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Would Jesus deport illegal immigrants?

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Scoutship said:
Most immigrants nowadays are not Christians and only come to our Christian countries to scrounge and freeload off us-
"..many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh have gone out into the world...
do not take them into your house or welcome them.

Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work" (2 John 1:7-11)
Got a source for that?

I asked because a report in Christian Post says that your claim is wildly off.

Source: Most immigrants vulnerable to deportation identify as Christian: report
I've never seen a copy of the Christian Post and don't care two hoots what they say.
As for sources, it's common knowledge that immigrants come to scrounge off us, one of their tricks is to pretend to be Christians so the misguided do-gooders will roll out the red carpet for them..:)-

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..I am learning Spanish so I can share God's word...
Good for you mate, the Spanish are a great Christian people, they and El Cid kicked the muslims out of Spain after a 700-year campaign..:)

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Israel was certainly a 'launch pad' for the subsequent spreading of Christianity worldwide..:)
Paul said -"For this is what the Lord has commanded us: 'I have made you a light for the gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.' (Acts 13:47)
So I was thinking ... What about those who are illegal everywhere? Wouldn't Jesus be drawn to them specifically?

What would Jesus think of a nation that would cast such people out?
 
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What would Jesus think of a nation that would cast such people out?
He was specific. God's will will be done in earth as it is in Heaven. No more human control or governments. We have proven time and time again that we are inept and incapable of self regulation.
 
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interesting oints.

As Christians we do not say that we should allow people below a certain level of income - to rob banks.

False equivalencies. A person fleeing to another country because of poverty, war, or otherwise, and attempting to live and work peacefully in that country, is hardly equivalent to someone trying to rob a bank (which is usually a violent act).
 
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Scoutship said:
Israel was certainly a 'launch pad' for the subsequent spreading of Christianity worldwide..:)
Paul said -"For this is what the Lord has commanded us: 'I have made you a light for the gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.' (Acts 13:47)
So I was thinking ... What about those who are illegal everywhere? Wouldn't Jesus be drawn to them specifically?
What would Jesus think of a nation that would cast such people out?

If anybody rejects him, Jesus wants nothing more to do with them, and neither does God, they had their chance..:)-

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If anybody rejects him, Jesus wants nothing more to do with them, and neither does God, they had their chance
"Forgive them Father for they know not what they do:"
 
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With the national conversation focused on immigration, Americans are being forced to choose between compassion and security. But this is a false dichotomy.

As Christians, we must reject the misleading framework that pits Christian love against national identity. Biblically speaking, this is not an either-or scenario. What if Scripture affirms both national sovereignty and moral responsibility? When President Trump enforced immigration laws, critics labeled his actions “unchristian.” But in reality, Trump was fulfilling the role God ordained for civil leaders.

The Bible affirms the existence of nations, borders, and the rule of law. Genesis 18 tells us that God intended for Abraham’s descendants to become a great nation. Deuteronomy 32:8 states that God “apportioned the nations” and “fixed the boundaries of the peoples.” Even the story of Babel in Genesis 11demonstrates that God divided humanity into nations, preventing unchecked global unity under a singular power. Nations — and by extension, borders — are part of God’s divine order.

Continued below.
I am for a strong border, but I feel like deportation should be on a case-by-case basis. Unfortunately, with the amount of illegal immigration we've had, that may not even be possible.
 
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This statement has theological issues.
Didn't God give man dominion over the earth, including governing?
The Conquest of Canaan.
This doesn't count because it was the quest for the promised land. Did Jesus advise his disciples to do anything outside Roman laws? We know the disciples broke religious laws.

If the Pharasis asked Jesus, "Would Jesus deport illegal immigrants?" wouldn't the answer still be about Caesar or Roman rules if they had immigration laws? My guess Jesus would not be a hypocrite and say yes.
 
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...The initial post and my post are about immigration to the US, not the UK. Your source does not apply as it's only about the UK...
Most countries including the USA and Britain have had their share of useless politicians over the years, for example-

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But thank God Trump is back in the White House to set things right..:)

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So I was thinking ... What about those who are illegal everywhere? Wouldn't Jesus be drawn to them specifically?
What would Jesus think of a nation that would cast such people out?
Hitler wanted to illegally invade Britain - "The target marker flares looked quite pretty floating slowly down in the night sky" my late mother told me about the1940 Luftwaffe bomber raid on Leicester (England) when she was 18. (Luckily she and her family survived without a scratch, but others weren't so lucky.)
My point is that illegal nonchristian invaders- whether they're nazis or immigrants- shouldn't be welcomed-
"..many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh,
have gone out into the world...do not take them into your house or welcome them.
Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work" (2 John 1:7-11)

Thank God the nations joined together to settle Adolf's hash-

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With the national conversation focused on immigration, Americans are being forced to choose between compassion and security. But this is a false dichotomy.

As Christians, we must reject the misleading framework that pits Christian love against national identity. Biblically speaking, this is not an either-or scenario. What if Scripture affirms both national sovereignty and moral responsibility? When President Trump enforced immigration laws, critics labeled his actions “unchristian.” But in reality, Trump was fulfilling the role God ordained for civil leaders.

The Bible affirms the existence of nations, borders, and the rule of law. Genesis 18 tells us that God intended for Abraham’s descendants to become a great nation. Deuteronomy 32:8 states that God “apportioned the nations” and “fixed the boundaries of the peoples.” Even the story of Babel in Genesis 11demonstrates that God divided humanity into nations, preventing unchecked global unity under a singular power. Nations — and by extension, borders — are part of God’s divine order.

Continued below.

Would Jesus deport illegal immigrants? He might. But I also think He'd want to see better efforts by Christians to socially aid those immigrants who come into the U.S. legally.

At the same time, Jesus might also support the bombing of drug cartels, and other forms of organized crime.
 
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Ah yes, one of Trump's famous rants. Republicans weren't particularly keen on that idea.

Let's remember. Your claim was that "most immigrants nowadays are not Christians." And let's remember the context of this discussion is illegal immigrants. So...

There are 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States. Data from 2024, paints the following picture of their country of origin:
  1. Mexico - 5,203,000
  2. Guatemala - 780,000
  3. El Salvador - 751,000
  4. Honduras - 564,000
  5. India - 400,000
  6. Philippines - 309,000
  7. Venezuela - 251,000
  8. China - 241,000
  9. Colombia - 201,000
  10. Brazil - 195,000
  11. Rest of the World - 2,322,000
Given the demographics of these countries, your claim is utterly implausible.
Like you say, they're ILLEGAL immigrants, so how can they be Christians if they do illegal things?:p
 
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Like you say, they're ILLEGAL immigrants, so how can they be Christians if they do illegal things?:p
I think the polices of the previous administrations invited them and they came. It was the last administration that "sinned."
 
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As I understand Scoutship, he starts with the premise that breaking the law (man's laws) is breaking God's laws (sin). I don't share that opinion because it's untenable.
Even if many of man's laws are built upon the foundation of the 10 C's, the culture of man operates on principles opposite to that of the Kingdom, yes.
 
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As I understand Scoutship, he starts with the premise that breaking the law (man's laws) is breaking God's laws (sin). I don't share that opinion because it's untenable.
You can roll out the red carpet for scrounging nonchristian immigrants if you like mate, but include me out..;)
"..many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh have gone out into the world...
do not take them into your house or welcome them.

Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work" (2 John 1:7-11)
 
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