Would Jesus deport illegal immigrants?

[SavedByGrace3]

Ok... 2 billion people show up in Texas.
What do you do?

 

[Jermayn]

With the national conversation focused on immigration, Americans are being forced to choose between compassion and security. But this is a false dichotomy.

As Christians, we must reject the misleading framework that pits Christian love against national identity. Biblically speaking, this is not an either-or scenario. What if Scripture affirms both national sovereignty and moral responsibility? When President Trump enforced immigration laws, critics labeled his actions “unchristian.” But in reality, Trump was fulfilling the role God ordained for civil leaders.

The Bible affirms the existence of nations, borders, and the rule of law. Genesis 18 tells us that God intended for Abraham’s descendants to become a great nation. Deuteronomy 32:8 states that God “apportioned the nations” and “fixed the boundaries of the peoples.” Even the story of Babel in Genesis 11demonstrates that God divided humanity into nations, preventing unchecked global unity under a singular power. Nations — and by extension, borders — are part of God’s divine order.

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Would Jesus deport illegal immigrants?

With the national conversation focused on immigration, Americans are being forced to choose between compassion and security But this is a false dichotomy

www.christianpost.com

I am for a strong border, but I feel like deportation should be on a case-by-case basis. Unfortunately, with the amount of illegal immigration we've had, that may not even be possible.

 

[sanderabeer]

I've never seen a copy of the Christian Post and don't care two hoots what they say.

The initial post which started this thread is a literally quote from an opinion piece in the Christian Post, a conservative American Christian media outlet. It specifically addresses the deportation of immigrants in the US.

The article which I reference is a news article from the same source. It deals with immigrants in the US who are likely to be impacted by current deportation policies. It is based on a study conducted by a Christian group which shows that 80% of those potentially impacted identify as Christian.

As for sources, it's common knowledge that immigrants come to scrounge off us, one of their tricks is to pretend to be Christians so the misguided do-gooders will roll out the red carpet for them..-

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The initial post and my post are about immigration to the US, not the UK. Your source does not apply as it's only about the UK.

 

[sanderabeer]

Ok... 2 billion people show up in Texas.
What do you do?

Wake up from the dream.

 

[Laodicean60]

This statement has theological issues.

Didn't God give man dominion over the earth, including governing?

The Conquest of Canaan.

This doesn't count because it was the quest for the promised land. Did Jesus advise his disciples to do anything outside Roman laws? We know the disciples broke religious laws.

If the Pharasis asked Jesus, "Would Jesus deport illegal immigrants?" wouldn't the answer still be about Caesar or Roman rules if they had immigration laws? My guess Jesus would not be a hypocrite and say yes.

 

[Scoutship]

...The initial post and my post are about immigration to the US, not the UK. Your source does not apply as it's only about the UK...

Most countries including the USA and Britain have had their share of useless politicians over the years, for example-

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But thank God Trump is back in the White House to set things right..

 

[Scoutship]

So I was thinking ... What about those who are illegal everywhere? Wouldn't Jesus be drawn to them specifically?
What would Jesus think of a nation that would cast such people out?

Hitler wanted to illegally invade Britain - "The target marker flares looked quite pretty floating slowly down in the night sky" my late mother told me about the1940 Luftwaffe bomber raid on Leicester (England) when she was 18. (Luckily she and her family survived without a scratch, but others weren't so lucky.)
My point is that illegal nonchristian invaders- whether they're nazis or immigrants- shouldn't be welcomed-
"..many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh,
have gone out into the world...do not take them into your house or welcome them.
Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work" (2 John 1:7-11)

Thank God the nations joined together to settle Adolf's hash-

 

[sanderabeer]

Didn't God give man dominion over the earth, including governing?

You stated, "God followed the laws of man or their desires." What does the word follow mean? According to Merriam-Webster, it means:

3 a : to be or act in accordance with
follow directions

If God followed the laws of man or their desires, this means he acts in accordance with the laws of man or their desires. This idea is theologically fraught. Why?

Imagine a country where a segment of the population is legally murdered because they are deemed to be subhuman. Should we kill these people as Christians? Would Jesus? Should we support this? Would Jesus? The answer is obviously no.

And this highlights the logical inconsistency of the idea posed by the statement. It's not good theology.

This doesn't count because it was the quest for the promised land.

I expected such a response. Why doesn't it count? Or, rather, why is this not special pleading?

Did Jesus advise his disciples to do anything outside Roman laws? We know the disciples broke religious laws.

If the Pharasis asked Jesus, "Would Jesus deport illegal immigrants?" wouldn't the answer still be about Caesar or Roman rules if they had immigration laws? My guess Jesus would not be a hypocrite and say yes.

How do you establish this idea biblically though? What biblical principles are you relying on? What textual evidence is there to support this claim?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

With the national conversation focused on immigration, Americans are being forced to choose between compassion and security. But this is a false dichotomy.

As Christians, we must reject the misleading framework that pits Christian love against national identity. Biblically speaking, this is not an either-or scenario. What if Scripture affirms both national sovereignty and moral responsibility? When President Trump enforced immigration laws, critics labeled his actions “unchristian.” But in reality, Trump was fulfilling the role God ordained for civil leaders.

