World Flood???

[d taylor]

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[dóxatotheó]

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that is absolutely not a good argument how you get whole earth from a word? me and you both hold that it was a special flood like any other which is true there is was no flood ever that covered mountains yk just because the word is a different word doesnt mean we create a conclusion that it was a global flood that is a literal add to the text

 

[dóxatotheó]

6k since mankind on earth yea i can see that.

huh a day is like a thousand years wow now that is a old Adam
339,450,000

yeah the anno mundi is something you should check out if you believe the stories of genesis is literal it be something that will help you out in hard situations in discussions of course i provided sources and a long explanation on why i believe regional flood and not global and i responded to everyones premises I do believe everyones responses was great and i accepr rhem as great opinions on the Noah story i have an opinion you guys do aswell i love discussing these type of stories

 

[d taylor]

that is absolutely not a good argument how you get whole earth from a word? me and you both hold that it was a special flood like any other which is true there is was no flood ever that covered mountains yk just because the word is a different word doesnt mean we create a conclusion that it was a global flood that is a literal add to the text

It was never a global flood, the flood cover all of the earth.

 

[dóxatotheó]

It was never a global flood, the flood cover all of the earth.

do yk thats what global flood means? and im not advocating that it was the entire earth i believe recent archaeology proves that

 

[renniks]

that is absolutely not a good argument how you get whole earth from a word?

Where else would you get it? From being there?

 

[dóxatotheó]

Where else would you get it? From being there?

what i been saying for the entire time that it was a flood like any other that covered mountains in Mesopotamia which was a flood that will never happened the flood was greater than any flood ever recorded and the earth was still in pangea so all organisms in that definitive area most definitely died in that region because all flesh was established in that region

 

[d taylor]

do yk thats what global flood means? and im not advocating that it was the entire earth i believe recent archaeology proves that

Until you get all this science nonsense out of your thinking you will never know and understand God's creation.

You will be stuck with sciences creation which in the end amounts to nothing but a lie. But you are not the only one, many christian people are in the same boat with you.

 

[dóxatotheó]

Until you get all this science nonsense out of your thinking you will never know and understand God's creation.

You will be stuck with sciences creation which in the end amounts to nothing but a lie. But you are not the only one, many christian people are in the same boat with you.

firstly stop doing ad homs because i dont agree with your views secondly i dont put science over God that literally makes 0 sense because these are my interpretations of Gods word not science word just because a person dont agree with your views and defends theres does not mean they follow something over God, you might aswell not discuss with any other people and hold to your views because being heterodox is not a good look and secondly idc if other chirstians like science i dont believe this cuz science i believe it because its my views on Genesis and secondly of course science doesnt matter to God it doesnt matter to me either, im Just proving science in the bible while you prove unprovable things with your views that you clearly cant defend but rather attack the opposer.

 

[Job 33:6]

Couldn't we prove that a worldwide flood occurred from the Bible? What if the Bible says that a worldwide flood occurred? What if the idea of only a local flood turns out to contradict Scripture?

I like this response.

I think that at the end of the day, if we take this approach, then we may be left with a true contradiction between a literal interpretation of scripture and observations of geology.

In which case, we would have to ask what takes priority between the two, concepts and scripture that we read and we think about and interpret, versus concepts that we observe and test and then interpret.

I would say that the latter is a better path to take, given that concepts of geology are observable.

For example the OP mentioned that there were dinosaur nests with eggs in them in the middle of the geologic column. And this is a concept that we can observe. In which case we are left with this question of how a dinosaur would construct a nest and lay eggs in the middle of this catastrophic flood (keep in mind that the nest wouldn't have been built before the flood because the nest is found vertically in the middle of the geologic column). Therefore we might interpret that such a flood (one responsible for depositing layers of the earth in a single year or so) therefore could not have happened.

Whereas the prior position relies moreso on what we can simply imagine. We can imagine that water covered the tallest mountains around the planet. But there's nothing beyond what we think about after reading scripture. There isn't really anything that we can see that affirms that, and it is limited to our mind and what we imagine it to be without anything tangible to really work with.

And what the implications are for scripture, if we conclude that the flood was not global, can of course be challenging for us. But this is a challenge that we rightfully must accept none the less. We can't just ignore difficult situations just because they're hard to accept.

 

[renniks]

what i been saying for the entire time that it was a flood like any other that covered mountains in Mesopotamia which was a flood that will never happened the flood was greater than any flood ever recorded and the earth was still in pangea so all organisms in that definitive area most definitely died in that region because all flesh was established in that region

So you ignore what scripture says in favor of your interpretation?

 

[Job 33:6]

It is more important to discover why the story of the flood was placed in the bible.....as opposed to whether or not it really happened or if it were local or global. Then, and only then, can we become doers of the word, and not hearers only.

Could you expand more on this post?

 

[dóxatotheó]

So you ignore what scripture says in favor of your interpretation?

i dont ignore scripture i literally explained every scripture presented to me and your interpretation doesnt mean its universal because my belief is quite popular

 

[renniks]

i dont ignore scripture i literally explained every scripture presented to me and your interpretation doesnt mean its universal because my belief is quite popular

I didn't see any explanation, only claims. And how popular a belief is, isn't a reason to accept it. Quite often, just the opposite.

 

[dóxatotheó]

I didn't see any explanation, only claims. And how popular a belief is, isn't a reason to accept it. Quite often, just the opposite.

Literalism of Genesis is way more popular than my belief secondly these arent claims these are explanations you made claims that wasnt substantiated like i said from the beginning if you believe this prove it

 

[renniks]

Literalism of Genesis is way more popular than my belief secondly these arent claims these are explanations you made claims that wasnt substantiated like i said from the beginning if you believe this prove it

I don't have to prove anything. You haven't demonstrated your claims have any basis in reality. You are the one trying to prove that the Bible says one thing but means another.

 

[dóxatotheó]

I don't have to prove anything. You haven't demonstrated your claims have any basis in reality. You are the one trying to prove that the Bible says one thing but means another.

and you yet proved me wrong thats blind faith dawg and a fallacy and how can one demostrate a interpretation you cant demostrate yours so i dont think you should say that

 

[dóxatotheó]

There are earlier flood legends of God saving a hero from a flood by instructing him to build a large boat to rescue his family and livestock from a coming flood. These stories are about Atrahasis and Gilgamesh. They may be Mesopotamian flood stories as the Tigris River and Euphrates River flooded after snow melted in the mountains during the spring. Before modern dam building, floods sometimes inundated square miles of alluvial plain.

The Indus River Valley to the east also flooded with tropical storms from the Indian Ocean during typhoon/hurricane season.

interesting may i ask what does this address?

 

[Paul4JC]

Sure there are different views...

Noah's Flood and Catastrophic Plate Tectonics (from Pangea to Today)

 

[dóxatotheó]

Sure there are different views...

Noah's Flood and Catastrophic Plate Tectonics (from Pangea to Today)

alot of views on this