I don't know a whole lot about that......
I recently ran into a theory put forward by Ernest Martin that the actual Temple of Solomon may have been over the Gihon Spring...... also a good distance away from The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque.......
Just look up Ernest Martin on Wikipedia.... it is quite interesting......
What the Waqf has already done on the Temple Mount is in some ways just as bad as those other crooks that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus chased of the Temple grounds during his lifetime.........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excavations_at_the_Temple_Mount
Yeah, but what his bio indicates he hasn't a single degree in archaeology and that his PhD was not from an institution that was accredited at the time. Ambassador College doesn't get accredited until 1994 and the school closes in 1997. He got his PhD in education from them in 1966 which qualified him only to teach at Ambassador College.
I don't take seriously these kinds of claims that don't pass academic peer-reviewm but given his links with the WW Church of God is just as well that those members believe it. It might prevent attacks like the one made by one church member who attempted to burn down the Aqsa Mosque. I saw the damage he did with my own eyes.
You did get the part where this article says that the Waqf destroyed Crusader sites, not Jewish ones? It is unfortunate, because those are historically important as well but they are certainly not sacred.
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