World Flood???

[dóxatotheó]

what would a world look like before the flood with only seas. it appears the above continents would of been mountains, there are old civilization under the ocean waters.
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do you want an nswer because this can be answered very easily

 

[BeyondET]

do you want an nswer because this can be answered very easily

Ok what's your answer

 

[dóxatotheó]

what would a world look like before the flood with only seas. it appears the above continents would of been mountains, there are old civilization under the ocean waters.
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Over vast periods of time, our primitive ocean formed. Water remained a gas until the Earth cooled below 212 degrees Fahrenheit. At this time, about 3.8 billion years ago, the water condensed into rain which filled the basins that we now know as our world ocean.

The ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth to the atmosphere surrounding the cooling planet.
After the Earth's surface had cooled to a temperature below the boiling point of water, rain began to fall—and continued to fall for centuries. As the water drained into the great hollows in the Earth's surface, the primeval ocean came into existence. The forces of gravity prevented the water from leaving the planet.
scientists began comparing Earth’s water with the water in carbonaceous chondrites. The key is hydrogen, the most abundant element in the universe. Hydrogen has two isotopes—normal hydrogen, with a mass of one, and deuterium or “heavy hydrogen,” with a mass of two. The ratio of these isotopes differs in different parts of the solar system. The sun is made mostly of normal hydrogen. But comets, made mostly of rock and ice, formed much farther from the sun and are richer in deuterium. The hydrogen in Earth’s water is somewhere in between the sun and comets.
Measurements of hydrogen isotopes in carbonaceous chondrites matched very well with Earth’s water. That gave credence to the idea that Earth’s water came from chondrites. But when did this occur? The problem was that chondrites could have brought in water early, slamming into the growing planet, or late, pelting Earth after it formed. To know, scientists needed to find water in rocks that formed very early on, in the same region and time as Earth.
A promising source was a type of rock called eucrites. These are pieces of the asteroid Vesta that have fallen to Earth in the form of meteorites.
“Vesta completely froze and locked up about 14 million years after the start of the solar system, so it got all its water before then,” Sarafian said. “At the time, the Earth was one-quarter to one-half its size and still growing.”

Water is stored in various reservoirs as it moves through this cycle. The largest, by far, is the oceans, accounting for 97% of the volume (Figure 5.2.2). Of course, that water is salty. The remaining 3% is fresh water. Two-thirds of our fresh water is stored in the ground and one-third is stored in ice. The remaining fresh water — about 0.03% of the total — is stored in lakes, streams, vegetation, and the atmosphere.

the proportion of Earth’s water that is in the atmosphere is tiny, the actual volume is huge. At any given time, there is the equivalent of approximately 13,000 km3 of water in the air in the form of water vapor and water droplets in clouds. Water is evaporated from the oceans, vegetation, and lakes at a rate of 1,580 km3 per day, and just about exactly the same volume falls as rain and snow every day, over both the oceans and land. The precipitation that falls on land goes back to the ocean in the form of stream flow (117 km3/day) and groundwater flow (6 km3/day).
So thats the origin of the Oceans and why we have large amounts of it and btw if the ocean happened cause the flood explain why God wold dry up Mesopotamia but not the whole worlds water. Also what civilizations of ancient human species from billions or thousands of years ago was discovered in the Ocean provide sources. Also how is this belief coherent with Pangaea
the mass Earthquakes. Also ever heard of fossils?
Sources for this:
5.2 Origin of the Oceans – Introduction to Oceanography
What Is Pangaea? Theory and Facts About the Supercontinent | Live Science
https://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/historical.html
The Geological Society
Why do we have an ocean?.
How Did Earth Get Its Ocean?

 

[dóxatotheó]

As is to 'why' the world was flooded and who were the Nephilim.

whole world no, world of all creation yes and tey was the nephilim

 

[Job 33:6]

