Would life on Mars be a problem for your religious beliefs?

[Doveaman]

I thought we were over this already.

Did you get it the first time?

 

[Elendur]

Did you get it the first time?

Yup, did you?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7678012-13/

 

[The Engineer]

Animals do not wear clothes.

So nudists are animals? So puppies become human when you put them in an outfit?

This is ridiculous! We already had this debate!

 

[AECellini]

Animals do not wear clothes.

yea we do.

 

[Doveaman]

So nudists are animals?

Nudists wear clothes when they are not nude.

So puppies become human when you put them in an outfit?

Okay, let's clarify.

Animals do not wear clothes voluntarily.

 

[Doveaman]

yea we do.

We wear clothes because it is within our nature to do so.

That's what makes us different from the animals, our nature to wear clothes.

 

[freezerman2000]

Good job of derailing the thread!

 

[pgp_protector]

Nudists wear clothes when they are not nude.
Okay, let's clarify.

Animals do not wear clothes voluntarily.

ah so babies are Animals, they don't wear clothing voluntarily.
ETA:
Wonders what the Next Modification will be.

 

[The Engineer]

We wear clothes because it is within our nature to do so.

That's just an emerging property that comes along with our superior brains. It's nothing you can use to differentiate animals and humans. Our high intelligence sets us apart from animals, but it doesn't mean we aren't still animals. If that was the case, we could pick any superior attribute from an animal and claim it's not an animal.

So humans wouldn't be animals because they are smart.
Cheetahs wouldn't be animals because they are very fast.
Elephants aren't animals because they are very big.

You see where this is going? The line that you draw between animals and humans is completely arbitrary.

 

[freezerman2000]

I can understand why it wouldn't harm your faith, but why would it strengthen it? Unless the existence of alien life is something your faith is built on (e.g., Scientology), I'm stumped

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, but it would strengthen my faith because it would show me that God's wisdom is greater for creating life on more than one planet,that His love of life is so great,that He would not limit it to just one planet.
The wisdom part(I know someone would question that),If something catastrophic were to happen to life on this planet,life would continue elsewhere.

 

[Doveaman]

ah so babies are Animals, they don't wear clothing voluntarily.
ETA:
Wonders what the Next Modification will be.

Babies are still human. They will wear clothes eventually.

 

[Doveaman]

That's just an emerging property that comes along with our superior brains. It's nothing you can use to differentiate animals and humans. Our high intelligence sets us apart from animals, but it doesn't mean we aren't still animals. If that was the case, we could pick any superior attribute from an animal and claim it's not an animal.

Wearing clothes is not a superior trait. It's a convenient choice. Animals are too stupid to make that choice, even when they are freezing to death. Animals are nothing more than uncivilized beasts.

So humans wouldn't be animals because they are smart.
Cheetahs wouldn't be animals because they are very fast.
Elephants aren't animals because they are very big.
You see where this is going? The line that you draw between animals and humans is completely arbitrary.

Being smart is your idea, not mine.

Humans are different from animals because they wear clothes voluntarily. Period.

 

[Doveaman]

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, but it would strengthen my faith because it would show me that God's wisdom is greater for creating life on more than one planet,

You did not know that before?

that His love of life is so great,that He would not limit it to just one planet.

Did you know angels are alive.

The wisdom part(I know someone would question that),If something catastrophic were to happen to life on this planet,life would continue elsewhere.

If God love life so much, why would He create life that could easily be snuffed out by a catastrophe when He could just create everyone like angels.

 

[freezerman2000]

So Angels live on planets..

I thought all along that they are the HEAVENLY host.

Life as we know it,is fragile.
He already had His Angels when terrestrial life started..why would He want more?

 

[freezerman2000]

You did not know that before?
Did you know angels are alive.

If God love life so much, why would He create life that could easily be snuffed out by a catastrophe when He could just create everyone like angels.

.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Wearing clothes is not a superior trait. It's a convenient choice. Animals are too stupid to make that choice, even when they are freezing to death. Animals are nothing more than uncivilized beasts.
Being smart is your idea, not mine.

Humans are different from animals because they wear clothes voluntarily. Period.

Then my dog, who grabs a blanket and wraps himself in it when it's cold, constitutes a human.

Hey, Odin, guess what? Guess you're on to people food!

 

[juvenissun]

ah so babies are Animals, they don't wear clothing voluntarily.
ETA:
Wonders what the Next Modification will be.

Babies DO wear clothes, done by their parents.

 

[juvenissun]

That wasn't your opinion at all! Your opinion was that, as long as we see no animals, evolution is wrong!

That is the consequence of what I said.

Are you an engineer? I think your logic system may have a little problem.

 

[florida2]

juvenissun, I still don't understand.

If a planet has what we would consider harsh conditions so that only extremophile bacteria can survive there, you say that disproves evolution? How?

There are places on our planet where only extremophiles can survive - animals etc. wouldn't be able to live. Does that prove evolution wrong in your mind?

 

[freezerman2000]

Babies DO wear clothes, done by their parents.

If a baby is forced to wear clothes, that is not voluntary.
Your point is a strawman.