Would life on Mars be a problem for your religious beliefs?

[Wiccan_Child]

I never said they were.

The gathering of the planets were recorded from human memories around the world, which meant that the gathering of the planets was witnessed by modern humans in the recent past.

Some believe it was around the time of Noah's flood and the confusion at the City of Babel. The tower that was being built by those ancient people to reach the "heavens" was likely being built to reach the "planet-gods" that resided in the heavens. This is why God came down to halt their idolatry.

After a month away, it's nice to know some things haven't changed

 

[selfinflikted]

After a month away, it's nice to know some things haven't changed

WElcome back! Now, if we could just find AV. Did someone check between the couch cushions?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

I already posted that I could not find any scientific literature on the topic of life on earth arising from Mars. I did not just Google that, either, I went to a prominent and extensive scientific database.

If you know something I do not, please post your source for that claim.

Life on Mars? | Science & Nature | Smithsonian Magazine
Its a fairly well known theory.

http://news.discovery.com/space/mars-life-120315.html

http://www.space.com/11209-mars-earth-life-origins-evolution.html

I don't know where you were looking.

 

[Doveaman]

Bahahaha!

Sometimes this place gets me so down, I have to ask myself why I still come here. This is one of those reasons.

It's a fact that only humans wear clothes. Why is that funny to you?

 

[selfinflikted]

It's a fact that only humans wear clothes. Why is that funny to you?

The very fact that you have to ask why your previous statement was so funny just drives it right out of the park!

 

[Blackwater Babe]

It's a fact that only humans wear clothes. Why is that funny to you?

 

[Doveaman]

The very fact that you have to ask why your previous statement was so funny just drives it right out of the park!

It wasn't my statement, but I agree with it. Humans wear clothes and not animals. Why is that funny?

 

[Blackwater Babe]

It wasn't my statement, but I agree with it. Humans wear clothes and not animals. Why is that funny?

Google "naked".

 

[Doveaman]

After a month away, it's nice to know some things haven't changed

Yes, God still exist.

 

[pgp_protector]

It's a fact that only humans wear clothes. Why is that funny to you?

Are you including paint or leaves in your definition of clothing again?

 

[freezerman2000]

I don't think so. Unless the organism can not survive, otherwise it will evolve, even the environment is maintained at a constant condition. That is what evolution said.

And don't forget that the (any) planet evolves too. So it is not possible to have a planet with a constant environment for a long period of time. If there were aliens, they may see the earth environment is almost a constant.

Evolution "said" no such thing.Conditions have to be optimal for evolution to take place.If they are not, evolution would not take place.

Not necessarily.Other planets that support life may not go through drastic extremes in their environments.
Europa may have life,and it is constantly under a thick layer of ice.

 

[florida2]

It wasn't my statement, but I agree with it. Humans wear clothes and not animals. Why is that funny?

Am I not a human when I'm in the shower?

 

[The Engineer]

I think I'm not going to answer that sauropod-thing anytime soon. This thread has been derailed without redemption, but I must say, it's really funny!

 

[freezerman2000]

I think I'm not going to answer that sauropod-thing anytime soon. This thread has been derailed without redemption, but I must say, it's really funny!

Gotta agree with ya..certain parties are famous for derailing threads so they can spout their own brand of "science".
It's pretty sad that when it comes to a thread that looks like it could be interesting,it devolves into the same old, same old.

 

[Doveaman]

Are you kidding me? Are. You. Kidding. Me!?

Nope.

I asked you whether the link you posted supported your thesis; now, you give me a completely different link!

The second link was recommended by the same scientists who did the study in the first link.

It was used to give support to their idea that gravity is not a constant, but variable that depends on the plasma environment.

"The Electric Universe offers a different point of view. Gravity is not a constant. It's a variable that depends on the plasma environment. So Earth in the Mesozoic Era may have had less gravity than it has today. Holden calculates that in order for the largest dinosaurs to function, gravity must have been at least 1/3 (and possibly as low as 1/4) what it is today."

 

[serge546]

Its a fairly well known theory.

I don't know where you were looking.

Okayyyyyyy.... Let me break it down for you since you either missed my previous post entirely or you did not understand it. I already covered the ALH 84001 meteorite. Here is my previous post.

"I could not find any literature reviews over hypotheses involving life from Mars going to earth on the Science Direct database.

I'm assuming you are talking about the ALH 84001 meteorite which supposedly contained fossilized bacteria and other chemicals thought to be produced by life only. As far as I can tell, these claims have never been verified or taken very seriously in the scientific community."

The ALH 84001 meteorite was thought to contain structures from fossilized bacteria. This has never been validated nor widely accepted by the scientific community. NASA itself denied the results. Here is a quote from NASA regarding the ALH 84001 meteorite:

"NASA is a scientific and technical agency committed to a culture of openness with the media and public. While we value the free exchange of ideas, data, and information as part of scientific and technical inquiry, NASA cannot stand behind or support a scientific claim unless it has been peer-reviewed or thoroughly examined by other qualified experts. This paper was submitted in 2007 to the International Journal of Astrobiology. However, the peer review process was not completed for that submission. NASA also was unaware of the recent submission of the paper to the Journal of Cosmology or of the paper's subsequent publication. Additional questions should be directed to the author of the paper." - Dr. Paul Hertz, chief scientist of NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington"

Moving on. You seem to not know the difference between a theory and a hypothesis.Your second "source" is nothing more than a scientific hypothesis.

Your third "source" is a hypothesis, as well. It is a researcher trying to find life on Mars. The researcher himself states "It's a long shot". He then states IF life is found and IF it is related to us, life could have come from Mars. That is NOT a theory. That is a hypothesis, at best.

So let me tell you this: I already posted where I looked for sources, it was Science Direct, a huge scientific database. This database has no scientific literature regarding life on Earth coming from Mars (Granted, I only looked for about an hour but searches get less and less relevant the further you go). You completely missed the point of my posts.

Lastly, you are getting your "sources" from Google. Sorry, but you are the one that does not know where to look for your sources. Though I respect the Discovery Channel, it is hardly a source for actual scientific literature. This is clearly evident due to their misuse of the word "theory". If you require aid looking for actual scientific literature I would be happy to help.

 

[Doveaman]

Though I respect the Discovery Channel, it is hardly a source for actual scientific literature.

What about the National Geographic Channel?

Are you saying all those documentaries about the universe and geology and evolution isn't actual science?

 

[GodActsOnMe]

I never said they were.

The gathering of the planets were recorded from human memories around the world, which meant that the gathering of the planets was witnessed by modern humans in the recent past.

Some believe it was around the time of Noah's flood and the confusion at the City of Babel. The tower that was being built by those ancient people to reach the "heavens" was likely being built to reach the "planet-gods" that resided in the heavens. This is why God came down to halt their idolatry.

My word, are we to get something magical out of the event? Simply because you can see all 5 naked-eye planets with, well, your naked eye, does not mean anything. When it comes down to statistics, we are a dead species walking when it comes to debris in space. ;D

 

[Doveaman]

My word, are we to get something magical out of the event?

Nope, it was all natural.

Simply because you can see all 5 naked-eye planets with, well, your naked eye, does not mean anything.

Not only did the ancients see the planets with their naked eye, they were also terrified of them because of their destructive behavior.

The scars and craters on the planets attest to their destructive behavior.

Human sacrifice was probably introduced to appease the angry planet-gods.

When it comes down to statistics, we are a dead species walking when it comes to debris in space.

But yet we are not dead.

 

[dad]

Sure, why not?
Scientists like to tell us that life on Earth could have came from Mars, so it also likely that life on Mars could have came from Earth.

Bingo.