Over vast periods of time, our primitive ocean formed. Water remained a gas until the Earth cooled below 212 degrees Fahrenheit. At this time, about 3.8 billion years ago, the water condensed into rain which filled the basins that we now know as our world ocean. View attachment 299860
The ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth to the atmosphere surrounding the cooling planet.
After the Earth's surface had cooled to a temperature below the boiling point of water, rain began to fall—and continued to fall for centuries. As the water drained into the great hollows in the Earth's surface, the primeval ocean came into existence. The forces of gravity prevented the water from leaving the planet.
scientists began comparing Earth’s water with the water in carbonaceous chondrites. The key is hydrogen, the most abundant element in the universe. Hydrogen has two isotopes—normal hydrogen, with a mass of one, and deuterium or “heavy hydrogen,” with a mass of two. The ratio of these isotopes differs in different parts of the solar system. The sun is made mostly of normal hydrogen. But comets, made mostly of rock and ice, formed much farther from the sun and are richer in deuterium. The hydrogen in Earth’s water is somewhere in between the sun and comets.
Measurements of hydrogen isotopes in carbonaceous chondrites matched very well with Earth’s water. That gave credence to the idea that Earth’s water came from chondrites. But when did this occur? The problem was that chondrites could have brought in water early, slamming into the growing planet, or late, pelting Earth after it formed. To know, scientists needed to find water in rocks that formed very early on, in the same region and time as Earth.
A promising source was a type of rock called eucrites. These are pieces of the asteroid Vesta that have fallen to Earth in the form of meteorites.
“Vesta completely froze and locked up about 14 million years after the start of the solar system, so it got all its water before then,” Sarafian said. “At the time, the Earth was one-quarter to one-half its size and still growing.”
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Water is stored in various reservoirs as it moves through this cycle. The largest, by far, is the oceans, accounting for 97% of the volume (Figure 5.2.2). Of course, that water is salty. The remaining 3% is fresh water. Two-thirds of our fresh water is stored in the ground and one-third is stored in ice. The remaining fresh water — about 0.03% of the total — is stored in lakes, streams, vegetation, and the atmosphere.
View attachment 299862
the proportion of Earth’s water that is in the atmosphere is tiny, the actual volume is huge. At any given time, there is the equivalent of approximately 13,000 km3 of water in the air in the form of water vapor and water droplets in clouds. Water is evaporated from the oceans, vegetation, and lakes at a rate of 1,580 km3 per day, and just about exactly the same volume falls as rain and snow every day, over both the oceans and land. The precipitation that falls on land goes back to the ocean in the form of stream flow (117 km3/day) and groundwater flow (6 km3/day).
So thats the origin of the Oceans and why we have large amounts of it and btw if the ocean happened cause the flood explain why God wold dry up Mesopotamia but not the whole worlds water. Also what civilizations of ancient human species from billions or thousands of years ago was discovered in the Ocean provide sources. Also how is this belief coherent with Pangaea
the mass Earthquakes. Also ever heard of fossils?
Sources for this:
5.2 Origin of the Oceans – Introduction to Oceanography
What Is Pangaea? Theory and Facts About the Supercontinent | Live Science
https://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/historical.html
The Geological Society
Why do we have an ocean?.
How Did Earth Get Its Ocean?

A much more simple case can be made against the idea of oceans forming 6,000 years ago by simply noting that prehistoric riverbeds and oceanic trans and regressive sequences are found intermittently, separated by terrestrial strata, all throughout the geologic column and all around the world.

For people who might have trouble understanding the above.

Which is to say that if a bed of rock has foot tracks through it or complex burrow networks if terrestrial animals, That is probably safe to say that there wasn't an ocean in that location in the past. So if we have layers of rock throughout the entire geologic column that is terrestrial in nature, then we know that this land wasn't underwater in the past. And likewise we know where there were prehistoric oceans in the past because we have things like ripple marks and fossilized coral reefs and prehistoric river beds and alluvial fans etc.

So we know where there was and was not water in the past. Just like we can look at Mars and investigate where there was and was not water on Mars just the same.

And so we know that they're never really was a time in which the continents were positioned as depicted in that photograph above, where oceans were not simultaneously present. It's just a doctorate picture of a planet without oceans, but evidence suggests that such a world never existed.

 

[BeyondET]