The Bible affirms the existence of nations, borders, and the rule of law. Genesis 18 tells us that God intended for Abraham’s descendants to become a great nation. Deuteronomy 32:8 states that God “apportioned the nations” and “fixed the boundaries of the peoples.” Even the story of Babel in Genesis 11demonstrates that God divided humanity into nations, preventing unchecked global unity under a singular power. Nations — and by extension, borders — are part of God’s divine order.

Continued below.

Would Jesus deport illegal immigrants?

With the national conversation focused on immigration, Americans are being forced to choose between compassion and security But this is a false dichotomy

www.christianpost.com

Would Jesus deport illegal immigrants? He might. But I also think He'd want to see better efforts by Christians to socially aid those immigrants who come into the U.S. legally.

At the same time, Jesus might also support the bombing of drug cartels, and other forms of organized crime.

 

[sanderabeer]

But thank God Trump is back in the White House to set things right..

Ah yes, one of Trump's famous rants. Republicans weren't particularly keen on that idea.

Let's remember. Your claim was that "most immigrants nowadays are not Christians." And let's remember the context of this discussion is illegal immigrants. So...

There are 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States. Data from 2024, paints the following picture of their country of origin:

1. Mexico - 5,203,000
2. Guatemala - 780,000
3. El Salvador - 751,000
4. Honduras - 564,000
5. India - 400,000
6. Philippines - 309,000
7. Venezuela - 251,000
8. China - 241,000
9. Colombia - 201,000
10. Brazil - 195,000
11. Rest of the World - 2,322,000

Given the demographics of these countries, your claim is utterly implausible.

 

[Scoutship]

Ah yes, one of Trump's famous rants. Republicans weren't particularly keen on that idea.

Let's remember. Your claim was that "most immigrants nowadays are not Christians." And let's remember the context of this discussion is illegal immigrants. So...

There are 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States. Data from 2024, paints the following picture of their country of origin:

1. Mexico - 5,203,000
2. Guatemala - 780,000
3. El Salvador - 751,000
4. Honduras - 564,000
5. India - 400,000
6. Philippines - 309,000
7. Venezuela - 251,000
8. China - 241,000
9. Colombia - 201,000
10. Brazil - 195,000
11. Rest of the World - 2,322,000

Given the demographics of these countries, your claim is utterly implausible.

Like you say, they're ILLEGAL immigrants, so how can they be Christians if they do illegal things?

 

[timothyu]

Like you say, they're ILLEGAL immigrants, so how can they be Christians if they do illegal things?

One.. they are helping each other. Two... are they breaking God's laws?

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Like you say, they're ILLEGAL immigrants, so how can they be Christians if they do illegal things?

I think the polices of the previous administrations invited them and they came. It was the last administration that "sinned."

 

[sanderabeer]

Like you say, they're ILLEGAL immigrants, so how can they be Christians if they do illegal things?

Philippians 3:12.

 

[sanderabeer]

One.. they are helping each other. Two... are they breaking God's laws?

As I understand Scoutship, he starts with the premise that breaking the law (man's laws) is breaking God's laws (sin). I don't share that opinion because it's untenable.

 

[timothyu]

As I understand Scoutship, he starts with the premise that breaking the law (man's laws) is breaking God's laws (sin). I don't share that opinion because it's untenable.

Even if many of man's laws are built upon the foundation of the 10 C's, the culture of man operates on principles opposite to that of the Kingdom, yes.

 

[Scoutship]

As I understand Scoutship, he starts with the premise that breaking the law (man's laws) is breaking God's laws (sin). I don't share that opinion because it's untenable.

You can roll out the red carpet for scrounging nonchristian immigrants if you like mate, but include me out..
"..many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh have gone out into the world...
do not take them into your house or welcome them.
Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work" (2 John 1:7-11)

 

[timothyu]

You can roll out the red carpet for scrounging nonchristian immigrants if you like mate, but include me out..

America is only now in the past decade or two experiencing what the UK has since WWII and before. Give them a chance to catch up, even to the point any mention of today's situation may merit you jail time.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

You can roll out the red carpet for scrounging nonchristian immigrants if you like mate, but include me out..
"..many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh have gone out into the world...
do not take them into your house or welcome them.
Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work" (2 John 1:7-11)

Seeing as you are not here, that is an empty exclusion.

 

[Laodicean60]

If God followed the laws of man or their desires, this means he acts in accordance with the laws of man or their desires. This idea is theologically fraught. Why?

Imagine a country where a segment of the population is legally murdered

No, Jesus would not murder. His word is a law unto himself. Jesus followed Roman tax law, no? So you think Jesus was the type to follow some Roman laws and not others besides His teachings?

How do you establish this idea biblically though? What biblical principles are you relying on? What textual evidence is there to support this claim?

Answer this first: "Did Jesus advise his disciples to do anything outside Roman laws? We know the disciples broke religious laws" from your reading of the Bible.

This doesn't count because it was the quest for the promised land.

I expected such a response.

So tell me why, instead of answering questions with question.