Over vast periods of time, our primitive ocean formed. Water remained a gas until the Earth cooled below 212 degrees Fahrenheit. At this time, about 3.8 billion years ago, the water condensed into rain which filled the basins that we now know as our world ocean. View attachment 299860
The ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth to the atmosphere surrounding the cooling planet.
After the Earth's surface had cooled to a temperature below the boiling point of water, rain began to fall—and continued to fall for centuries. As the water drained into the great hollows in the Earth's surface, the primeval ocean came into existence. The forces of gravity prevented the water from leaving the planet.
scientists began comparing Earth’s water with the water in carbonaceous chondrites. The key is hydrogen, the most abundant element in the universe. Hydrogen has two isotopes—normal hydrogen, with a mass of one, and deuterium or “heavy hydrogen,” with a mass of two. The ratio of these isotopes differs in different parts of the solar system. The sun is made mostly of normal hydrogen. But comets, made mostly of rock and ice, formed much farther from the sun and are richer in deuterium. The hydrogen in Earth’s water is somewhere in between the sun and comets.
Measurements of hydrogen isotopes in carbonaceous chondrites matched very well with Earth’s water. That gave credence to the idea that Earth’s water came from chondrites. But when did this occur? The problem was that chondrites could have brought in water early, slamming into the growing planet, or late, pelting Earth after it formed. To know, scientists needed to find water in rocks that formed very early on, in the same region and time as Earth.
A promising source was a type of rock called eucrites. These are pieces of the asteroid Vesta that have fallen to Earth in the form of meteorites.
“Vesta completely froze and locked up about 14 million years after the start of the solar system, so it got all its water before then,” Sarafian said. “At the time, the Earth was one-quarter to one-half its size and still growing.”
View attachment 299861
Water is stored in various reservoirs as it moves through this cycle. The largest, by far, is the oceans, accounting for 97% of the volume (Figure 5.2.2). Of course, that water is salty. The remaining 3% is fresh water. Two-thirds of our fresh water is stored in the ground and one-third is stored in ice. The remaining fresh water — about 0.03% of the total — is stored in lakes, streams, vegetation, and the atmosphere.
View attachment 299862
the proportion of Earth’s water that is in the atmosphere is tiny, the actual volume is huge. At any given time, there is the equivalent of approximately 13,000 km3 of water in the air in the form of water vapor and water droplets in clouds. Water is evaporated from the oceans, vegetation, and lakes at a rate of 1,580 km3 per day, and just about exactly the same volume falls as rain and snow every day, over both the oceans and land. The precipitation that falls on land goes back to the ocean in the form of stream flow (117 km3/day) and groundwater flow (6 km3/day).
So thats the origin of the Oceans and why we have large amounts of it and btw if the ocean happened cause the flood explain why God wold dry up Mesopotamia but not the whole worlds water. Also what civilizations of ancient human species from billions or thousands of years ago was discovered in the Ocean provide sources. Also how is this belief coherent with Pangaea
the mass Earthquakes. Also ever heard of fossils?
Sources for this:
5.2 Origin of the Oceans – Introduction to Oceanography
What Is Pangaea? Theory and Facts About the Supercontinent | Live Science
https://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/dynamic/historical.html
The Geological Society
Why do we have an ocean?.
How Did Earth Get Its Ocean?

interesting write up, some of it seems theory though

at today's levels water still isn't very much all the water on earth is just a puddle compared to earth. there are ancient ruins all over the earth under the oceans.

 

[dóxatotheó]

interesting write up, some of it seems theory though

at today's levels water still isn't very much all the water on earth is just a puddle compared to earth. there are ancient ruins all over the earth under the oceans.
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the ancient ruins in the sea isnt proof of a mass flood everyone knows the ruins under the ocean sinked at least estimately 20,000 years ago the Earths gas is way before that even making that argument is scientifically impossible secondly this isnt just a theory scientific theories have been proven to a ground of origination just saying it sounds like a theory is delusion you need to read the sources i put before claiming its merely a theory also the amount of sea water formation is cause hydrogen and gas and the mass of rain like i said if it was cause of God he would have evaporated the ocean water aswell cause Pangaea and the mass earthquakes shown through tectonic plates face it the earths ocean only makes contradiction not proof cause the Earth Continents wasnt seperated before the oceans and proof shown that hydrogen and gas and gravity caused the oceans all coherent through the thousands of years of our planets evolution(not darwinism evolution). And if this is just theory disprove it cause i provided proof and sources for both my assertions

 

[dóxatotheó]

A much more simple case can be made against the idea of oceans forming 6,000 years ago by simply noting that prehistoric riverbeds and oceanic trans and regressive sequences are found intermittently, separated by terrestrial strata, all throughout the geologic column and all around the world.

For people who might have trouble understanding the above.

Which is to say that if a bed of rock has foot tracks through it or complex burrow networks if terrestrial animals, That is probably safe to say that there wasn't an ocean in that location in the past. So if we have layers of rock throughout the entire geologic column that is terrestrial in nature, then we know that this land wasn't underwater in the past. And likewise we know where there were prehistoric oceans in the past because we have things like ripple marks and fossilized coral reefs and prehistoric river beds and alluvial fans etc.

So we know where there was and was not water in the past. Just like we can look at Mars and investigate where there was and was not water on Mars just the same.

And so we know that they're never really was a time in which the continents were positioned as depicted in that photograph above, where oceans were not simultaneously present. It's just a doctorate picture of a planet without oceans, but evidence suggests that such a world never existed.

correction i put multiple sources that holds to my position from geology and proven scientific theory

 

[BeyondET]

the ancient ruins in the sea isnt proof of a mass flood everyone knows the ruins under the ocean sinked at least estimately 20,000 years ago the Earths gas is way before that even making that argument is scientifically impossible secondly this isnt just a theory scientific theories have been proven to a ground of origination just saying it sounds like a theory is delusion you need to read the sources i put before claiming its merely a theory also the amount of sea water formation is cause hydrogen and gas and the mass of rain like i said if it was cause of God he would have evaporated the ocean water aswell cause Pangaea and the mass earthquakes shown through tectonic plates face it the earths ocean only makes contradiction not proof cause the Earth Continents wasnt seperated before the oceans and proof shown that hydrogen and gas and gravity caused the oceans all coherent through the thousands of years of our planets evolution(not darwinism evolution). And if this is just theory disprove it cause i provided proof and sources for both my assertions

not according to the links, providing links to theories isn't proof.

Why do we have an ocean?
According to this theory, the ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth to the atmosphere surrounding the cooling planet.

 

[Ligurian]

(Genesis 6–9) describes a worldwide flood (the Noachian Flood) covering even the highest
mountains of the earth and the construction of a huge boat

Noah’s Ark

Where did flood-plain-Babylon get all that timber?

 

[Job 33:6]

not according to the links, providing links to theories isn't proof.

Why do we have an ocean?
According to this theory, the ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth to the atmosphere surrounding the cooling planet.

There wasn't ever a time in which the Atlantic had no water. We know this because there are things like pillow basalts and basaltic deposits along the bottom of the ocean that formed as the continents spread.

We also have marine deposits of the Mesozoic and elsewhere throughout the geologic column.

I think doxatotheo simply overcomplicated the topic.

 

[Ligurian]

not according to the links, providing links to theories isn't proof.

Why do we have an ocean?
According to this theory, the ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth to the atmosphere surrounding the cooling planet.

God wanted seas

Genesis1:10 And God called the dry land Earth, and the gatherings of the waters He called Seas, and God saw that it was good.

To divide the peoples

"In the International Standard Biblical Encyclopedia reference is made to a Babylonian geographic fragment (80-6-17, 504) which has a series of ideographs tentatively read out as Pulukku, perhaps a modified form of Peleg. This is followed by the words "Sha ebirti," which could either signify "Pulukku who was of Eber," or it could be a composite phrase "Pulukku-of-the-Crossing." Conceivably a settlement of Pelegites was established on the river at a fordable point, this river afterwards receiving the name Hebrus. Whatever the truth of the matter, the word "Peleg" seems somehow to have come down to us also through Greek in the form "pelagos," meaning "sea." If there is a real connection this might suggest a further idea, namely, that the "division" took place when men began to migrate for the first time by water. The phrase "the earth was divided" would be interpreted to mean "the peoples of the earth were divided," i.e., by water."
--Custance, A Study of the Names of Genesis, The Doorway Papers
Noah (Vol.1) - Pt.II, CH.4

 

[Ligurian]

the thing i am advocating for is regional flood which can be accepted biblically and scientifically with pangea and what God first put life upon

Agreed. Which means, In which region did the Biblical flood happen? becomes the question.

 

[Job 33:6]

Why do we have an ocean?
the ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth to the atmosphere surrounding the cooling planet.

The ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth
-doxatotheo

You've also simply repeated his words.

 

[dóxatotheó]

Agreed. Which means, In which region did the Biblical flood happen? becomes the question.

area of all life forms which was straining from Mesopotamia and all of africa all continents were together so we can hold this belief

 

[dóxatotheó]

not according to the links, providing links to theories isn't proof.

Why do we have an ocean?
According to this theory, the ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth to the atmosphere surrounding the cooling planet.

scientific theories are not regular theories what i provided was proof for it you seem to be appealing to ignorance

 

[dóxatotheó]

Noah’s Ark

Where did flood-plain-Babylon get all that timber?

expand wat you mean

 

[BeyondET]

The ocean formed from the escape of water vapor and other gases from the molten rocks of the Earth
-doxatotheo

You've also simply repeated his words.

i quoted he words to show what he said about theory, and you left out those words and why did you do that you didn't like this below.

According to this theory

 

[BeyondET]

There wasn't ever a time in which the Atlantic had no water. We know this because there are things like pillow basalts and basaltic deposits along the bottom of the ocean that formed as the continents spread.

We also have marine deposits of the Mesozoic and elsewhere throughout the geologic column.

I think doxatotheo simply overcomplicated the topic.

i never said the Atlantic ocean had no water nor the photo show a Atlantic completely dried up.

its a good theory i agree certainly not proof no man has proof of something that was before man that is ignorance.

 

[BeyondET]

scientific theories are not regular theories what i provided was proof for it you seem to be appealing to ignorance

theory is theory rather scientific or not, the write up was good but not 100% proof, no man was there and took notes,photos. providing good theories is not proof you seem to be appealing to ignorance.